[Rose]

I’m creating a website with WordPress and bbPress that needs a section where someone can fill out an application form (from a WordPress page) and that will create a new topic in bbPress with the info they filled in.

We decided that the easiest way would be to have the form data submitted straight into the bbPress database.

I experimented with phpmyadmin by adding new records with the correct info in bbposts, increased the post counts in bbtopics and finally used the post time I’d set in bbposts (post_time) with topic_time to update the ‘freshness’. I used phpmyadmin’s default date/time selector to replicate the records’ formatting correctly.

While the new post showed up perfectly and the post counts were correct, the freshness came up as being “-1 years”

I changed the code in front-page.php to the following as outlined by _ck_ :

<td class="num">" title="<?php echo date("r",strtotime($topic->topic_time)); ?>"><?php topic_time(); ?></td>

so that I could see what it was coming up with as the posted date and time. The results were… ‘interesting’ –

On mousing over the -1 years, I got the correct date and time.

On mousing over the correct freshness times of other posts I had made the same day, I got a date and time that seems to be 12 hours behind.

Here are the links to images outlining this:

-1 years freshness but correct date/time image

‘Normal’ freshness time but with wrong date/time image

Can someone please explain what is going wrong and if possible how to fix it or get around this problem with adding topics directly to the database. I’m starting to /facedesk so help would be much appreciated!!

[chang]

Hi,

The default bbpress post doesn’t have the Reply function… is there any plugins that have this feature?

I tried easy mention but it didn’t work at all

Thank you!

[chrishajer]

pagelines_localize()

That’s coming from your theme. Try switching to the default WordPress theme and see if the error is still present.

I can’t download a copy of the Pagelines theme, so can you post the lines from about 50 to 65 in this file:

/wp-content/themes/iblogpro4_dev/core/globals.php

At least from line 53 to line 61, but I suspect there may be some conditional around it and need to see the whole context. If you want, you can email me that file at chrishajer [at] gmail [dot] com as well. Looks like you will need to try and declare that function only if it isn’t already declared. This would be a modification to the WordPress theme file.

But, try the default WordPress theme and see if integration works, or gives another type of error.

[kevinjohngallagher]

Hi Korti,

The issue with captcha’s comes down to the fact that you’re asking users to prove they’re not spammers by a method only avalible to be answered by a percentage of your legitamate posters. It’s not their fault the software you chose (or, we’ve all chosen) can’t handle the spam.

The realism is, if you’re running 100 sites, you should have a moderation policy in place. With people/human moderators. No software system, ever in the history of the world, has stopped 100% of spam. Infact, none have even come close to catching 100% of spam.

It’s all about percentages, and putting systems in place to get the spam coming through down to a managable number. I agree that typing any 4 numbers into a box doesn’t take long or put people off, but that’s a massive over simplification.

Captcha’s don’t:

1) Make any difference to human spam

2) Work if the user is on an older browser

3) Work if the user has JavaScript turned off

4) Work is the user has Images turned off

5) Work on mobile devices (by and large)

6) Meet any accessability standards

7) look or work the same for people with sight issues. (and the audio captchas simply don’t work).

Work in RTL languages / displays

9) Work in non-latin based languages as default (arabic / manderin / cantonese)

10) Work without a mouse (if using a reCaptcha).

Percentage wise, that’s a HUGE HUGE HUGE percentage of the world right there.

As a Real World example: I’m currently onsite at a client’s campus running analystics and UX/IA for their new University enrolment system. Online enrolment is down just over 20% from this time last year (not a big worry), but failed registrations is up by over 400%. Number one reason: people failing the captcha.

Captcha instantly fixed it and I still get just as many emails from customers asking questions if not more

Maybe you’re getting more emails because people who are serious can’t use your form to post.

What about those that are serious, but after multiple attempts at using your captcha simply gave up.

I do not think an extra 10th of a second for a captcha code would make people go anywhere else

Its cool that you think that, but there is so much data out there that says otherwise.

We have almost 20 years of HCI data availible, and we know for a certainty that the percentage of users who complete registration/sign-in/posting drops at an alarming rate the longer the process goes on.

Have you ever noticed how captcha’s were everywhere in 2007, but are virtually no-where now?

I am in no way a “bad” moderator a busy one yes.

I don’t doubt that mate. Approx 100 sites? I couldn’t even begin to imagine.

Take Care.

[chrishajer]

It’s not available for download anywhere that I know of. There used to be themes around that look like it.

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/whoa#post-68290

[schummy2000]

Hi i want to get this theme (the bbpress.org page forum theme).

Anybody knows its name or where can i get it ?

Thanks !

[Coasters Today]

I deleted the default admin account on my WordPress site after I gave another user admin access. I just found that I can’t access my plugin menu or settings in the integrated bbpress forum with that user(not deep integration). I have access to the database so is there any way to make my admin user a key-master again? If not is there any way I can get access to those menus again?

Using Wp 3.0.1 and BBp 1.0.2

[_ck_]

Very nice work! Thanks for sharing it.

I love how you used the ability to only change certain files and let it fall back to the originals as the default. I don’t think many people realize you can do that.

[entrepreneurchic]

Never mind! I’m just going to create a separate database

[entrepreneurchic]

Yeah it happened to me earlier when I try to reinstall. However, I’m sharing this with my WordPress database. How to fix?

Thanks Chris!

[chrishajer]

Somewhere, you either called the folder “forums” or typed that in to the installer. I get redirected when I try accessing some things (like the stylesheet.)

If you have nothing of value there yet (no topics or replies) I would just reinstall and be sure your URL and directory have the same name in them (i.e. a folder called bbpress, and the URL has bbpress on the end.)

To reinstall, you will need to drop the bb_ tables from the database, otherwise you will get an error “bbPress is already installed.”

[entrepreneurchic]

Sorry, it should be /bbpress for both. BUT thats the weird thing, when I type in bbpress/bb-admin to access the admin, it takes me to the above URL.

[chrishajer]

How come you have bbpress in one URL and forums in the other? Did you specify the location as one, but actually have it in a folder called the other? Both the folder (directory) where you installed it, and the information in the installer need to be the same. I would suggest using forums in both places (because who cares what forum software runs there really, right?)

[entrepreneurchic]

I installed BBpress and this is how it came out…http://www.entrepreneurchic.com/bbpress/

And when I tried accessing the admin, I get 404

http://www.entrepreneurchic.com/forums/bb-login.php?re=/bbpress/bb-admin/

PLEASE HELP!

[kevinjohngallagher]

Hi John,

I don’t know why after all these years that there is a refusal to put a clear and defining sentace saying that this isn’t part of the default bbPress package. It casues so much confusion for new users.

bbPress is a totally separate standalone forum, that can integrate user sessions (login/log-out) with WordPress. Nothing more. Its important to keep that in mind because it’ll save alot of thinking from a wordpress point of view.

That said, theming bbPress is quite simple as long as you know 1 thing: bbPress won’t run WordPress commands/functions/API calls.

Copy your default bbPress theme (the rather lacking Kakumei), rename it both in folder and in the template information held in the style.css file contained within.

You now have your own bbPress theme. Congrats.

The next step is simply to copy/paste the HTML you want to replicate from your WordPress theme into your bbPress theme. If you’re not doing any special processing, I strongly suggest copy/pasting the loaded/outputed HTML from when you load your WordPress homepage in a browser.

If you want to copy/paste from your header.php file in your WordPress theme, remember and take out all of those pesky WordPress functions, and replace them with bbPress equivalent or hardcoded information.

If you’ve ever made your own WordPress theme, you’ll find bbPress follows a very similar path/structure.

Good Luck

[chrishajer]

Any theme file, yes. If the file is not present in your theme, the missing file from the default theme is used instead.

[chrishajer]

Copy the register.php from the bb-templates/kakumei/ folder into your theme folder. If you don’t have a theme file present in your theme, the file from the default theme is used. Since that’s happening now, go ahead and copy the register.php into your theme folder and make the modifications there.

[nickaster]

Interesting… so assuming my templates were default… where would I look for the code to add this? I can get in there and add it if I knew what it looked like.

[Marius-]

Oh

I wish all us other users could have it like this.

I view this support forum as sort of the default showcase for what bbpress is.

[_ck_]

While the WP backend is “pretty”, in WP it has to be because users are exposed to it for some crazy reason, and of course it breaks with the entire default theme of the site.

How much time do you spend in the admin section, does pretty really matter?

bbPress (standalone) solved the admin menu problem with users by making advanced profiles. Unfortunately bbPress (plugin) will revert right back to the WP problem.

That said, the admin section could be much more disconnected from the main program anyway, so it can be developed by different people at a different rate with different theme possibilities.

It might even be possible to “theme” the admin section like the regular site theme.

[_ck_]

Yes you can, easily.

I have a mini-plugin for this somewhere around here…

Here you go:

<?php

/*

Plugin Name: Delete Own Post

*/

function delete_own_post($retvalue,$capability,$args) {return ($capability=='delete_post') ? bb_current_user_can('edit_post',$args[1]) : $retvalue;}

add_filter('bb_current_user_can','delete_own_post',10,3);

?>

Note that they can only delete for as long as they can edit.

Meaning after the 1 hour default, no more delete.

But you can change the timeout in the admin settings.

[WP Realty]

I’ve installed an integrated WordPress 3.0 (NOT MU) and the latest BBPress. When users register with WP they can not add any reply or start a new post in the forums.

I tested this with the default unaltered theme and same thing.

Looking in the DB I see that each member is a “member” in WP but there is no BB_METAUSERS table for bbpress. I think this isn’t required when an integrated solution is installed.

Any idea why all new members are set to “Inactive”?

J

[RedBull]

Hello _ck_, thanks for the reply. Unfortunately this option is not working for me.

My steps were….MKDIR>my-plugins/>new folder>custom-registraton-email.php>copy and paste the plugin you provided>activated>still getting the same registration default email.

[deadlyhifi]

The plugin is Add bbPress Default Role. It’s three lines of code so you may be better just writing it into your functions.php file.

[_ck_]

WordPress today cannot run a live site without caching.

You’ll get kicked off any shared hosting in a heartbeat.

This is a HUGE regression because there are times when a page cannot be cached. I was looking at mashable the other day – it uses over ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY queries per page. It would be slaughtered without a super dooper amount of caching.

But bbPress 0.9 is fully capable of taking loads without any caching at all. I know of a few large sites that use it without any caching, it just doesn’t need it if properly configured until you get to slashdot level loads.

So in what fantasy world does anyone believe that adding the load of bbPress as a plugin to WordPress’s existing burden will ever make it faster than 0.9 ?

WP 3.0 already requires the increase of PHP’s default memory allocation per instance (over 32M in some cases). bbPress 0.9 runs in less than 1M (with a whole bunch of plugins at that).

If being more attractive to the WP masses was important, what should have been done is a project to make standalone bbPress’s integration with WP easier. Perhaps mimic WP’s template actions, etc. so WP templates could be used with less modification.

But like backPress, I’m afraid it’s probably too late.

I’m not saying this to be mean Matt, but the reality is Automattic is becoming a one-hit-wonder with everything being folded back into WordPress.

(and if a bbPress as plugin with WordPress backend goes down for any reason, failed upgrade, security hit, etc. now so will your forum)