[John James Jacoby]

2.2.2

• RTL and i18n fixes
• Improved user profile theme compatibility
• Fixed incorrect link in credits page
• Fixed admin area JS issues related to topic suggest
• Fixed template part reference in extras user edit template

Thanks everyone that’s been contributing feedback here in the forums and patches on trac!

[htz77]

Hey JJJ, thanks for helping out again.

Hmm. When I comment out line 633 in bbpress/includes/core/theme-compat.php,
//bbp_remove_all_filters( 'the_content' );
the problem is fixed — the custom WP_Query’s all have the correct paragraph breaks. So it still seems related to me somehow. But of course I don’t want to just keep it commented out. I’m sure it’s there for a reason, and I don’t want to edit core files.

Also, I just added is_main_query() and in_the_loop() to the templates that do my custom WP_Query queries. And even those show is_main_query = TRUE, which seems weird, huh. Though in_the_loop = False, as it should be, so I’m not sure why that wouldn’t prevent the problem.

Any further insight much appreciated!

[John James Jacoby]

It’s most likely not because of this. Even here at bbPress.org, the header, sidebar, and footer all create new WP_Query objects without any issues.

bbPress 2.2 even adds additional checks for is_main_query() and in_the_loop() to make sure this doesn’t happen.

[htz77]

Hi. My site has a custom WP_Query (outside the main loop) in the header (in header.php), and another in the footer (in footer.php). On all/only my bbPress pages, the paragraph breaks in this content are missing, because wpautop is not applied as it normally is.

That’s because bbPress REMOVES THE FILTER “the_content”. I tracked it down to bbp_remove_all_filters( ‘the_content’ ); in bbpress/includes/core/theme-compat.php, line 633.

In that same file, I also see bbp_restore_all_filters(), which looks like it should fix the problem. But it’s not actually working on my custom queries.

So how can I apply bbp_restore_all_filters() to my custom WP_Query calls?

Thanks for any help here!

MY WORDPRESS INFO:
Wordpress v3.4.2
bbPress v2.2.1

RELATED POST:
I also had a similar issue a month ago (http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/conflict-with-custom-wp_query-in-header-php/) where bbPress conflicted with these same WP_Query calls in my header and footer. But in that case, the main content from bbPress was REPLACING the content from my WP_Query. I somehow solved that problem by just changing my slugs. But I now see it was probably caused by add_filter( ‘the_content’, ‘bbp_replace_the_content’ );, also in this theme-compat.php file.

[docchewbacca]

Hi

I looked at version 2.2, updated my bbpress, but didn’t find how to manage forum access on an individual user basis.

Has this feature been implemented?

 

[bbuser12345]

I’m confident you’ll figure it out.

I wish I was as confident…

It’s fine to be frustrated, but your tone towards the volunteers trying to help you is pretty crappy.

My tone is one of exasperation (maybe desperation). I have been using BBPress for 5 years, and stuck with it through “the dark years”. I have read all the help pages, and I know my way around a command line, yet this converter, built ostensibly to help non-experts, does not work and I cannot find help. I have a message board that is falling apart, and being overrun by spam, and I have spent countless hours trying to migrate the database using the converter. Which is just the first step in migrating the forum.

If you don’t like the documentation, change it. It’s a WordPress site where everyone is an Editor, and you can be part of the solution just like every other volunteer, or you can be upset because the amazing free software you’re using isn’t as polished as we all know it could be. If only we had more volunteers… Paradox.

I am not sure whether to laugh or cry. If I knew what was wrong with the documentation, I would change it. Of course if I knew what was wrong with the documentation I would likely not have a problem in the first place and would never have sought out the documentation. There is your paradox. People who seek out documentation are by definition having trouble and are likely not expert users. They are the last people who are qualified to improve the documentation.

We brought the old bbConverter into bbPress in 2.1. bbConverter development stopped, and I took it over and brought it into bbPress core along with several much needed fixes. Trying to use software that you know is abandoned and others have not succeeded with is generally a bad idea.

Thats great information!! Why does it not appear either on the bbconverter plug-in page or on the https://codex.bbpress.org/import-forums/ page?

I should note that I don’t see any way for me to add this information to the documentation of either the old deprecated plug-in (which gets downloaded and installed many times a day apparently) or on the codex page for the converter.

The connection failure doesn’t provide the feedback you’re wishing for. There is no “your password was incorrect but the username is okay” level of feedback, so you’re on your own. Based on how capable and experienced you are, let’s assume it’s correct anyway.

Wait! You said connection failure… how do you know it is a connection failure? Is there something in the message (or that is not in the message) that tells you that? If so why does the console not report:

“You have failed to connect to the server. At least one of these three things is wrong: The Old Database’s Server Name, The Database’s User Name or the old Database’s User Password. Unfortunately, this converter cannot tell you which one or more of these things is wrong”

Instead the error I get is one I would expect if I had the name of a table in my database wrong in a query.

Look, I know that you cannot pass on information to the user that the server does not report. But when I access mySQL databases and servers the wrong way with a mySQL client or R or python or myPHP I get error messages with error codes. Things like “#1045 Cannot log in to the MySQL server”. This lets me know what I have screwed up so I can fix it. Is it a missing table or the wrong database name? Or am I not even connecting to the server at all? Again if for some reason you are not getting these messages then I guess I am “on my own”.

So… you’ll have the best luck if your bbPress 1.1 tables are in the same database as your current WordPress installation. Maybe try exporting those tables out of the other database, and importing them into the current one, and give it another shot.

Even more good information! Thank you. I would edit the documentation to let others know about this, but every time I try to log in to the codex site for BBpress, I get taken to the buddypress site.

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For what it is worth:

My tone is also one of frustration. BBPress is an awesome bit of code and you guys have spent a great deal of time making it do really awesome things, but as is the case with many opensource projects, no one seems to care if anyone can actually use the awesome product.

I am a part of a pretty big opensource community, and bad documentation is a systematic problem. People make amazing things then fail to help users actually use the code. I write lots of code that I end up releasing to that community. I spend a good bit of time making my documentation work for people who are newbies to using the program. I assume they picked up the program just to use my package/functionality and I write my help with that in mind. Why?, because I want them to use my code, I want them to learn about the program, and I eventually hope they will become a part of the community and contribute.

[SydneyDesigner]

I’m using the latest WP, BuddyPress and bbPress.

I have the new bbPress forums turning on and working nicely inside new BuddyPress groups (i.e. groups that I create now, since loading the new bbPress). But for existing BuddyPress groups there seems to be a problem. The group admin for existing groups still has the correct bbPress sub-page asking me to tick the box to set up a forum for that group, which I tick and it saves OK. But when I click on the “forum” tab in that group I just get the error message; “This group does not currently have any forums.”

How do I turn on forums in existing BuddyPress groups please?

[John James Jacoby]

Since I can’t see your forums at all, it’s impossible to be helpful. Private forums are for registered users only.

[John James Jacoby]

Revert back to a default WordPress theme. Update your permalinks.

[John James Jacoby]

It’s fine to be frustrated, but your tone towards the volunteers trying to help you is pretty crappy.

However, it is the sentiment one gets when trying to follow the BBpress’ documentation: (…)

If you don’t like the documentation, change it. It’s a WordPress site where everyone is an Editor, and you can be part of the solution just like every other volunteer, or you can be upset because the amazing free software you’re using isn’t as polished as we all know it could be. If only we had more volunteers… Paradox.

Which is it? Why are there two different ways? Is one applicable to one situation and the other to another?

We brought the old bbConverter into bbPress in 2.1. bbConverter development stopped, and I took it over and brought it into bbPress core along with several much needed fixes. Trying to use software that you know is abandoned and others have not succeeded with is generally a bad idea.

I am just told that the database does not exist. Well it does, I can log-in using myPhp and there it is.

The connection failure doesn’t provide the feedback you’re wishing for. There is no “your password was incorrect but the username is okay” level of feedback, so you’re on your own. Based on how capable and experienced you are, let’s assume it’s correct anyway. If the converter still can’t connect, the server can’t access the other server you’re trying to point it to.

So… you’ll have the best luck if your bbPress 1.1 tables are in the same database as your current WordPress installation. Maybe try exporting those tables out of the other database, and importing them into the current one, and give it another shot.

It’s worth adding, that while you say it’s an easy process, the data migration for bbPress.org took 8 hours, with 200k posts, 5 million users in the WordPress.org shared tables, and generous query limits and timeouts between them. The converter itself, works great.

I’m sorry you’re having trouble, and I’m confident you’ll figure it out.

[Archer117]

Update: After re-saving my forums settings, they have reverted to the first picture. They seem to be formatted like normal, empty pages.

[Archer117]

So I made the update to 2.2.1 (everything was working fine on 2.2), and the plugin successfully installed and activated. However, when I went to look at the forums, they looked like this

I deactivated bbpress and re-activated it, and now it gives a 404 page, like so

Direct links to posts go to wordpress “pages” with a stream of text.

Any ideas? Anyone else having this happen to them?

[bbuser12345]

Fair enough. If I have to pay someone more than $20 to use the provided migration wizard I will. (FWIW, on oDesk people are free to bid whatever they are willing to bid to do the project.) I have been trying this conversion on and off myself for about 6 months, I’d pay $100 if someone who knew what they were doing would help me out. (Why it would take anything like 20-40 hours for someone to figure out what I need to fill in on a web form in order to get the wizard to work is beyond me.)

This should be simple right? I have a BBpress standalone and I want to convert the database to be used by the plug-in. This is the simplest case. I know how to set everything up all I need to know is what set of magical things to put in the form fields to get the converter to actually work.

I know how to back up my database, and I use mySQL all the time in my daily work. I write programs for a living that access and analyze massive data bases. If I knew what needed to be done to the data base to make it work with the plug-in (that is what the wizard is doing under the hood) I could do the migration myself with an R script or something similar. However, there is no place where it is documented what needs to be done to convert the database.

The statement that: “Once you have the right tools and become relatively proficient, it’s actually pretty easy.” is tautological. However, it is the sentiment one gets when trying to follow the BBpress’ documentation: “If you already knew how to do this, here is how you would do this”.

Here are a few of the issues:

Half of the replies in the forums say to follow this plan:
https://codex.bbpress.org/import-forums/

The other replies say to use the plugin:
https://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/bbconverter/

Which is it? Why are there two different ways? Is one applicable to one situation and the other to another?

Of course neither will work for me (and many others apparently). The support page at http://bbconverter.com is dead and so there is no information there. The other page contains very sparse information about what one should put in the form fields.

***Here is the biggest issue. The console on the wizard does not give any information that would help you diagnose what step in the process has failed.

For example I just get:

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Please don’t forget to update your counters HERE

WordPress database error: [Table ‘databasebbpress.forums’ doesn’t exist]
SELECT convert(forums.forum_id USING “utf8”) AS forum_id,convert(forums.forum_parent USING “utf8”) AS forum_parent,convert(forums.forum_name USING “utf8”) AS forum_name,convert(forums.forum_slug USING “utf8”) AS forum_slug,convert(forums.forum_desc USING “utf8”) AS forum_desc,convert(forums.forum_order USING “utf8”) AS forum_order FROM forums AS forums LIMIT 0, 100

No forums to convert-
Not clearing default passwords-

Not Converting users Selected-

No data to clean-

Starting Conversion…

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I am left to wonder, is the problem logging in to the server?
If so:
Is the problem the server name?
Is the problem my password?
Is the problem my username?

Is the problem connecting to the database?
If so:
Is the problem the database name?
Is the problem a permission?
Is the problem my password?
Is the problem my username?

I am just told that the database does not exist. Well it does, I can log-in using myPhp and there it is.

I will continue to search for “the right tools” and to become more “proficient”. In the meantime I will continue to try to find someone who know enough about the guts of BBpress and WordPress to tell me why my database that does exist, does not exist in the eyes of the converter.

[Stephen Edgar]

Take a look around at http://www.ratsclan.com, this site is just WordPress and bbPress and as far as I can tell nothing in the ‘core’ of either bbPress or WordPress has been hacked.

It is a pretty good showcase site showing what can be done without killing kittens…

[c3eu5012]

Ok, so I found a conflict with two of my forums having the same order number and fixed it. So I changed everything back over to private and started testing it again that way. I’m still having the same problem, everytime I make a post in one of the forums under a category, all the forums under that category dissapear.

Now everything seemed to work fine when I had all the forums and categories set to public. Could this be a problem with private settings?

[Stephen Edgar]

Profile Shortcode? No such thing? https://codex.bbpress.org/shortcodes/ Maybe there should be?

[Stephen Edgar]

@radi_v Take a look at this https://github.com/nosecreek/Posts-to-bbPress

It is doing ‘Converts WordPress posts and comments to bbPress topics and replies.’

I haven’t looked closely at the code yet (possibility including this to the bbPress core ‘import tool’) though you may be able to tweak it to only do ‘comments’ to ‘replies’.

[Stephen Edgar]

– Backup your site and all your databases often during all these steps in case any step along the way you can revert back to a working site
– Upgrade your bbPress 1.1alpha to the final 1.1 release https://bbpress.org/download/legacy/ https://codex.bbpress.org/legacy/updating/
– Install bbPress 2.2x plugin to WordPress https://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/bbpress/
– Run the bbPress 2.x Tool ‘Import Forums’ to import your old forums https://codex.bbpress.org/import-forums/

[Stephen Edgar]

You wern’t using your wordpress.COM by any chance were you?

It should be the same as your user/pass for here at bbpress.org (Same as wordpress.org)

If no luck try resetting your password which might force everything to update for bbpress/wordpress.org sites.

[spwestwood]

Hi,

I’m upgrading my forum from a standalone installation to the newer wordpress plugin. The URL structure is a bit different:

Old bbPres (v1.03):
Main page: domain.com/forum
Forum pages: domain.com/forum/forum/{forum-name}
Subforum pages: domain.com/forum/forum/{forum-name}
Topic pages: domain.com/forum/topic/{topic-name}

New bbPress (v2.2.1)
Main page: domain.com/blog/forums
Forum page: domain.com/blog/forums/forum/{forum-name}
Sub-forum page: domain.com/blog/forums/forum/{parent-forum}/{forum-name}
Topic pages: domain.com/blog/forums/topic/{topic-name}

So the main issue I have is that the forum is now in the wordpress directory, whereas I’d rather it was outside. The other issue is that now sub-forums have the parent forum in the url.

I’d like to do two things:

-> Remove the /blog/ from the forums url
-> Redirect old sub-forums to the newer domains.

Does anyone know the htaccess/mod_rewrite to do this?

• This topic was modified 13 years, 8 months ago by spwestwood.

[c3eu5012]

Sorry about that, about half of the forums are public now. We are using the site to promote our group and the forums side of it is being used with the private settings so only our members can read them and use them for event planning and group conversations.

Now I have just upgraded to bbPress 2.2.1

The interesting thing is when I switched some of the forums over to public so you can see them, the forums in question showed up again.

I’m going to keep posting and playing with them, but any help you can offer would be great.
Thanks for you time!

[kannued]

Ran the check you suggested spwestwood, my second and third columns match. No problems there.

I know I had a lot of problems with anonymous spammers where I had to shut down the forum. The anonymous posters would not aim to post publicly but just to fill my recently moderated section with website links and marketing talk. Even though I had long ago deleted the anonymous poster file, the anonymous posters were still a problem internally, creating havoc.

[Jesse Aaron]

I’d like to have the forums base just be /, is that possible with bbpress?

For instance, say I have a forum category of ‘bears’ and the forums within it are ‘grizzly, brown, and polar’ and I’d like my URLs to be:

example.com/bears/grizzly
example.com/bears/brown
example.com/bears/polar

Similarly, another category might be ‘apes’, and I’d like URLs:

example.com/apes/gorillas
example.com/apes/bonobos
example.com/apes/chimpanzees

Right now the best I can do is:

example.com/forums/apes/gorillas, etc.

So I want to remove the ‘forums’ part completely.

Thanks for any help!

[spwestwood]

Hi Kannued,

There were 2 queries I posted. There needs to be 2 because previously in v1 bbPress had 2 seperate tables – one table for the initial topic post and then another table for the followup replies. All posts are now contained in wp_posts.

So the first query takes all the author ids from the forum topics and copies them across to the wp_posts table:

update wp_posts inner join bb_topics on wp_posts.post_title=bb_topics.topic_title set wp_posts.post_author = bb_topics.topic_poster

The second then does all the replies:

update wp_posts inner join bb_posts on bb_posts.post_time = wp_posts.post_date set wp_posts.post_author = bb_posts.poster_ id where wp_posts.post_author = ’1′

(This is a bit messier. The only way I found to match bb_posts to wp_posts was by the time the post was made. For some reason looking at the text of the actual post didn’t match. Perhaps there was an encoding difference or something.)

Before running either it might be a good idea to check you are getting the same error I have. If you run the following:

select topic_title,topic_poster,post_author from wp_posts inner join bb_topics on wp_posts.post_title=bb_topics.topic_title order by bb_topics.topic_id desc

This doesn’t make any changes. It shows you 3 columns: topic title / author in old bbpress / author in new bbpress.

For me the 3rd column was all 1s (which is my user id). So all I had to do was copy the second column across, which is what the 2 queries above do.

[kannued]

I agree John, it is a clever approach.

As John knows my problem is with Anonymous getting all the credit in posts. My wp_users are correct. The IP address link for each topic is correct. But the nickname assigned to the topics is incorrect. All plugins on bbpress 1.1 and wp 3.4.2 were deactivated before the migration/integration.

I think I need to try what spwestwood did. But my MySQL skills are limited. Do I use new query for each statement? Or do I run the first four statements in a new query?