[Anonymous User]

Hi all,

my first test shows that the trunk version of bbPress breaks ‘BB Anonymous Posting’, ‘Post Meta for bbPress’, ‘Human Test for bbPress’ and ‘bbPress-WordPress syncronization’.

And the new “Login-Less Posting” doen’t work in my installation.

So I will do more testing tomorrow …

[Anonymous User]

Hi Chris,

thanks for your answer. I’ll try testing this weekend.

But I think I must test the Login-Less Posting on my localhost before switching the function on my real forum at http://www.mysteria3000.de/forum

Markus

[devpaq]

Is there any way to set all posts to be held for moderation? I don’t want any posts to show up without being approved first (similar to the comments feature on WP).

I was using the plugin BB Moderation Hold (0.4.1) before I upgraded, but it doesn’t seem to work with the latest version of BB.

Thanks.

[Gautam]

We don’t do beta testing at BBpress.

Who said? We had alphas and betas for 1.0.

[bobtheman]

thanks for your reply kevin, the reasons of why bbpress should be a plugin was briefly discussed above in the topic, having bbpress contingent on wordpress belittles bbpress and strangles its ability to develope as an open source project.

1. As already addressed, the majority of people talking about integration, plugin, wordrpess .. if we took a long hard look arnt talking about it because they want bbpress to be a plugin, they just want some form of integration and use those terms interchangeably… very lossly might i add.

2. We are still an opensource project and the community matters. its up to the PM’s to get the community as a whole involved with submitting tickets, testing beta versions and getting interests in programing “recruiting”

3. its obvious people dont like the bbpress as a plugin idea, and when the team no matter who it is decides in disregard of the community it will show in the contributions.. case and point. The bbpress project doesn’t technically need funding from automattic “it would be nice though” .. because an opensource project like this should be able to develop a business plan and project plan and flourish as all other opensource projects do.

4. You’ve addressed why in your opinion we can change anything and our “votes” dont count. Congratulations… but you forgot to give your opinion and viewpoint on the topic at question.

oh yeah… there are programmers that can contribute to the project hiding amongst us

[johnhiler]

It’s not so hard to integrate WordPress with bbPress 0.9. Although I do think you’re right that it’s easier to integrate WordPress and bbPress if you’re using the latest versions of both.

[kevinjohngallagher]

An extremely, over exaggerated word that has been used to change the developmental focus of bbpress is Integration.

You’ve totally got this wrong bobtheman mate.

WordPress Integration is the most used phrase on this board, and the most used tag. It’s also a feature, listed in the features page. It’s also why alot of people came to this project. If it’s not something you want, cool, but it is something the majority want.

1. Single Signon

2. Single Theme

3. Admin panel they recognise

This is mostly what people want. We know this thanks to metrics, tags, being here for 2 years, and at least 50% of support requests fall into this category. At the end of the day it comes down to this:

If you don’t care about WordPress Integration use BBpress 0.9.

It’s awesome, fast, easy to theme, and miles better than the hatched testing ground for BackPress that 1.0.2 is.

If you do care about WordPress integration use BBpress 1.0.2

It’s ridiculously convoluted to set up, with more pitfalls than an Indiana Jones movie, but once working it’s ok.

If you don’t want BBpress to become a WordPress plugin, buy out Automattic. Or, and this is the biggie, give [the project owner] good objective reasons as to why it would be beneficial for them in the long run. Otherwise, you’re as well adding “Waaaaahhhhhhhhhh >.<” to the end of every sentence. Because that is what it sounds like to [the project owner].

To end this chapter of confusion and to get bbpress back on trac, on February 14 I propose a IRC meeting which will follow with a blog post of the results with a roadmap for the future

I know we’re all geeks, but cant we pretend like Feb14th might actually see us doing something else? I’m confident i’ll lose what’s left of my genitalia if I tell my partner that i’m not taking her to Paris so we can do an IRC chat.

[kevinjohngallagher]

I’m a big fan of people speaking their mind, I probably do it too often, but if we’re being honest, threads like these aren’t going to change anything. Even if you got 90% of the people that are on these boards to all come out and say that they agree with you, nothing will change.

Can we talk openly about this? It means sharing some hard truths…

1) There are roughly (roughly), 25 -30 different people that post on these forums every week. I’m sure you’ve noticed its the same folks for the most part over and over. Each of these people (you and I) represent a tiny tiny portion of the BBpress users. Its not that your opinions aren’t valued, it’s just that unless you come up with objective reasons behind your arguments then you’ll never see any changes you want.

2) You’re not programmers. Harsh, i know. But you’re on a support forum saying that you’re unhappy about proposed changes to free software that you don’t contribute to.

3) When did private companies start listening to people taking “votes” on their support forums. Oh, that’s right, never.

4) I’m going to make an assumption here (apologies if wrong), but you’re not project managers or BA’s either. Making BBpress a WordPress plugin (while not something i am happy with at all), makes sense from [the company that owns bbpress] stand point.

5) Matt, et all, are human and just trying to do their best. If you think they’ve overlooked a point then tell them. But it has to be a point that will make sense to a company like [the one that owns bbpress], and that rarely involves the phrase “i want” or “my vote”.

Look folks,

BBpress as a WordPress plugin is not going to come around any time soon. In honesty, it’s not going to be this year. if you don’t want a forum software that is focussed on integration with WordPress that’s cool, that’s a personal preference, but have a look on the tag list on the home page, and see what stands out.

WordPress integration is the single most talked about issue on the BBpress support forums because it’s the reason that a large percentage of people came to BBpress for.

We all have a different Wish List of features for this lovely piece of software, but that doesn’t mean that if BBpress doesn’t go our own personal way that it it’s “bbpress back on track”. if we’re honest, BBpress hasn’t been “on track” by it’s own standards for well over a year, but if you’re not contributing code or testing time, then frankly, your opinion is never really going to count for anything unless you back your points up with really really good objective reasons.

[chrishajer]

I think you will be a good tester. You can add your experience here:

https://trac.bbpress.org/ticket/1244

I thought there was another ticket too but I cannot find it right now.

[Anonymous User]

Hello together,

i’ve just updated my installation of bbpress 1.0.2 to the trunk version 1.1-alpha. In the trunk version there is an new option called “Login-less Posting”.

Has anyone tested these function? Is it possible the change without problems from the plugin “Anonymous Posting” to the new core function?

Markus

[kevinjohngallagher]

Yo Gautam,

No tickets with patches should have been changed, 90% sure i checked for them all – really sorry if one slipped through.

Bugs on the other hand, I was selective about the reality of getting them fixed. Take Ticket 215: Post count bug as an example:

• Is it a bug? Yes
• Does it stop BBpress working in any way? No.
• Will it sap development time from getting this release out the door? Possibly.
• So I moved it

I’m definitely not in charge around here, so please, if I’ve moved something you (or anyone else) thinks should be in this Milestone, then please move them back. It’s just that smilies, youtube support etc. had been sitting there for weeks on end. With less fluff in trac for each milestone, hopefully we can get more people interested in testing (as one of the major gripes i hear often is “i don’t know where to start”).

Lets hope we get some of the patches in soon

[kevinjohngallagher]

Hi Matt,

It really is amazing that you’re helping out with BBpress, it’s clearly something you love as much as we do, and we desperately try not to sound ungrateful.

The issue is that when there is no project management, then it’s a bit like herding cats (to quote Jane @ WordPress ;-] ). We all know and apprecaite that you’re busy and that BBpress is going to take a back seat sometimes, that’s to be expected mate. But you can’t have it both ways.

You can’t have a project where the project lead, lead developer, decision maker and talisman disappears for weeks on end; and then also seem unhappy when that doesn’t go down well.

Can you imagine if you released a version of WordPress without beta testing, bulked up the code by 50%, made it 50% slower, broke most plugins, didn’t have any documentation, had all the development team quit, have all bar 1 moderator quit, then leave it for 8 months not entirely working… What sort of response would there be on the WordPress forums? Maybe a bit Chicken Little.

Matt, i’m not a popular guy around here, my french/celtic phrasing winds people up when it’s not my intention at all, trult i apologise if I’ve done that with yourself too. But you’re looking at this from someone who’s been really involved since November, while those of us who’ve been here through 0.9 and 1.02 have a different very viewpoint.

Matt, you have WP3.0, the WPfoundation, maybe BuddyPress1.2, WPcamps, travel, as well as the normal day to day stuff to deal with. Man, we know you’re hella busy and we appreciate your time. But maybe you have to manage expectations a little here. Set some dates, say some hard truths, y’know, actual information “Relax. We’ve done this before” is probably the scariest thing i’ve read on the BBpress forum.

We greatly apprecaite your time mate, maybe you could apprecaite ours by giving us a heads up every now and then, rather than after the fact. Some clever soul built a blogging platform to make it easy to post info on

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There is no date because it’s hard for me to predict how much time I have

-Matt

Versus.

“We take a page from the world of project management and we make a project plan before we jump into the dev cycle…and set a realistic release date that we stick to”

– https://wordpress.org/development/2009/12/setting-scope/

Take Care everyone.

[Gautam]

@matt

If you would like to contribute to 1.1, please test the two major feature additions to 1.1 and submit patches for improvements and/or bug fixes to those features.

There are dozens of patches lying in the trac which are not being implemented (maybe because of lack of attention/lead developer). And when any major commit is made, patches become out-of-date, so they should be added now. Many of them are bugs which really need to be fixed.

[sweetiessecret]

Hello,

I had someone setup the BBPress Forum integration with my WP blog. I have it setup as a private Forum. It was all working until mid December.

Now I get database connection errors and it lags a lot. Sometimes you click on something and it will fly through to the next page like it is supposed to work and other times it just sits there and it eventually times out and gives just a blank screen or you get that Database Connection error like this

“ERROR: Could not establish a database connection”

I am using GoDaddy with a Deluxe hosting account. I don’t have a huge amount of readers on the site but they are there most of the day. Still I believe my hosting account should be able to handle this setup.

I have contacted GoDaddy everyday for the last 2 weeks. They said that I have two separate databases, one for the blog and one for the BBPress install so there shouldn’t be any strain on the databases. They also test their server everytime I call and don’t see anything significant. I upgraded the account to get more simultaneous connections.

I also installed WP Super Cache to help and that did nothing.

I also had someone working on the problem and he can’t find anything on my side.

Maybe there is some setup incorrect on my site?

Has anyone had this problem who could help?

Wendy

[Matt Mullenweg]

“Even reading the blog, irc and this forum – it’s still unclear to me what should be worked on for the next release.”

Please read them again. In summary: 1.1 release will include email notifications and anonymous posting, both of which are in trunk and would appreciate testing and patches. After that it’s bug fixes, and release.

If you would like to contribute to 1.1, please test the two major feature additions to 1.1 and submit patches for improvements and/or bug fixes to those features.

There is no date because it’s hard for me to predict how much time I have.

[LizFilardi]

Hi:

I discovered an issue that I just wanted to share:

I installed bbpress in a subdirectory of WordPress without integrating. I used a new database and did not touch cookie integration. There are no plugins or content, as this installation is just for building a new child theme.

My WordPress child theme was designed using the Thematic theme framework. Now, I’m trying to design a bbPress child theme with the Hybrid theme framework.

However, my bbpress child theme will only refer to my WordPress Thematic child theme stylesheets in a completely different directory. This was even true when I tried to hardcode the @import lines in the bbpress child theme functions.php file.

I don’t know the solution, here, but thought I’d share for anyone else. If you want to test a child theme on your server, make sure you don’t install bbpress in a subdirectory of WordPress. I don’t know yet if it will work when I integrate WordPress and bbPress, but I assume it does since so many have already done that.

[chrishajer]

Email notifications are built in to the latest trunk version. You can “subscribe to topic” here, for example, and you will get an email when there is a reply to your post. It requires the manual step of you actually subscribing. There were also plugins to enable this in older versions, to email you when someone replied to a favorite of yours.

[James Kirk]

I can confirm that I’ve just had the similar scenario play out with the latest version 1.02 and also received the email not sent, failed to install message.

I popped into the bb_forums table, and added the actual data that I wanted for that first thread, and viola, the site comes up like a clickety clack.

Thanks for the insight!

[mzimmers]

Now, for something really cool…is there some magic php code that will let us test for whether we’re executing bbpress or wordpress, and make this function call conditional? Like:

if (we’re under the wordpress directory)

get_bloginfo(etc)

else if (we’re under the bbpress directory)

bb_get_option(etc)

end if

This would be extremely helpful in developing robust modules that are used by both wp and bbpress.

Thanks!

[Marius-]

Chrishajer thank you. I somehow managed to completely ignore that button. Dont know why. I have deleted him now.

[Gautam]

Here is a patch posted by me to mass-delete users, you may use it – https://trac.bbpress.org/ticket/1202

[chrishajer]

Marius- when I am using 1.0.2, and I view the profile of a user when logged in as keymaster, I have a “Delete User” button on the bottom of their profile page. Do you not have that? That’s how I delete a user if I have to (which almost never happens these days.)

Screenshot: http://twitpic.com/11zdpu/full

In addition to deleting them, you could just set their status to “inactive” as well, also on their profile page.

[johnhiler]

You should be able to block the user without any plugins…

[Marius-]

Chrishajer, what you mean just delete him in the admin?

There is no way to delete users in bbpress.

Not without mass delete plugin, which i had to delete, because it screwed up my forum.

[chrishajer]

Marius- – to remove him, just delete him in the admin.