[frooyo]

@ _ck_

And how once I had hope for bbPress, it seems like that hope dead with 0.9 some 3 years ago

_ck_, I’ll definitely make a donation, if you were to pick back up 0.9 and run with it. Fix the known bugs in 0.9 and add in native page (front page & topic) caching for non-logged in users.

I’ll donate $100. Seriously.

[Hard Seat Sleeper]

I’m running bbPress 1.0.2 and everything is working fine, but responding to an existing thread (posting a response to it) is verrrry slow to post, and sometimes even times out with an error. But the response always gets posted, even if the site times out.

Weirdly, starting a new thread is very fast.

Any idea what could be causing it?

[kikko088]

Hi at all, I try to put a value on input form (like bbpress.org form), I use this code

<input name=”topic” type=”text” id=”topic” size=”50″ maxlength=”80″ tabindex=”1″ value=”text” onfocus=”if(this.value==’text’){this.value=”;this.focus();}” onblur=”if(this.value==”){this.value=’text’}”/>

normally it work, now the problem is that I use also related post and I think it conflicts with the input code, infact if I active plugin the code don’t work, if I deactive the plugin the code work perfectly.

Can you help me?

kikko088

[_ck_]

For those not familiar with BuddyPress or how it uses bbPress, let me give you a quick example.

Here is a typical BuddyPress group’s discussion area (without forums it’s just a group of bloggers which also can be done with basic buddypress but it’s boring)

http://culturadigital.br/groups/banda-infinnita/forum/

Here it is natively inside the bbPress engine:

http://www.culturadigital.br/forum/forum.php?id=151

If you look back on their bbpress front-page you can see how all the groups are exposed as individual forums. This is how buddypress needs bbpress.

(I have no association at all with that site, it’s just a rare example of behind the scenes – unfortunately this kind of demo is not possible on most buddypress sites because JJJ has learned over time to “lock down” bbpress to prevent direct examination)

BuddyPress doesn’t need the bbPress front-end, at all. But it desperately needs the backend. And JJJ needs that backend to be faster and not have to load it’s own core. So by switching it to use WordPress’s core, buddyPress will be faster.

ps.the buddypress version of the forum takes FIVE times longer to render than the bbpress version – I’m not talking about the time to send the extra images on the page, I’m talking just server time to render the page. And that’s against bbPress 1.0, not 0.9

[_ck_]

@frooyo

Yes that is why forks of bbpress would be wise to start with 0.9

[frooyo]

@ _ck_

So bbPress is progressively getting worse and worse?

Sounds like 0.7-0.9 was what we’d all want back, no?

[_ck_]

Same question by two people on the same day?

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/making-the-newest-posts-show-up-first

[_ck_]

Let me clarify for those that don’t follow.

BuddyPress is JJJ’s pet project.

Buddypress relies on WordPress, currently it’s technically a “plugin” to WordPress.

Buddypress (pre-1.3) uses bbpress standalone to manage it’s groups by using bbpress’s engine to manage forums (buddypress “groups” technically are forums with specific memberships to limit who can post to where).

JJJ sees that there are far too many layers and way too much code being loaded which is making buddypress too slow. So his plan is to more closely tie bbpress into WordPress, making buddypress faster.

His motivation is not to improve bbpress for the sake of making bbpress better. He doesn’t need the front end of bbpress at all for buddypress. He already manages it through buddypress.

So by reinventing bbpress to use wordpress’s core, he can cut out some of the bulk and make buddypress faster. BuddyPress is currently very slow and bulky unless you have a decent server and good caching setup.

Taking control of bbPress is a side project to help buddypress for JJJ and he’ll never convince me otherwise about his motivations.

Note I am NOT saying you won’t be able to run bbPress without buddypress, of course you will be able to (because that’s even less complicated) But that’s not his motivation or priority, at all.

@frooyo

0.7-0.9 bbPress standalone, high speed core independent of WP

1.0-1.1 bbPress relies on backpress core, which uses WP functions (150% larger)

1.2/2.0 bbPress relies on WordPress 3+ for it’s core (200% larger)

If you think hooking into the bulk that is WP 3.x is going to make bbPress faster, well there’s going to be a mighty big wake up call sometime soon. It will make page caching easier, but that’s good because it’s practically going to be a requirement.

JJJ’s only motivation to do this is because his pet buddypress project relies on the bulk of WP so the logic is might as well force bbPress to also.

TL;DR bbPress rewrite makes buddypress faster but bbpress by itself slower than 0.9/1.1

[alexborras]

I managed to install manually configuring forum bb-config.php file and uploading to the bbPress folder. The bbPress database is different from WordPress.

[Rich Pedley]

No that’s wrong.

bbPress as a plugin for WordPress as a standalone plugin is being developed.

bbpress as a standalone still exists as this time.

bbpress does not rely on buddyPress.

buddyPress (as far as I am aware, but I could be wrong) uses an older version of bbPress.

As JJJ maintains buddyPress which uses bbPress it is only natural for him to ensure the 2 work together.

[frooyo]

@ _ck_

I don’t understand. I thought bbPress was to become a WP plugin, not apart of buddyPress (as it is in 1.0).

I’m so confused. Is this a good summary below?

– bbPress 0.x was a standalone forum product not dependent on anything else

– bbPress 1.0/1.1 is a standalone forum product but dependent upon buddyPress

– bbPress 1.2 (aka 2.0) will be a complete rewrite. no longer standalone forum software but instead, a WP plugin but NOT dependent on buddyPress. Just a WP plugin much like SimplePress (which is also a WP forum plugin).

Is that a correct summary above?

[_ck_]

Y’all don’t seem to notice that JJJ is mostly rewriting bbPress so it will work better with buddyPress specifically.

So bbPress 1.2 (please call it 2.0) being reinvented is tied directly to buddyPress 1.3

If you want clues, I’d be looking at buddyPress 1.3 release dates, not any specific commitments to bbPress itself.

https://trac.buddypress.org/milestone/1.3

Unless they are going to sweep a great deal of tickets under the rug (which happens often with WordPress so it’s not impossible with BP either) you’ve got a bit of a wait.

The key to understanding what is happening is that buddyPress is his pet project and bbPress is used as the internal engine for buddyPress groups. So if he rewrites one, has has to rewrite the other.

I didn’t completely realize this until I recently started studying what had changed in buddypress to understand why JJJ wanted to hijack bbPress. buddypress right now is essentially bloatpress and what he is doing to bbpress is specifically for his own ends to reduce BP bloat, not for the general good of bbpress users.

There are about 1000 (active) sites using bbpress inside of buddypress, so bbpress standalone is essentially being waylaid for those sites.

[_ck_]

While I won’t say it’s impossible, doing this currently with bbpress is difficult because of how everything internally is geared for newest last.

The post_position and other issues make this tricky. Even something as basic as jumping to the current post becomes a problem and has to be worked around.

Matt just didn’t think of anyone desiring it any other way when he first coded things in bbpress and now it’s legacy.

This is something I plan to address in a future (forked) version as well as parent/child threading. I’ve actually already accomplished it using plugins for a specific client but it’s overly complex and non-standardized.

[VirtualityStudio]

For anyone else that wants to set the default avatar… I eventually found this plugin that did work for me: https://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/bb-avatars/

yahoo!

now just to solve that pesky website link vs profile link issue.

[Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)]

Good that you got it working

[RedBull]

The two above posts explain how to accomplish this.

If you are using _ck_’s bbcode-lite plugin: https://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/bbcode-lite/

You can use basic html

<img src=”http://mydomain.com/pic.jpg&#8221; alt=”Pic1″ />

[_ck_]

The wordpress plugin would have to be adapted for bbpress.

[VirtualityStudio]

is there a way to change the default gravitar to something custom? i’m not talking about a member’s gravitar, but the one that shows up if they have not personalized it. there is a plugin to do this in wordpress, but i haven’t found one in bbpress yet.

also something i noticed is that under the gravitar… where the member’s name shows up, when you click on it the link takes you directly to their website instead of to their member profile……….. has anyone come across that and figured out a way to change that?

does bbpress have a permalinks option like wordpress does?

thanks!!!!!

[pvranken]

Ok, I did some searches in the WP DB and removed some more referrences to buddypress (just search for ‘buddy’ or ‘wp-bp’).

Alex, this probably works for you too, as you did exactly what I did. Asfame, thanks for thinking along.

[pvranken]

If you delete all ‘wp_bp’ tables, the forum installs. But it states that the forum is created in /wp-content/plugins/buddypress/bp-forums/bbpress/ (should be: domain.com/forum/ in my case)

I don’t have buddypress nor bbpress in my plugin directory any more. I guess I should remove more from the DB to make this work, any ideas?

[ethanthekiwi]

I integrated bbpress (1.0.2) with WordPress (3.0.1) successfully and integrated WordPress with Active Directory using the Simple LDAP login plugin. I can log in to WordPress then go to bbpress and be logged in still, but if I am not logged in, I cannot login through bbpress using active directory credentials. I can login to bbpress using an account that I created in WordPress. I have WordPress and bbPress installed in different databases, but bbPress uses the WordPress users database. Because the passwords are not stored in the WordPress database, (they are stored in Active Directory) it does not access them. My goal is to create a forum that is simple as possible for my organization’s intranet.

My system:

Turnkey Linux WordPress Appliance

WordPress 3.0.1

bbPress 1.0.2

[Rich Pedley]

I have contacted JJJ and pointed him at this thread. My guess is though that he has been busy elsewhere. But hopefully he’ll be along shortly with an update…

[zaerl]

sorry….I don’t know this is a support forum.

looks like a demo site…

Well the title of this page is “okiss test topic << bbPress Support Forums.”

[Ricardo]

is it this? tried to activated and it brought wordpress down on my local wampserver, had to delete plugin to get wordpress back again.

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/1038/bbpress.jpg

[Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)]

You would have to remove BuddyPress related stuff from DB then.