[Gautam Gupta]

Sorry for that ashfame, I didn’t mean to hurt you.

Documentation is great, I would like it to be page with list of contents at the beginning. And, I think plugin section still needs more work to be done.

Lastly, design needs some improvements and forum’s colour sceheme doesn’t match the whole site.

[Ben L.]

Could you add bbBlu? http://nightgunner5.is-a-geek.net:1337/bbpress/my-templates/bbblu.zip

[chrishajer]

Please switch the search over. We mentioned that here soon after WordPress switched.

https://bbpress.org/forums/tags/sphinx

[Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)]

@Kevin

Thanks for your reply buddy!

Clears most of what I wanted to ask.

I agree with CK saying that we can achieve a better UI (mini project) similar to the WP so everyone can use it and feel the same.

Regarding replicating actions and filters, that can also be achieved over time if community comes up forward (or just a few real developers start exploiting it to use).

Once my schedule loosens up a bit more, I will take a look at bbPress 0.9 development. And I also agree on your point of not rushing into a fork before 1.1 is out. Also I need some time to get the real fundamentals of how it was build and how everything works under the hood.

But one thing remains unanswered, what all we will need to fork the project.

[pagal]

how? and will this work with bbPages?

[kevinjohngallagher]

Ash mate, you know how much I like you and your work, but that poll is never going to give even close to an accurate figure. To start with you don’t know why people are voting for each one, or how often, or who’s voting.

I mean, Matt came on here and said that 0.9’s not been looked at in a long time and BAM 1.1 starts to get more votes. Matt forgets to mention, the 1.0 branch has had the same number of releases in the last year as the 0.9 branch: namely 0 !!

How much the 0.9 version has actually gone through testing and how much we can be confident it being secured.

Well it’s had 2 years more testing than 1.0 in the wild, and generally (apologies in advance) by people who are happier coding/debugging/ working without a GUI than the folks using 1.0 branch. Plus, the WP forums were running 0.9 until last August (at least), so it was known to be very secure then.

I know it may contain bugs, any code can but my curiosity lies in the testing & use it has gone through already.

A sh*t load more than 1.0.

Rememebr 1.0 was (another) rewrite decreeed from “above”, and we cancelled all Beta testing, and it took 10 alphas to even get useable (pres Alpha6 isn’t compatible with after-alpha-6), and broke most plugins etc. The process of getting 1.0 out the door also led to some of the real wizards leaving the project behind (see Chip Bennet, Justin Tadlock, JJJ, _ck_ etc), and released it in a week, and we released an update to 0.9 at the same time as 1.0’s last update

In my opinion, as someone who uses both; 1.0 only has 2 things going for it: The Admin section and it has more Actions/Filters.

Replicating actions/filters into 0.9 is easy. As _ck_ said, getting a nice looking UI into 0.9 is a mini project.

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1.1 has some good work, nae, some great work.

It also has some rusheed work, to get it out the door for testing.

It has at least 1000 lines of changed code last I checked (and that wasn’t today or yesterday) and we still have 10 tickets open – all before we release for Alpha testing, and all before we get a new package of BackPress released (in theory) after WP3.0.1’s release.

If we finished all of those tickets this week, and packaged an Alpha testing release for Monday, there is no way 1.1 will be released before September. Infact, we’re looking at a late-September/October release at a minimum, unless we skip testing and bug fixes (again).

Lets take our time and look at 0.9 objectively when 1.1 is close to coming out. Rushing into forks is just as dangerous as rushing into WP-reliant plugins

Ash mate, you’re a very smart guy. Go grab a busy forum and duplicate it on your machine, and convert to 0.9. You’ll very quickly see some of the small issues with it, but you’ll also be amazed at just how quick and robust it is.

[Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)]

Its a custom theme buddy and its kinda surprising for me that all you had to comment was that my theme looks like thesis.

[Gautam Gupta]

That theme looks more like Thesis.

[Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)]

@_ck_

How much the 0.9 version has actually gone through testing and how much we can be confident it being secured.

I know it may contain bugs, any code can but my curiosity lies in the testing & use it has gone through already.

If considered a fork, I think we need a few people on whom the people can count on for security updates.

What do you think?

[Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)]

You will find it all here along with some more info regarding deep integration – http://blog.ashfame.com/bbpress/

[Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)]

Poll changed overnight. Now only 40% of people are looking for a fork of bbPress 0.9 version and 60% for a fork of bbPress 1.1 version

[Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)]

Thanks for the link! Didn’t knew Justing has started the work on it

[Darfuria]

Ah, maybe he’s just worried because of: http://justintadlock.com/archives/2010/07/16/a-wordpress-forum-plugin-using-custom-post-types

[Erlend]

The challenge comes from the security model: WP hides a lot of things unless you’re on the backend.

Right on the money. That’s the root of my curiosity exactly.

So I see three possible options:

– With code-wizardry, you achieve what no other plugin author seems to have accomplished until now (bypassing the security model, without compromising WP security of course).

– Altering the way WP ‘guards’ its rich text editor

– Making a separate editor for the forumplugin

Or am I missing something?

It’s not like I really expect a finite answer while bbPress plugin is still in the early design stages, but it looks like this feature presents a proper challenge for the developers, hence my curiosity is peaked.

Maybe a good topic for a weekly meeting a bit further down the road?

[lowgiweightloss]

Installin BBpress and I get this error after entering my database details in the bbpress install screen:

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Welcome to the bbPress installer

Step 1 – Database configuration

Your settings have been saved to the file bb-config.php

You can now continue to the next step.

It says I can proceed to Step 2 but when I click the Step 2 button it brings me back to Step 1.

Can you tell me what permission I am supposed to have on my site. I read in places I need 777 and them some say 666, so I am not sure. I have set all to 777 and still does not work.

In the error it also states that is cannot access class.bb-install.php on line 1051. I go inot my files on FTP and I cannot even find class.bb-install.php in the includes folder.

Here is what i did from start to finish:

1. downloaded 1.0.2 bbpress install

2. unzipped and copied to my happybod.com/forum directory

3. Create a new database

4. Went to the install of bbpress http://www.happybod.com/happybod_web/forum/bb-admin/install.php

5. entered in the details of my database including hostname

6. then I get the error.

I even tried manaully uploading the bbpress-config.pho file and then running install. It says “ooppps looks like you have already insatlled bbpress” but when I go to http://www.happybod.com/forum it gives error: 500 – Internal server error.

There is a problem with the resource you are looking for, and it cannot be displayed.

Any ideas? Thanks so much

Kathryn

[citizenkeith]

With normal users in a healthy forum with a sense of community, duplicates will self correct. People will create unique pictures to identify themselves.

Not the best solution in terms of usability however.

[Ivaylo Draganov]

_ck_ I’d love to use that fix but it seems to interfere with “freshly baked cookies” plugin. It spawns several PHP warnings when trying to logout. Something along the lines of:

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/public_html/forum/my-plugins/page-links-for-bbpress/page-links.php:74) in /home/public_html/forum/bb-includes/pluggable.php on line 242

[Joou]

hi, i really like bbpress and I need to have on my webpage my own plugin directory, like there. User can add plugins, rate it, download, see screenshots and destription and comment it. Exactly like there. Can someone help me? Is there any plugin? It posible to get this version like on this page? Thanks a lot

[Milan Dinić]

Milan, BBXF is a nice idea but, like BackPress, it’s a bit of a boil-the-ocean approach. From our point of view rather than getting every system in the world to adopt this new format, it’s better to just target importers for specific platforms as the market demands it, which has worked well on the WP side.

Every system in the world doesn’t have to adopt BBXF. Since importers will already exist, why not make importers which will create BBXF if we already have some code and “standard”?

[Matt Mullenweg]

ashfame, I wouldn’t recommend downgrading to 0.9, it has not had updates or even a security review in a long time. If someone wants to fork it and start updating it that’s one thing, but as it stands using 0.9 is inadvisable.

_KB_, absolutely with regards to importers for other systems. We’ve held off on any importers so far because I really didn’t feel like bbPress was ready for switchers, there was so much fundamentally broken about its experience.

Milan, BBXF is a nice idea but, like BackPress, it’s a bit of a boil-the-ocean approach. From our point of view rather than getting every system in the world to adopt this new format, it’s better to just target importers for specific platforms as the market demands it, which has worked well on the WP side.

[Matt Mullenweg]

Will take a look at the links, maybe we could switch the search over to use Sphinx like we do on WP.org. (Sphinx is infinitely better and faster than anything we could ever do native in MySQL.)

[Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)]

Hi,

I did this project a while ago and I thought I would share it with everyone once I am really ready so that it can gain momentum but since now bbPress plugin has started development and we are at the stage of choosing a standalone version (I would prefer 0.9 anyday), I am sharing this site – http://bbninja.com

It hosts 38 themes which I edited manually to remove spam content and were aggregated from various sources. 3-4 more themes were released after I was done with this much of theme work.

Themes Showcase – http://bbninja.com/bbpress-themes/

And a friend of mine made some efforts to document functions of functions.bb-template.php file – http://bbninja.com/documentation/

Now I am looking forward to a bbPress 0.9 fork

[Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)]

I think Dailytalker was using deep integration, which loads the whole of WordPress on bbPress page loads so that you can call functions on the WordPress side from bbPress itself. Thus making virtually every WP plugin to work inside bbPress

[Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)]

Thanks for voting!

Instead of having a debate on approach to build something, lets take another chance to talk about forking bbPress.

As of poll right now, more than 70% are in favor of fork of bbPress 0.9 (You can take a look at the poll – http://poll.fm/239qh

What all will be required for a successful fork?

[zaerl]

BTW in a forum based system, how would you deal with two dozen users that insisted on using “Greg” as their display name and similar avatars?

You adopt my strategy https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/taking-a-look-at-bbpress-09#post-71655