[kizinko]

Central forums like bbPress.org

[Jean-Pierre Michaud]

would be just good to have the RC on the distro instead of the older Beta3, as people would see what was done really, not just the bugged version… would it be possible to update the distro ?!

btw, my own question would be against the template styles of the forum. when using the 20-11 theme, when we browse thru the forum, the main level has one style, and the sub-pages has different styles… making it unconfortable for the visitor… i would personally add a setting when using a 3.2 theme to have a setting in the forum configuration to choose what structure to use, sidebar or not, page or single display, etc… because i would use the “page with sidebar” configuration for most of my clients … you see the point?

btw, 20-11 for the final version please ?!

oh, btw, great job, the forum is just great… i donated in the last years and will continue to do so for each of my clients that use your product…

[Mike1233]

problem: i cant see smileys. i try copy to wp-content. change settings… all but i cant see the smileys.

have you an idea?

EDIT: …and can you make this bar for the normal wordpress comments? only without images and youtube? i search for a lot of time for a good postbar for comments.

[Andre]

From https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/bbpress-20-faq:

“What is happening to bbPress 1.x?

It will continue to be maintained into the foreseeable future but is feature frozen, meaning no new features will get put in.”

[Suzi Wilson]

Thank you both sincerely for your assistance. I now believe I am set up properly and will go about my merry way ignoring advice to access my BB-press admin panel.

Suzi

[Mike1233]

beta 3 works great. for future i wish only to show last topics over/under forum-index.

great work.

[pimarts]

Final addition, I’m giving up on this for now:

I run a child theme of bp-default.

I have files for archive.php, comments.php, footer.php, functions.php, header.php, index.php, page.php, search.php, single.php and type.php in my theme dir. That’s it.

Everything seems to work aside from the editing of topics. I tried copying single-reply-edit.php and single-topic-edit.php to my theme dir, but that didn’t help either.

With this info, any ideas now? Like I said, I’m giving up. I pretty much tried anything I could think of by now. Sorry to bother you with this

[pimarts]

Just trying all kinds of stuff now. Disabling BuddyPress didn’t help either.

Is there any way I can see what file WordPress is looking for before it re-directs? Or in what file the re-direct takes place? (I know this question is not really bbPress related, but maybe you know the answer anyway).

[pimarts]

That does work too, but when the forum-single.php gets upgraded and you want to stay up date with your theme files you’ll have to re-do the change(s).

[mayank_sabharwal]

Thanks. I figured it out after i posted this question. Thanks anyways for your help

[88dbsakthi]

I just removed the sidebar tag from the forum-single.php file and upload it to my theme directory and it worked well.

[88dbsakthi]

I am using simple facebook connect plugin with my wordpress blog and its sync well with bbpress also.

[88dbsakthi]

I am running earlier version of bbpress and being the bbpress 2 is releases as a plugin of wordpress. Is the core forum supported anymore ? or any suggestions

[pimarts]

Yeah I tried that a couple of times already, because I remembered that being a problem in the beginning.

I have a custom structure with “/%category%/%postname%/” at common settings. And the optional fields are blank.

I’ll probably have to look into the WordPress & Buddypress files to see where they do a 301 re-direct. Because when I installed httpfox and did record a session I saw the browser getting a 301 re-direct.

This is in my htaccess file by the way:

<IfModule mod_rewrite.c>

RewriteEngine On

RewriteBase /

RewriteRule ^index.php$ - [L]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d

RewriteRule . /index.php [L]

</IfModule>

And this from the W3 Total Cache plugin too:

# BEGIN W3TC Page Cache core

<IfModule mod_rewrite.c>

RewriteEngine On

RewriteBase /

RewriteRule ^(.*/)?w3tc_rewrite_test$ $1?w3tc_rewrite_test=1 [L]

RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} (2.0 mmp|240x320|alcatel|amoi|asus|au-mic|audiovox|avantgo|benq|bird|blackberry|blazer|cdm|cellphone|danger|ddipocket|docomo|dopod|elaine/3.0|ericsson|eudoraweb|fly|haier|hiptop|hp.ipaq|htc|huawei|i-mobile|iemobile|j-phone|kddi|konka|kwc|kyocera/wx310k|lenovo|lg|lg/u990|lge vx|midp|midp-2.0|mmef20|mmp|mobilephone|mot-v|motorola|netfront|newgen|newt|nintendo ds|nintendo wii|nitro|nokia|novarra|o2|openweb|opera mobi|opera.mobi|palm|panasonic|pantech|pdxgw|pg|philips|phone|playstation portable|portalmmm|bppcb|proxinet|psp|qtek|sagem|samsung|sanyo|sch|sec|sendo|sgh|sharp|sharp-tq-gx10|small|smartphone|softbank|sonyericsson|sph|symbian|symbian os|symbianos|toshiba|treo|ts21i-10|up.browser|up.link|uts|vertu|vodafone|wap|willcome|windows ce|windows.ce|winwap|xda|zte) [NC]

RewriteRule .* - [E=W3TC_UA:_low]

RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} (acer s100|android|archos5|blackberry9500|blackberry9530|blackberry9550|blackberry 9800|cupcake|docomo ht-03a|dream|htc hero|htc magic|htc_dream|htc_magic|incognito|ipad|iphone|ipod|kindle|lg-gw620|liquid build|maemo|mot-mb200|mot-mb300|nexus one|opera mini|samsung-s8000|series60.*webkit|series60/5.0|sonyericssone10|sonyericssonu20|sonyericssonx10|t-mobile mytouch 3g|t-mobile opal|tattoo|webmate|webos) [NC]

RewriteRule .* - [E=W3TC_UA:_high]

RewriteCond %{HTTP_COOKIE} w3tc_referrer=.*(google.com|yahoo.com|bing.com|ask.com|msn.com) [NC]

RewriteRule .* - [E=W3TC_REF:_search_engines]

RewriteCond %{HTTPS} =on

RewriteRule .* - [E=W3TC_SSL:_ssl]

RewriteCond %{SERVER_PORT} =443

RewriteRule .* - [E=W3TC_SSL:_ssl]

RewriteCond %{HTTP:Accept-Encoding} gzip

RewriteRule .* - [E=W3TC_ENC:.gzip]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_METHOD} !=POST

RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} =""

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} /$ [OR]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} (sitemap.xml(.gz)?) [NC]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !(/wp-admin/|/xmlrpc.php|/wp-(app|cron|login|register|mail).php|wp-.*.php|index.php) [NC,OR]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} (wp-comments-popup.php|wp-links-opml.php|wp-locations.php) [NC]

RewriteCond %{HTTP_COOKIE} !(comment_author|wp-postpass|wordpress_[a-f0-9]+|wordpress_logged_in) [NC]

RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} !(W3 Total Cache/0.9.2.3) [NC]

RewriteCond "%{DOCUMENT_ROOT}/wp-content/w3tc/pgcache/%{REQUEST_URI}/_index%{ENV:W3TC_UA}%{ENV:W3TC_REF}%{ENV:W3TC_SSL}.html%{ENV:W3TC_ENC}" -f

RewriteRule .* "/wp-content/w3tc/pgcache/%{REQUEST_URI}/_index%{ENV:W3TC_UA}%{ENV:W3TC_REF}%{ENV:W3TC_SSL}.html%{ENV:W3TC_ENC}" [L]

</IfModule>

# END W3TC Page Cache core

But taking that out (the W3TC stuff) doesn’t change anything, so the problem isn’t in there.

[John James Jacoby]

The way that BuddyPress integrates bbPress is currently through BuddyPress Groups. Do you want your forums to be powered by user groups, or do you want to have central forums like we have here at bbPress.org and WordPress.org?

[John James Jacoby]

@suziwilson – The way that BuddyPress integrates bbPress, into WordPress, is by taking over the installation and administration of bbPress completely. That said, if you are using BuddyPress to manage your forums, you do not have access to the bbPress admin area any longer.

If you previously had bbPress setup without BuddyPress, there is a large possibility that you will want to go back to the old setup you had before. BuddyPress currently ties forums into BuddyPress Groups, so they work a bit unconventionally compared to your normal support forums.

Very soon you will be able to install a new version of bbPress totally outside of BuddyPress, and they will work transparently without any additional setup, as two separate WordPress plugins rather than having bbPress be tucked away inside BuddyPress like it is now.

I know it’s all really confusing right now, but it won’t be soon.

[Andre]

The bbpress admin panel is for standalone (version 1.x), not plugin (version 2.x). The only options for the plugin are at /wp-admin/options-general.php?page=bbpress.

When BuddyPress mentions integrating bbPress it is referring to integrating bbpress standalone. BuddyPress will work with bbpress plugin one day, but I haven’t seen anything indicating when.

[Suzi Wilson]

Thank you Andre, I can get into my wp-admin just fine. I think my question is rather simple and I just don’t know what I’m doing wrong.

I installed the bbpress plug in and the Buddypress plugin but I hear that you have to administer bbpress and the settings through the bb-press admin panel. However, when I type in my url followed by /bb-admin I only get my 404 page.

I suspect that I am just doing something wrong or I haven’t signed up properly or something. I’m just looking for a breadcrumb of information that will set me in the right direction.

If you have any suggestions on how to set this up properly I would love to hear it. I feel like someone dropped me off in the middle of the desert without a map or compass.

Suzi

[John James Jacoby]

Maybe try visiting your permalinks page and seeing if flushing the rewrite rules helps? The ‘/edit’ is a special rewrite rule, so it’s possible they never got reset.

[Anointed]

Which do you prefer as the default? Users can access all forums, or users can only access forums for which they have a role on that specific site?

I would prefer that users can only access a forum for which they have a role on a specific site.

Here is my argument for this:

1. It is easy enough to programmatically add a user to another site either upon registration or after the fact.

2. buddypress finally has ‘mu’ capability. Many of us have asked for years to have separated installs of bp with an ‘mu’ network. Having users added to all forums can confuse this operation. (besides if you are using buddypress, there is already a plugin to add all users to all groups/forums)

Should forum results appear in your existing blog search? Should they be separated?

I’d rather have all results show up in a users search in a single search box.

Here is my argument:

1. Forum posts are data just like a post is data. I simply use forums in order to present the data in a different layout than blogs as it can be more appropriate.

2. A user comes to a website to find information. Who am I to tell a user that the million+ posts in my forum are less relevant to what they are looking for than a blog post? It gives the impression to a user who uses search and does not see the forum results that there is less relevant information on the site than there actually is.

How I would solve the template problem.

1. Include all results in the search output and simply separate out the design within the template for each type of data output.

`if (get_query_var(‘post_type’) == “post”){

get_template_part( ‘loop’, ‘post’ );

} elseif (get_query_var(‘post_type’) == “topic”){

get_template_part( ‘loop’, ‘topic’ );

} else …..’

2. This can lead to one really annoying issue. The results are output in the order of ‘post-date’, so the results are jumbled together. Meaning you could end up with post – topic – topic – post – reply…

To solve this issue I would attack this with the ‘groupby’ function. I would show 10x ‘posts’ then 10x ‘topics’ then 10x ‘replies’ etc, with a ‘MORE’ button underneath each of the 10. That way a user could say I want to see ‘MORE’ search results for just ‘posts’, or just ‘topics’ etc..

To go even fancier, you could apply some ajax loading to the MORE button.

Another option would be to allow the user to filter their search results either pre or post search utilizing check boxes. A user could select what types they want to search for. Then have the search function itself only include the selected post-types in the initial query.

*All of this is currently possible and I am about 70% there already, although not for search specifically. I ran into this issue when a user goes to a tax term page where the tax term is shared by multiple post-types. When I finish, I’ll pass the code along, although I’m sure you can probably do better than I can anyway.

Should we break the one page up into a few, or leave it as 1 page with all options?

I had to laugh when I read that you thought the page was already out of control. Have you ever seen the admin page for vbulletin?

If it were me, I would use a multi-tabbed admin page much like many of the premium theme companies use.

I absolutely love the flexibility that the vbulletin admin panel gives me. I can control every aspect imaginable and can’t imagine running a large forum without it.

Frankly if an admin doesn’t want to take the time to learn and operate the admin panel they should just bugger off and install any one of the crappy basic forums already available. I’d rather see bbpress turn into a full blown commercial level forum setup for wp.

[pimarts]

Thanks for looking into it! Guess I’ll need to dig a bit deeper in this then. I don’t use any custom bbPress template files by the way. (I do run buddyPress and custom post types, maybe something strange is going on in there).

Guess I need to find out what page is being loaded / looked for when it re-directs from /edit/ to the topic.

Edit: Seems it’s loading /mytheme/page.php (a child-theme copy of bp-default/page.php), but the re-direction happens before loading that page…

Edit2: Disabling all plugins (aside from buddypress & bbpress) and the stuff in functions.php didn’t help either.

[John James Jacoby]

Editing topics and replies has been working for months, and I’m not able to duplicate any of what you’re mentioning on several installs.

If you have passed the time limit on editing topics or replies, the link no longer appears, so that isn’t the problem.

The edit links are always available to admins, regardless of the time limit set.

Sounds to me like something is wrong with your install somewhere. Most likely custom template files?

[pimarts]

In my search.php I only return the title & excerpt. And that works perfectly, until I add the the code above and one of the results is a topic / reply. I assume that’s when bbPress takes over the entire output?

The first result has the breadcrumbs, “This topic has 1 voice, contains 0 replies, and was last updated by.” line, the style of a topic and a reply form. Pretty much just the whole viewtopic page. The results after that (both replies, topics AND blog posts) only display the content (with HTML in it). No titles on either the first or the replies after that. That’s expected behaviour?

As for that appending:

You mean http://www.domain.com/?ts=test or http://www.domain.com/?rs=test? That doesn’t seem to work for me.

I might want to go the Google search way, but for whatever reason I never liked it when sites implemented that. I can’t really say why though haha.

[pimarts]

That’s the risk when you run software that didn’t have a proper release yet

Proper documentation will come in time, I have no doubt about that.

If you were running the plugin that’s in the wordpress repository at the moment (beta2b or something) you might want to change that with the one in trac (https://bbpress.trac.wordpress.org/browser/branches/plugin) that has some fixes in it.

I don’t know if they’ll fix your problem though. I never had to add any code to my functions.php to make it work and while I do have a message in my dashboard “Theme does not natively support bbPress”, it works pretty good

[pimarts]

Didn’t run into anything with the page templates or multisite (don’t use that), but here’s something about the other two:

Search

I like a site wide search results, but maybe an option in the settings is an idea? Something like “Search scope: Don’t search forums / Site wide / forum only” or something. I don’t know how that would work out coding wise for you.

What I ran into when I enabled searching through the forums was the fact that the first result included a reply form and everything, if it could have kept basic styling (like the other results) it would be perfect.

Settings

I don’t think there’s too many settings yet. You could break em up into several pages (with tabs), but that means users have to click more and some options will be harder to find (maybe you want that with some options).

Some settings I would like to see added (just throwing it in here):

• Enable / disable time limit on editing.
• The search scope function mentioned above
• Avatar size
• (Just because I stripped it out and don’t use it) Tag functionality: Enable / disable