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  • #97090

    In reply to: my-plugins again

    bbailie
    Member

    If it makes no sense to you, why post a reply?

    Our server is on one of the largest corporate web hosts in the world, Peer One. They could resolve it, but professionally managed servers incur some fees when we have to have them go in.

    Somebody must have written the script to create the folders, and done so without the correct user auth. I see this has been discussed on this forum in regards to others’ plugins. It appears to be the same issue.

    My thought was that I’m not alone in having this issue with the current install, so maybe it would make sense to someone. Or perhaps they already wrote an uninstall script for it to test on a clean server.

    Apparently many users had old copies of bbPress required manual creation of those folders. Thus, when installing a new version, the problem would not manifest itself.

    TIA

    -Brian

    #102243
    Justin Tadlock
    Participant

    Thanks to JJJ for pointing this topic out to me.

    Right now, my forum plugin isn’t planned for public release. I’d much rather see a community-supported plugin because a lot more can get done. The plugin could simply be better developed and have better support if it’s a community-run project. Make no mistake, a plugin like this is massive amounts of work, more than one person can realistically handle. Honestly, I don’t want to be the only person developing and supporting a forum plugin.

    The reasons I’ve been doing my own thing rather than fully devoting my time to bbPress:

    1) I just wanted to see if I could do it for fun.

    2) I had some projects that needed basic forum functionality that couldn’t wait for alternate solutions.

    3) Everybody wants something, mostly things I don’t believe belong in a lightweight forum plugin.

    4) I’ve been hesitant to get more involved in bbPress because I don’t want to deal with all the drama here. ;)

    I just finished three months of intense writing for a WP plugin book, so my time has been limited for a while. I’ve still got book-related things this month as well. Once this process is done, I plan to devote more time to the bbPress plugin.

    What we want:

    These are the things I believe most of us want, which is the reasons I put together a plugin and the reasons for the bbPress plugin. This comes down to two things:

    * A plugin that easily integrates into the WordPress user/role and login system.

    * Forums that can be managed from our WP admins.

    It’s basically about being able to run forums without a lot of hassle.

    The direction I’d like to see the bbPress plugin go:

    * Stick with the philosophy: lightweight and basic.

    * Allow plugins to extend anything needed beyond basic forum functionality.

    * Use the functions WordPress provides where possible.

    * Forget backwards-compatible hooks and functions. Build a new system.

    #97143
    Justin Tadlock
    Participant

    Thanks to JJJ for pointing this topic out to me.

    Right now, my forum plugin isn’t planned for public release. I’d much rather see a community-supported plugin because a lot more can get done. The plugin could simply be better developed and have better support if it’s a community-run project. Make no mistake, a plugin like this is massive amounts of work, more than one person can realistically handle. Honestly, I don’t want to be the only person developing and supporting a forum plugin.

    The reasons I’ve been doing my own thing rather than fully devoting my time to bbPress:

    1) I just wanted to see if I could do it for fun.

    2) I had some projects that needed basic forum functionality that couldn’t wait for alternate solutions.

    3) Everybody wants something, mostly things I don’t believe belong in a lightweight forum plugin.

    4) I’ve been hesitant to get more involved in bbPress because I don’t want to deal with all the drama here. ;)

    I just finished three months of intense writing for a WP plugin book, so my time has been limited for a while. I’ve still got book-related things this month as well. Once this process is done, I plan to devote more time to the bbPress plugin.

    What we want:

    These are the things I believe most of us want, which is the reasons I put together a plugin and the reasons for the bbPress plugin. This comes down to two things:

    * A plugin that easily integrates into the WordPress user/role and login system.

    * Forums that can be managed from our WP admins.

    It’s basically about being able to run forums without a lot of hassle.

    The direction I’d like to see the bbPress plugin go:

    * Stick with the philosophy: lightweight and basic.

    * Allow plugins to extend anything needed beyond basic forum functionality.

    * Use the functions WordPress provides where possible.

    * Forget backwards-compatible hooks and functions. Build a new system.

    #101495
    master5o1
    Participant

    ^ I have noticed on my HTC Legend that when I look at http://dump.master5o1.com/mobi it shows it differently to http://m.tartarus.co.nz/

    Not sure why that is, they’re the same code and the same css.

    Tell me if it looks better in http://m.tartarus.co.nz/

    #96395
    master5o1
    Participant

    ^ I have noticed on my HTC Legend that when I look at http://dump.master5o1.com/mobi it shows it differently to http://m.tartarus.co.nz/

    Not sure why that is, they’re the same code and the same css.

    Tell me if it looks better in http://m.tartarus.co.nz/

    #94554
    Rich Pedley
    Member

    Adding a child theme is incredibly easy, check the really minimal one you can have:

    https://codex.wordpress.org/Child_Themes#Example_of_a_basic_Child_Theme

    But if you’ve developed a custom one yourself, then adding the necessary files/functions to that theme would be easy as well.

    #94553
    wildkyo
    Member

    Ooops… I’m not using a child theme and I’m not planning to use it because my theme is done from scratch and for performance reasons. I hope BBpress plugin will be compatible anyway!

    #94552
    Rich Pedley
    Member

    If needs be I’ll take a look when the time comes. Child themes aren’t that difficult ;)

    #94551
    ortixia
    Participant

    i believe that atahualpa would be very difficult to make into a child theme due to the huge amount of option pages. instead of editing .php files, we add these in a page called CSS and HTML (php etc.) inserts, as well as specific pages on before and after the loop.

    i am asking around though.

    #94550

    The plugin will have shortcodes and widgets to attempt to ease people in to integrating bbPress into existing themes, but because you can’t easily introduce completely new functionality into a theme that isn’t designed to handle it, there will be limitations to that method.

    For the most mileage, you’re better off copying the files out of the bbp-twentyten theme and into your existing child theme and modifying the HTML and CSS to taste. (You are using a child theme, right? :) )

    Topic and reply counts are next on my list of todo’s. They are the biggest source of confusion right now, justifiably so.

    #94549

    @ortixia

    The standalone ver will live on

    #94548
    Rich Pedley
    Member

    I deleted part of my reply before I posted…

    the child themes will be easy enough to do(or add to an existing child theme), but it is too early in the process for others to be created.

    I’m sure full instructions on how to achieve this will be forthcoming down the line, just not yet.

    #101494
    ortixia
    Participant

    i understand it is early. your site was lovely. but on my iphone, i think i would need a stylus and a magnifying glass to work it. perhaps a more condensed styling.

    For example it appears on the surface to be a two column table, one with the topic and one with the username of the person starting the topic.

    perhaps if they were both in the same column. The topic larger, the username smaller below. i noticed in other iphone apps, like wiki, the page width is fixed rather than leading off to the side.

    #96394
    ortixia
    Participant

    i understand it is early. your site was lovely. but on my iphone, i think i would need a stylus and a magnifying glass to work it. perhaps a more condensed styling.

    For example it appears on the surface to be a two column table, one with the topic and one with the username of the person starting the topic.

    perhaps if they were both in the same column. The topic larger, the username smaller below. i noticed in other iphone apps, like wiki, the page width is fixed rather than leading off to the side.

    #94545
    ortixia
    Participant

    i use atathulpa as well, but my site is not live yet. I am just switching it over to the child theme when testing the plug-in.

    though topics and posts are showing up as 0 count, the posts are coming up in my forum, i believe, that they are working on this (i saw the code in an earlier post.)

    @rich- i am in communication with the sharedaddy people over the plugin, it was mostly ironically funny, because i am finding the sharedaddy to be a bit of curse everywhere.

    overall, as i do use atahualpa for my site, i will probably need to move to a different forum platform all together, or use bbpress stand alone. i wonder if the stand alone will continue to be worked on once the plug-in is official.

    however, as i have time, i am willing to experiment a bit, because i feel that bbpress is worth the investment.

    #94544
    Rich Pedley
    Member

    Yep, and it certainly isn’t ready for use on a live site as yet anyway.

    #94543
    OreilleMalade
    Participant

    OK thanks !

    So I guess I’ve got to wait for these instructions to be done as I’m using Atahualpa Theme for WP…

    #94542
    Rich Pedley
    Member

    you need to activate and use the twenty ten child theme for bbPress, it should be available on your Appearance page.

    Instructions on how to create child themes for other Themes are not yet done.

    #94540
    OreilleMalade
    Participant

    Hi,

    I’ve just started to test bbpress plug-in on a brand new website :

    http://windows-mobile.fr

    I installed, activated and created a new forum and a new topic inside this forum.

    My problem :

    http://windows-mobile.fr/forum >>> 404

    http://windows-mobile.fr/topic/test1 >>> 404

    (it redirects to http://windows-mobile.fr because of the WP plugin ‘link juice keeper’)

    When I check my dashboard I can see :

    Forum : test

    Topics : 0

    Replies : 0

    I guess this is the problem. However I don’t understand it because when I look at the topic page it’s correctly linked with its parent forum. Am I just a stupid froggy or what ? ;-)

    I’m using WP 3.0.1

    My theme : Atahualpa Theme by BytesForAll

    Any other info needed ?

    Thanks for helping !

    Best regards to all of you people,

    Laurent

    #94539
    Rich Pedley
    Member

    Iit should be possible to disable it for the custom post types of bbPress.

    #102238

    I’ve had a check-out for a while, but nothing of his has made it in yet.

    Because there are only so many ways to do the same thing, our code is very similar with a few different methods here and there. His code is more mature in a few areas (mapping WordPress meta capabilities, topic/reply counts, additional query caching…) and it’s almost time to cherry pick his code and give props where due. :)

    He started out using taxonomies for forums, but a lack of taxonomy meta thwarted that idea. We talked before either of us made too much progress on how to best do things so we would be loosely compatible with each other. I committed early on to using post types for data storage for everything to allow for easy forward compatibility with things like forum/topic/reply thumbnails, excerpts, revisions, etc… Justin and I both agreed it was the quickest way to go, we put our noses down and wrote some code, and we met a month or two ago in #bbpress on IRC and exchanged more code and ideas.

    It was really cool for Justin to volunteer to share his code and approach. He spent countless hours getting things dialed in and that time is going to be greatly appreciated real soon. :)

    It would have been even cooler to have him contribute patches directly to trac, but from what I recall of our talks he had some previous obligations that prevented it. I’m sure if I’m wrong Justin will catch wind and chime in. :)


    Edit: I saw a reply in the above linked topic about him ‘turning over’ code to bbPress, but I don’t really see it like that. His code is always his, and he’s free to continue developing his plugin if he wanted to. No hard feelings. :)

    The bbPress trac is public and the code is visible for everyone to see, versus Justin’s forum code which to my understanding isn’t something he wants openly available for download, or else I imagine he’d probably have it that way. I know from experience that supporting something as large as bbPress on top of other obligations can be a challenge, so I wouldn’t blame him for not wanting to volunteer additional time.

    Either way I’m honored to have his respect and be able to have someone attempting to do something similar at the same time. It’s one of the first times in my professional career I’ve had what most people would consider ‘friendly competition’ without ever feeling like we were against each other in any way… not that I’ve ever had unfriendly competition… but you get the idea. :)

    #97138

    I’ve had a check-out for a while, but nothing of his has made it in yet.

    Because there are only so many ways to do the same thing, our code is very similar with a few different methods here and there. His code is more mature in a few areas (mapping WordPress meta capabilities, topic/reply counts, additional query caching…) and it’s almost time to cherry pick his code and give props where due. :)

    He started out using taxonomies for forums, but a lack of taxonomy meta thwarted that idea. We talked before either of us made too much progress on how to best do things so we would be loosely compatible with each other. I committed early on to using post types for data storage for everything to allow for easy forward compatibility with things like forum/topic/reply thumbnails, excerpts, revisions, etc… Justin and I both agreed it was the quickest way to go, we put our noses down and wrote some code, and we met a month or two ago in #bbpress on IRC and exchanged more code and ideas.

    It was really cool for Justin to volunteer to share his code and approach. He spent countless hours getting things dialed in and that time is going to be greatly appreciated real soon. :)

    It would have been even cooler to have him contribute patches directly to trac, but from what I recall of our talks he had some previous obligations that prevented it. I’m sure if I’m wrong Justin will catch wind and chime in. :)


    Edit: I saw a reply in the above linked topic about him ‘turning over’ code to bbPress, but I don’t really see it like that. His code is always his, and he’s free to continue developing his plugin if he wanted to. No hard feelings. :)

    The bbPress trac is public and the code is visible for everyone to see, versus Justin’s forum code which to my understanding isn’t something he wants openly available for download, or else I imagine he’d probably have it that way. I know from experience that supporting something as large as bbPress on top of other obligations can be a challenge, so I wouldn’t blame him for not wanting to volunteer additional time.

    Either way I’m honored to have his respect and be able to have someone attempting to do something similar at the same time. It’s one of the first times in my professional career I’ve had what most people would consider ‘friendly competition’ without ever feeling like we were against each other in any way… not that I’ve ever had unfriendly competition… but you get the idea. :)

    #94536
    ortixia
    Participant

    testing the plug-in. laughing… I’ve got this crazy sharedaddy plugin on my site, and it is putting facebook and twitter icons on each topic and each reply!!

    otherwise it is much smoother and cleaner than I anticipated. will continue to follow changes.

    #94535

    wildkyo: Is there any date on which you think the plugin will be fully functional? I tried it today and it seems that it still needs much more development.

    Still in the early stages yes, I agree, but the barebones of the plugin is actually there (or pretty much there) in my opinion. I have it running locally, and it works a treat, you can post a new topic from the frontend … for some that’d be all they wanted and needed!

    I got the impression (somewhere) that JJJ wanted the final release out by the end of the year if I’m not wrong, but please don’t go and quote me on that, I’m very likely wrong! :(

    #102237

    When Justin announced DevPress.com on his personal blog, the question was raised about the Forum Plugin he’d been working on, to which he replied:

    We’re thinking of just contributing all the work back to the bbPress community for their plugin. I’ll post an update as soon as we know the direction we’re going in.

    Something like a week later he posted:

    The entire code base that we use to run our forums has already been handed over to the bbPress project. I sent JJJ a link to download it a few weeks ago.

    As for if JJJ has used any of the code Justin had, I don’t know, chances are both were/would have been pretty similar (but I can’t confirm that!) — Only JJJ and/or Justin could tell us that! :P

    Because of what Justin achieved, I’d love to get him on the ”bbPress (Plugin) Team” and help JJJ get this machine on the road. I myself have it running on a local install, the barebones is GREAT and I can tell you that! :) Shame my coding knowledge isn’t as good!

    Anyway, there’s some info! HAHA

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