This would not impact anything other than bbPress, it’s just a question of choosing one methodology to support pretty URLs.
MultiViews could still be enabled on the server, it’s just a question of whether bbPress uses it or not.
Mod_Rewrite is better for a couple of reasons. For a start it is better supported, and it is also a lot more flexible. We are thinking about running all requests through a single page (index.php) just like WordPress. This is called a front controller, and is not as easily achieved with MultiViews.
There is also the desire to reduce the amount of support traffic around this topic and standardising on one approach may help that.
I have wp and bbpress integrated, fresh installation.
To use avatars is it better to use a wordpress plugin? I tried avator upload, but no avators, nor upload links in profiles. Admin tab is there.
I’d like to be able to use the private message thing, will it work with the 2 integrated?
Thanks.
Can you clarify the impact of disabling MultiViews? Will this impact only bbPress content on a site, or do you need it turned off for the whole site?
I like to mix WordPress, bbPress, and plain content for some images, PDF manual downloads, etc., and really need content negotiation/MultiViews supported in directories outside of WP/bbPress.
And why is Mod_Rewrite better than MultiViews for bbPress?
@ blackidlabs
I think a new release of WPMU is imminent. You might want to hold off until it is released, or you can simply follow the same integration steps as for WP2.3 (installing required compatibility plugins)
If you have any issues, then ask here.
HowToGeek: I wonder if that’s really true. I’d like to believe it is, but I wonder if there are really hosts that allow the MultiViews directive in an .htaccess file, but don’t allow mod_rewrite. I’d like to believe it’s true so that MultiViews goes away and bbPress gets proper rewriting via mod_rewrite, the sooner the better. And have bbPress generate the rewrite rules then create or edit the .htaccess file automatically, just like WordPress, while you’re at it.
We could try to appeal to the mercy of whoever the current plug-in coders are. I’ve seen something at TextDrive where a group would donate some money into a pool for development purposes.
I think it’d be great if they added the “Ideas” feature here at bbPress like they have for WordPress also.
https://wordpress.org/extend/ideas/
Dreamhost does allow mod_rewrite. And technically they do support Multiviews, but as a .htaccess hack.
However. I remember having terrible trouble trying to configure BBPress to use Multiviews, because it appeared to work, but didn’t on certain pages. I ended up manually adding mod_rewrite.
As an aside, in automating anything like this, keep in mind that people like to do strange things with their directories. One of the annoyances of WordPress is that it assumes almost complete control of the layout of all directories below where it is installed.
Hi Sam,
youve been a great help so far. I was just going through the installation of bbpress. Now I have wpmu installed on my server http://www.blackidlabs.com. I wanted to integrate bbpress into it. I guess wpmu is in 2.3.3 stage as of now. So I wanted to ask you, should I go through the wordpress integration option which bbpress gives during the installation?
Thanks
Jyot
Maybe it’s because I’m not so knowledgeable about wikis, but I really wonder what you are talking about. I totally agree concerning the “simple, fast and elegant”. phpBB is far too complicated for example. But gimme a break please. I don’t need to be told what I need. WordPress is great for news publication, it’s understandable by my not so computer literate community and it even allows to attach documents to posts (albeit not to comments). Now I’m thinking about phase 2, which is the integration of a forum to the blog and the duplication of WordPress posts in a dedicated sub-forum through the bbPost plugin. These guys are scientists who need to communicate AND exchange documents. bbPress appeals to me because of the WordPress integration, BUT I need it to have attachment as a feature. And I don’t have the skills to add this feature. I don’t intend to be demanding. I have an idea what open source development can be. I just don’t want some geek zealot to tell me that my need is wrong just because it breaks his ideal of how his software idol should be…
Try putting this in your bb-config, it should rename those bbPress cookies for you:
$bb->usercookie = 'wordpressuser';
$bb->passcookie = 'wordpresspass';
.
You may also need to adjust the cookie domain and path, but try that first.
I installed bbPress on a directory called /discussions on the root of my hosting account, where I have also installed WordPress 2.5, everything on the installation went ok, but after all been done, the admin login to the dashboard gives me the following message:
You do not have sufficient permissions to access this page.
Any solution?
I for one would appreciate the possibility for registration approval. I’m currently involved in a zero budget project to launch a forum on a sports related website that runs WordPress as CMS, and registration approval seems to become the last thing we need to solve before choosing bbPress (over Vanilla.) In this scenario, a registration approval plugin for bbPress would naturally be very handy. (I don’t think we have skills to make our own plugin.)
For what the approval thing is needed, then? For example, Vanilla discussion forum uses registration approval in a way we would appreciate to copy for our project. The idea of people not registering an account but applying for one would suit our project really well. “Why do you want to join this forum?” is a question we would like people to answer before letting them post anything.
A Finnish online magazine covering ice hockey, Jatkoaika.com, has a forum that has grown into a lively discussion community for over 13,000 registered users without losing its, well, usefulness. It’s not only because of strict moderation of discussions, they require their users to apply for registration as well. Given that the topic is ice hockey (you know, that game with all the tackling and fighting and strong emotions) and most forum users are hockey fans (“We want blood!”) and male (“We want blood!”), we consider that a great role model for this forum project of ours, even though we don’t expect our forum to become as popular (and we are not about ice hockey.)
(In what comes to our project, we might still decide to NOT having approval for registration. There are advantages in also not having that, of course.)
Hi Sam, would this hold good to WPMU as well? I figure it is definitely not as up to date as WP.
I tried installing these plugins in bbPress but WordPress doesn’t seem to recognize that I am already logged into bbPress or vice versa.
When I look at the cookies, WPMU has just wordpresspass & wordpressuser set. The bbPress cookies look like wordpressuser_2c7… & wordpresspass_2c7..
This is with the two plugins installed and made to load with the underscore.
I will appreciate any help. Thanks!
Horrorshow said >>>
Also, I added the “cookiedomain” to the config.php
Here’s the full list relevant to the integration.
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There is no config.php file. What file are you talking about? Do you mean wp-config.php in WordPress? If I’m using WPMU, where would these changes go?
Could you post the entire procedure for integrating bbPress with WPMU?
Thanks!
Ahh, no, that’s because I’m running WordPress MU, which seems to have a thing where if the page doesn’t exist then it gives the option to register it as a username.
Right, I see that you don’t have permalinks on.
Do you have access to server logs where you can see what is happening with those requests? At the very least, I should be able to log in. That makes two problems (yours and this logging in one.)
Also, what does that first rewrite rule do? Just curious, I’ve never seen it before.
How about caching? Is it possible WordPress caching is causing your trouble?
Hi, I’m currently having a similar problem. Having just upgraded to the new version of bbPress and taking advantage of it’s automated WordPress integration. However upon completing this I found I couldn’t access the admin panel.
I removed the bb-config.php file and ran through the installation again, leaving out the sections relating to WordPress integration. However I still cannot access the administrative panel.
I’ve tried some of the recommendations around the forum such as this, but to no avail.
Ideas? Feedback appreciated.
I don’t have pretty permalinks on. I don’t have an .htaccess file in the bbpress install. My root .htaccess is this
php_flag register_globals off
RewriteRule ^([0-9]{4})/([0-9]{1,2})/([0-9]{1,2})/([^/]+)/print/?$ /wp-print.php?year=$1&monthnum=$2&day=$3&name=$4 [QSA,L]
# BEGIN WordPress
<IfModule mod_rewrite.c>
RewriteEngine On
RewriteBase /
RewriteCond %{HTTP_COOKIE} !^.*comment_author_.*$
RewriteCond %{HTTP_COOKIE} !^.*wordpressuser.*$
RewriteCond %{HTTP_COOKIE} !^.*wp-postpass_.*$
RewriteCond %{HTTP:Accept-Encoding} gzip
RewriteCond %{DOCUMENT_ROOT}/wordpress/wp-content/cache/supercache/%{HTTP_HOST}/$1index.html.gz -f
RewriteRule ^(.*) /wordpress/wp-content/cache/supercache/%{HTTP_HOST}/$1index.html.gz [L]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_COOKIE} !^.*comment_author_.*$
RewriteCond %{HTTP_COOKIE} !^.*wordpressuser.*$
RewriteCond %{HTTP_COOKIE} !^.*wp-postpass_.*$
RewriteCond %{DOCUMENT_ROOT}/wp-content/cache/supercache/%{HTTP_HOST}/$1index.html -f
RewriteRule ^(.*) /wp-content/cache/supercache/%{HTTP_HOST}/$1index.html [L]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
RewriteRule . /index.php [L]
</IfModule>
# END WordPress
<Files 403.shtml>
order allow,deny
allow from all
</Files>
#AddHandler php5-script .php
bbPress needs the internal rewrite engine that WordPress has.
Multiviews is unreliable and availability is inconsistent.
This looks great! Thank you.
Now if we can get WP-Grins converted to bbPress, we’d have clickable smilies…
https://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wp-grins/
One of the major stumbling blocks for implementation of permalinks is the creation of the .htaccess file.
There is at least one ticket requesting automation of the creation process via the admin area of bbPress (just like WordPress does). But the problem with that is that we support both the “MultiViews” and “mod_rewrite” methods of creating permalinks.
In light of this and some other problems with “MultiViews” I’d like to gauge the possibility of dropping “MultiViews” support in favour of “mod_rewrite”.
What do you all think? Do you use “MultiViews” or “mod_rewrite”? Why? Would you really miss “MultiViews” support?
Hey,
Just wanted to mention that I have released a matching WordPress theme, just in case anyone is using Peacemaker for bbPress. 
You can download it here.
UPDATE!!
Figured out a way to integrate WordPress smileys into bbPress. Use this plugin!
http://pastebin.com/f411dfe2a
OK, I found the problem. I had jumped ahead and installed the .htaccess file for pretty permalinks. This prevented the installer from running.
But now I’ve got an ugly long URL because I installed it under ../WordPress/
How do I reconfigure bbPress so that I can make the forum
http://www.paara.org/forum/
instead of
http://www.paara.org/WordPress/bbPress/
?
I installed bbPress in http://paara.org/forum/ because that’s what I wanted the URL of the forum to be, and the installation instructions didn’t indicate any preference for where.
Just one blog, with the WP files at http://paara.org/WordPress/ but with the public URL being simply http://paara.org/, as described in https://codex.wordpress.org/Giving_WordPress_Its_Own_Directory
And after moving the bbPress directories to http://paara.org/WordPress/bbPress/, I still can’t get the install to run, or anything but the “no content” message to appear.
What am I missing?
