[John James Jacoby]

I am definitely outside of your immediate circle, and am running the bbPress plugin over at testbp.org/discussion. A site with over 22k subscribed users that are able to post in those forums with no issues.

Not saying there isn’t a bug somewhere, just saying it hasn’t manifested itself on my installs yet.

Also, the bug isn’t in WordPress 3.1, or 3.2. It’s probably in how I’m handling the query differences between the two versions, as some of the advanced meta type queries are being fine-tuned.

[tooltrainer]

It does appear that way at first glance, but can you confirm the problem on 3.1 yourself? I still have a hard time believing that there is an actual bug with 3.1, and yet I’m the only person to have seen it. I’m just not that lucky.

The tester in me wants to see some corroboration from someone outside my immediate circle, of the issue I’m seeing.

Anyone?

Jonathan

[tooltrainer]

It does appear that way at first glance, but can you confirm the problem on 3.1 yourself? I still have a hard time believing that there is an actual bug with 3.1, and yet I’m the only person to have seen it. I’m just not that lucky.

The tester in me wants to see some corroboration from someone outside my immediate circle, of the issue I’m seeing.

Anyone?

Jonathan

[tooltrainer]

VERY interesting additional data!!

1. I have a programmer in Pakistan (I’m in California), and she sees the identical bad behavior on her local machine using WP 3.1.2.

2. I remotely accessed a computer at another location and used it to download and install a fresh copy of the bbP Plugin, thinking maybe by some totally bizarre circumstance it had something to do with my local machine (virus, who knows what). No change at all, still can’t create topics.

3. Programmer tried WP3.2b1 on her local machine, same problem, identical in every way.

4. I tried WP3.2b1 on my server (same one I’ve been using this whole time) and…

IT WORKS!!!!

http://cloudsharehost.com/wp3.2/forums/

user & password of “test”. User is a normal subscriber and can post topics as expected.

NO problem whatsoever.

This was using https://wordpress.org/wordpress-3.2-beta1.zip

Identical install process of 3147 bbP plugin. NO change at all.

So what does this tell us??? I really have no idea but I’m hoping someone else does.

Jonathan

[tooltrainer]

VERY interesting additional data!!

1. I have a programmer in Pakistan (I’m in California), and she sees the identical bad behavior on her local machine using WP 3.1.2.

2. I remotely accessed a computer at another location and used it to download and install a fresh copy of the bbP Plugin, thinking maybe by some totally bizarre circumstance it had something to do with my local machine (virus, who knows what). No change at all, still can’t create topics.

3. Programmer tried WP3.2b1 on her local machine, same problem, identical in every way.

4. I tried WP3.2b1 on my server (same one I’ve been using this whole time) and…

IT WORKS!!!!

http://cloudsharehost.com/wp3.2/forums/

user & password of “test”. User is a normal subscriber and can post topics as expected.

NO problem whatsoever.

This was using https://wordpress.org/wordpress-3.2-beta1.zip

Identical install process of 3147 bbP plugin. NO change at all.

So what does this tell us??? I really have no idea but I’m hoping someone else does.

Jonathan

[John James Jacoby]

What about deactivating and reactivating bbPress? It sounds like your caps aren’t being applied correctly.

To be clear, there are subscribers posting over at testbp.org/discussion perfectly fine, and it’s running exactly the same code you are. Your video was helpful, and it’s really odd that it’s happening for you like that.

What versions of WordPress are you using? I suppose it’s possible it’s a WordPress 3.1 issue, since I’ve moved on to testing with WP3.2 the past two weeks or so. I’ll revert back to 3.1 and see if that changes anything.

[John James Jacoby]

What about deactivating and reactivating bbPress? It sounds like your caps aren’t being applied correctly.

To be clear, there are subscribers posting over at testbp.org/discussion perfectly fine, and it’s running exactly the same code you are. Your video was helpful, and it’s really odd that it’s happening for you like that.

What versions of WordPress are you using? I suppose it’s possible it’s a WordPress 3.1 issue, since I’ve moved on to testing with WP3.2 the past two weeks or so. I’ll revert back to 3.1 and see if that changes anything.

[John James Jacoby]

@tooltrainer – As a bit of advice, these forums don’t have enough traffic to necessitate bumping your topic after only an hour or two of no response. It’s also really draining to read really long replies that only repeat your frustrations instead of providing any more insight. I can tell this is something you’re experiencing and obviously very passionate about, but no one else has experienced this so far. Remember this is *prerelease* software. If you’re relying on it to function 100% correctly all the time on a live site, then you’re breaking rules #1 and #2 of test-club.

If it’s a bug, then it will get fixed. If you have access to IRC and want more personal, live help, join #bbpress on freenode and I can try to help you there when we’re both around.

It sounds like it’s a permalink problem. Go to Admin > Settings > Forums and resave your settings. Let me know if that fixes it?

[John James Jacoby]

@tooltrainer – As a bit of advice, these forums don’t have enough traffic to necessitate bumping your topic after only an hour or two of no response. It’s also really draining to read really long replies that only repeat your frustrations instead of providing any more insight. I can tell this is something you’re experiencing and obviously very passionate about, but no one else has experienced this so far. Remember this is *prerelease* software. If you’re relying on it to function 100% correctly all the time on a live site, then you’re breaking rules #1 and #2 of test-club.

If it’s a bug, then it will get fixed. If you have access to IRC and want more personal, live help, join #bbpress on freenode and I can try to help you there when we’re both around.

It sounds like it’s a permalink problem. Go to Admin > Settings > Forums and resave your settings. Let me know if that fixes it?

[Rick Lewis]

@anointed it does not work with bp group forums. I learned this from testing and breaking everything twice. Then JJJ confirmed earlier in this post when iasked about it.

I had setup groups with forums and integrated with bbpress. Work and looked nice. Converted by vbulletin sitr to phpbb the bbpress. Destroyed my integrated group forums and while all the data and users were there it looked terrible. No category structure at all. It also deleted all my WP users with the imported ones. Locked me out from admin as well. Not fun.

Since that I did it two other times with minor changes in how I did it and knowing what was goint to happen. I got the groups back working which for me is something I want for the groups. The forum will be a seperate componet once I get a handle on how to modify the phpbb to bbpress converter. I need it ti not import users. Or do so without killing my wp users.

Cleaning the forum data prio to import is also on the list. Once done I will use bbp to bbpress converter to make the final connection. That is where I am now with trying figure out the plugin and conversion process.

I actually tried converting bbpress to bbp with the integrated group forums. Got a page of notices and errors that could fill a novel. Surely I didn’t do it correctly as well as various other factors.

If we get a little guidance on the category and overall flow of things it will be helpful. I personally can wait to see this thing working on my site as some vbulletin reps were not very kind when I mentioned my move 6 months a go. They said you will never get your data moved and if you did it will never be as good.

My site is not even close to being up to par but is already better thab it was.

[answerthink]

I have activated the Forum Last Poster plugin in order to add the freshness column to the Forums table. Can anyone help me to make the following modifications?

– If the forum is empty (or if it is a category), I would like it not to show anything.

– Rather than show the freshness, I would like it to show the actual time/date.

– I would, of course, like it to show the correct time/date. I say this because I modified the Latest Discussions code to show the exact date, and the time zone is off by 4 hours. (I imagine the answer might be to make some modifications to the options-general.php file in bb-admin, but none seem to be working for me.)

Here below is my code as currently written (which shows the last poster and the freshness together):

<td class=”num”>by “><?php forum_last_poster(); ?>
on <?php forum_time(); ?></br></td>

---

I have also activated both the My Views and bb Topic Views plugins in trying to get a “Views” column in my Forums table.

I then inserted: <th><?php _e(‘Views’); ?></th> into the front-page.php file to add the column.

Finally, I added: <td class=”num”><?php echo $forum->views; ?></td> in the appropriate place in order to count the views.

But the View column in the table is blank. Can anyone help?

Thanks.

[tooltrainer]

I see from the bug closure, how one aspect of it is an orphaned post problem.

And I totally understand that there are possible situations where that could happen.

But I’m seeing that users can NEVER post topics, period, at all. Ever. How is it possible that bbP could be used by anyone if this was the case?

It’s not that they can post topics, and occasionally they get orphaned. Users are greeted with the “Sorry you can’t create topics” error at all times, in all forums, no matter what.

Sure I noticed a semi-workaround by using the admin bar, which resulted in the orphaned topics.

But that isn’t what the bug was originally about. The point was that users are plain & simply not permitted to create topics via the normal forum interface.

What’s even more confusing to me, is that this was working fine about 3 updates ago (updates for me, there have been numerous builds between then and now). I don’t know exactly when the problem started happening because I wasn’t testing for that specific functionality for a little while. All I know is that a week ago I could post topics without any issue, as a subscriber level user. And now I can’t.

This is a complete and total loss of usability of the bbP plugin, and I don’t see anyone else complaining of it so this problem must just be happening to me… and yet I can reproduce the bad behavior on multiple clean installs on multiple servers.

Forgive my frustration please, I haven’t gotten much sleep in the last couple weeks and problems like this that simply make no sense, are keeping me from making actual progress on the most critical component of my site – the forum. Right now, users can simply not use it at all, which will be very very bad for me.

So I’m appealing for some help, advice, pointers – anything! I just have no idea what to do, to get something as simple as user topic creation, working again. I love the bbP plugin and it’s the only forum solution I want to use, but obviously it’s gotta work!

Thanks,

Jonathan

[tooltrainer]

I see from the bug closure, how one aspect of it is an orphaned post problem.

And I totally understand that there are possible situations where that could happen.

But I’m seeing that users can NEVER post topics, period, at all. Ever. How is it possible that bbP could be used by anyone if this was the case?

It’s not that they can post topics, and occasionally they get orphaned. Users are greeted with the “Sorry you can’t create topics” error at all times, in all forums, no matter what.

Sure I noticed a semi-workaround by using the admin bar, which resulted in the orphaned topics.

But that isn’t what the bug was originally about. The point was that users are plain & simply not permitted to create topics via the normal forum interface.

What’s even more confusing to me, is that this was working fine about 3 updates ago (updates for me, there have been numerous builds between then and now). I don’t know exactly when the problem started happening because I wasn’t testing for that specific functionality for a little while. All I know is that a week ago I could post topics without any issue, as a subscriber level user. And now I can’t.

This is a complete and total loss of usability of the bbP plugin, and I don’t see anyone else complaining of it so this problem must just be happening to me… and yet I can reproduce the bad behavior on multiple clean installs on multiple servers.

Forgive my frustration please, I haven’t gotten much sleep in the last couple weeks and problems like this that simply make no sense, are keeping me from making actual progress on the most critical component of my site – the forum. Right now, users can simply not use it at all, which will be very very bad for me.

So I’m appealing for some help, advice, pointers – anything! I just have no idea what to do, to get something as simple as user topic creation, working again. I love the bbP plugin and it’s the only forum solution I want to use, but obviously it’s gotta work!

Thanks,

Jonathan

[tooltrainer]

Just to make sure, I just installed on another copy of WP on a totally different server… stock everything, no other plugins or themes, etc. 100% original WP and bbP code.

Same problem, users with role < admin cannot create topics, no matter what.

Here is the test install:

http://cloudsharehost.com/test/forums/

feel free to log in as user test, password test

I’m really at a loss here, my coder and I are totally dead in the water right now without a solution to this.

Jonathan

[tooltrainer]

Just to make sure, I just installed on another copy of WP on a totally different server… stock everything, no other plugins or themes, etc. 100% original WP and bbP code.

Same problem, users with role < admin cannot create topics, no matter what.

Here is the test install:

http://cloudsharehost.com/test/forums/

feel free to log in as user test, password test

I’m really at a loss here, my coder and I are totally dead in the water right now without a solution to this.

Jonathan

[John James Jacoby]

Correct: alpha, beta, stable. Here at bbpress.org, we’re still running the stand-alone installation of bbPress. We are (kind of) following my own advice and not running pre-release software on a live environment. Instead, we’re running the latest trunk version of bbPress stand-alone which will eventually be 1.1.

It’s complicated.

All you need to know, is the plugin version sounds like it’s exactly what you want, and it is only a few days away from being a public alpha.

[John James Jacoby]

Correct: alpha, beta, stable. Here at bbpress.org, we’re still running the stand-alone installation of bbPress. We are (kind of) following my own advice and not running pre-release software on a live environment. Instead, we’re running the latest trunk version of bbPress stand-alone which will eventually be 1.1.

It’s complicated.

All you need to know, is the plugin version sounds like it’s exactly what you want, and it is only a few days away from being a public alpha.

[Daily Anarchist]

But the plugin will? That’s impressive! I can’t wait until the plugin comes out. I just installed a test bbpress on a dummy site to see how it looks. It’s pretty smooth. I really think bbpress has the potential to dominate the forum industry if people get behind it like they do WordPress.

You’re running the alpha version now, correct? Then comes the Beta and then the stable?

[Daily Anarchist]

But the plugin will? That’s impressive! I can’t wait until the plugin comes out. I just installed a test bbpress on a dummy site to see how it looks. It’s pretty smooth. I really think bbpress has the potential to dominate the forum industry if people get behind it like they do WordPress.

You’re running the alpha version now, correct? Then comes the Beta and then the stable?

[tooltrainer]

I began posting here:

http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/bbpress-plugin-updates/page/27?replies=793#post-87320

Still don’t know what’s going on, but I’m wondering if it’s related to running one copy of WP underneath another. My setup is:

webroot/ (production site is here with bbP active and working)

webroot/new/ (test site is here where bbP does not want to work)

‘new’ is just that – brand new 3.1.2 WP install with vanilla everything. But bbP simply will not work within it no matter what I try. If I have permalinks on default, any visit to domain.com/new/forums/ redirects me to domain.com/forums/ and if I set permalinks to /%postnam3%/ then I just get a 404 error with any request for /new/forums/.

Don’t know what else to try. In the other thread, Ryan also found the problem with permalinks, but not the other problem. This is why I’m wondering if it’s related to having 2 installs, one below the other.

Can anyone confirm/deny that this kind of setup doesn’t work?

Thanks!

Jonathan

[tooltrainer]

OK I’m seriously stumped now. I just blew away my copy of WP an installed a totally fresh one, updated to 3.1.2, in a subdirectory called “new”. Uploaded latest bbp 3145 and activated it. Created a forum, tried to visit /new/forums/ and was immediately redirected to domain.com/forums/ instead of ending up at domain.com/new/forums/ as expected. Is this a bug of having bbp in a subdirectory?

So I changed my permalinks again to /%postname%/ and now I’m not redirected anywhere unexpected, but when I end up at /new/forums/ I get the same page not found error.

This is using the included 2010 bbP theme and stock EVERYTHING except for disabling the “Prefix the root slug before the following slugs?” feature.

What gives? I feel like I’m losing my mind or something… this is normally the simplest thing in the world!

?????

Jonathan

[tooltrainer]

Well after setting my permalinks to /%postname%/ I now get a nice pretty “page not found” error page instead of the DB error. But am no closer to having bbP work, and I really don’t know why. There’s not much to it (which is why I’m using it in the first place! Just upload plugin, activate, create forums, and away you go. Have never seen any issue like this evern with having done several test installs before. I’m using the stock bbP 2010 theme also.

Jonathan

[tooltrainer]

Is there by chance any info anyone can point me to on how exactly to make a theme bbP friendly? Since my theme is not based on TwentyTen even the tiniest bit, and is also nothing like the typical “blog” oriented theme, I’ve had to do tremendous amounts of code hacking to get the two to play together. But it sounds like the latest builds of bbP have added a lot of stuff for theme integration.

I’d really like to let one of my coders loose on a fresh install of my theme and the latest bbP, and have her integrate the two “properly” so that future updates to either of them will require a lot less manual hacking. I’m just not really even sure where to start, what files from the bbP theme are required, how to integrate them with my theme (since it doesn’t have the usual suspects like a header file, footer file, single-post file, etc. Nearly everything about it is dynamically generated by the theme admin panel in WP).

Just kinda desperate for a little guidance… thanks!!

Jonathan

[Gautam Gupta]

Under normal circumstances, it should be absolutely painless. I’d recommend running it on your localhost or at least have a backup of the whole database. Also, I’d recommend you to use the latest version, you’d have to copy paste or checkout the file – I haven’t zipped and uploaded it as an archive yet.

[Gautam Gupta]

Under normal circumstances, it should be absolutely painless. I’d recommend running it on your localhost or at least have a backup of the whole database. Also, I’d recommend you to use the latest version, you’d have to copy paste or checkout the file – I haven’t zipped and uploaded it as an archive yet.