[Greg]

Regarding Matt’s “”As for bundling multiple plugins with core — ultimately it’s a cop-out. If something is good enough to be included with the core download, put it in core!””

I agree with everything johnhiler said on this, plus I would add that the advantage of core plugins is that their coupling with the real core will be more well defined and probably minimized. Making something a plugin puts a clear boundary around the set of features that it adds. It also guarantees that the real core can work without this functionality.

Without this to enforce discipline on the design, things are far more likely to become highly coupled spaghetti.

A related issue is core bloat. Something like Windows or WordPress adds features in every release and seldom removes them. The result is that the code base is monotonically increasing in size and complexity. It will ultimately collapse under its own weight. This means that significant rewrites become necessary from time to time.

The Unix “small and decoupled is beautiful” approach is maintainable for much longer for this reason.

Higher coupling does have its advantages (performance, UX), but they are usually short term gains, winning the battle but losing the war.

[zaerl]

Assuming that you are using the Kakumei theme open /bb-templates/kakumei/topic.php. The plugin instructions: https://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/live-comment-preview/installation/ suggest a good place for inserting that snippet of code. Right after <?php post_form(); ?> (line 45 in Kakumei topic.php template file.)

Remember: Never touch core files.

[Joe Gibson]

Z – I got to thinking and decided I’d better double-check and found “topic.php” in the root directory, so I presume that’s the one he meant. I tried slapping all five lines of code into it in three different places and got a ‘Parse Error’ when clicking on a comment each time, so obviously I’m still missing something. Thoughts?

Joe

[Joe Gibson]

Z –

Thanks for the replies.

“So I don’t see a reason why it should not function with my plugin.”

And, if I’d actually activated the dang thing, nor would I. Sorry about that. The activation process somehow slipped by me. Works terrifically in both browsers.

“zaerl URL preview”

No thanks to that, but I know people are going to start bitching about not having a ‘Preview’ button.

The only hitch (so far) with “Live Comment Preview” is that I can’t understand his instructions. Maybe you could set me straight:

__________________________________________________________

<?php add_live_comment_preview(“View Preview”); ?>

to your topic.php file, where you want to show the preview’s area.

ie. before the post form something like that

<?php if ( topic_is_open( $bb_post->topic_id ) ) : ?>

<?php add_live_comment_preview(“View Preview”); ?>

<?php post_form(); ?>

<?php else : ?>

__________________________________________________________

1. First off, assuming he’s referring to the bbPress file, it’s “topics.php”. And it’s a fairly long file. Would you have a suggestion on where the first line of code should be stuck?

2. And are the last 4 lines supposed to be part of it? His breaking up a block of code with commentary was somewhat unorthodox.

Much thanks,

Joe

[kevinjohngallagher]

why not no need of “www”? reason?

We’ve known that using “www” during installs has caused issues in the past. Especially if you used “www” for one isntall and not the other.

Cookies are/were (been a long time since i looked into this) using the full URL so “www.bbpress.org”‘s cookie would be different from “bbpress.org”‘s cookie if you didn’t specify.

99/100 it makes no difference. 1/100 it does

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You are right that there was no need for the salts when bbPress1.0 was released, but we’ve had 3 WP releases since then. I find its better to be safe than sorry.

So I’m confuse why we need two separate authentications for both wp and bbP.

In theory: You do not.

In Practice: It doesn’t hurt at all.

Request:

Can you please create two demo files for wp-config.php and bb-config.php with authentication keys, and make live them to pastebin.com & paste links here?

Sure, i’ll do that tonight when I get home.

Am off to see Toy Story3 in 10 mins.

[kevinjohngallagher]

Yes, there’s a plugin but It works only with older release bbPress

As do most plugins.

It’s just where we are I’m afraid

[kevinjohngallagher]

Well I can see some things I’d change. Will they make a difference? i don’t know, probably not, but again, they’re what I use.

(I wish the search function here was half decent so I could find the post I went into this in detail in…)

1) Get your authentication Keys from https://api.wordpress.org/secret-key/1.1/bbpress/salt/

2) Copy your WordPress authentications into your bbPrefig file

define('AUTH_KEY',         '5G#If&OQrV:MfrjuU2;NKhfw|Z:|iU>@hw^LLTxv|~8KPC9S;-+r#J&|T=DS%#X8');

define('SECURE_AUTH_KEY',  'u.p|C]A*s*@M%VGr4;_Cc-*d|I:QjTT&p6kcTL:^X+tzUT)7k-S]h)q^c|||$uy;');

define('LOGGED_IN_KEY',    'xA+j,OZKD_*, 6|Jb7C6rS*3(oT4{-Y)R.E/|!xNtb8,GYzp,X-?i[HtTRE|81h=');

define('NONCE_KEY',        '4h035-4lx6-W.>dtZzRtA=XA+&G5v)llX[B>4--:>hX0h:Ey$afw|&[r_1zHQnZ^');

define('AUTH_SALT',        '+/poE0c>eRr#l54-r@:S.4HD^s3Zr%w-S;s++d,[ku5#Aj{N6g6T;.P>/UB8bIUn');

define('SECURE_AUTH_SALT', 'ck.^(0_T5tON$lTy>dkPZ#]1wZ~yKBkE0m>60H_FRG r6yXd#E|dhJAVvPDu5Kf.');

define('LOGGED_IN_SALT',   'Fz^)*aj<U[RxO3A][1K=pXX6a-4-<R7=[fe$1[hT5d!e-_onpNrk^t|j%!~a+;KP');

define('NONCE_SALT',       'TEdXdR+g]&YY9/YtZX^[,e{_U+^fSGcgt JqKB<[sh:3Jg<7RG~f_.xLX(9e5FXV');



define('BB_AUTH_KEY',         'f@X, B|4rcQ?sv#[]q+x;r =KO{r}i<|h%0=?>!/f|0A#[qzh9pNWdnZR8XadkFH');

define('BB_SECURE_AUTH_KEY',  'X0*%@*wpp(A[/(4RD(TWAnW7N[:gYBZ:@r}-z;w),|fptIbt5 Ro}8Tr?}-c-y+m');

define('BB_LOGGED_IN_KEY',    'cbal+zxea.]|C!ZsWQ6}cKy+?!eSs?@(t)qCz=H*4CDrZlXoC+-X#[h5Hl37LU~/');

define('BB_NONCE_KEY',        '4{ZC+__k{]MPr[I{~q$Muta#XghduMPBRQvNZqFIm-~-4-DaH|vH$6W~)wD!^92X');

define('BB_AUTH_SALT',        '?v&+?5?vnXoIPuc&%OQMNN#QP_Xf&ZA0J:FO;tY:JdEjT5xt^k$,-q!XvVS,E)$1');

define('BB_SECURE_AUTH_SALT', 'n(M15M~Y<qg(A!x8ov,7]:+HZ>q0ajV3!feD){dLPhn2upN?;fIRE.@~14xH?v!8');

define('BB_LOGGED_IN_SALT',   '{Lu=[hq;BCEu j>n[Ejv%]w-k y?$@*sK@VcB<7E)wR/mrUIGj%9@*Q>.v]P|~#x');

define('BB_NONCE_SALT',       '*9Dv~}=@+k<g-w$WIsEXdxULL0yz0D{]!9@HY/e$7Ru|^dv?QF$gy!}dcLIC>@5P');

3. With no disrespect to that screencast, it is 19 months old, and we’ve had a whole new version of bbPress since then. For integration I always use http://wpbbpthemes.org/integration/ as a starting guide.

4. Check you’re not using “www” anywhere in the URLS you specify in the database, or that you installed any of the bbPress/WordPress systems while using “www”.

[kevinjohngallagher]

In your bb-config.php file put this code:

define( 'COOKIE_DOMAIN', '.your-domain-name.com' );

define( 'SITECOOKIEPATH', '/' );

define( 'COOKIEPATH', '/' );

If you’re using WordPress, make sure you put the same in the wp-config.php too.

Now, I know this isn’t supported or well-liked or even neccessary these days (was it ever), but I still put this legacy code into my bb-config

$bb->wp_siteurl = 'http://www.my-wordpress-url.com';

$bb->wp_home = 'http://www.my-wordpress-url.com';

$bb->wp_table_prefix = 'wp_';

$bb->user_bbdb_name = 'my-database-name';

$bb->user_bbdb_user = 'my-database-username';

$bb->user_bbdb_password = 'my-password';

$bb->user_bbdb_host = 'localhost';

$bb->custom_user_table = '';

$bb->custom_user_meta_table = '';

$bb->authcookie = 'wordpress_';

$bb->cookiedomain = '';

$bb->cookiepath = '/';

$bb->sitecookiepath = '';

$bb->wp_table_prefix = 'wp_';

Does it make any difference? I doubt it. But with all the integration stuff over the years, I’ve become a big fan of covering the bases.

[zaerl]

zaerl Editor just add a <a> tag which is the standard way of doing things (nothing more). It seems that bb-open_in_new_window just scan the DOM searching for a elements and append a _blank. So I don’t see a reason why it should not function with my plugin.

Checkbox for e-mail subscription

Here we have the trunk version of bbPress (1.1 or 1.0.3, we don’t know how to name it and this is a great problem, really) which introduce anonymous posting and subscribe to topics.

If you want a plugin that transform links the way you want I can send you the version 0.2 of my plugin “zaerl URL preview” which I have not uploaded to bbpress.org for several reasons (here there is only 0.1).

za AT zaerl.com

[Danial Hatami]

Hi everybody,

I searched for the themes for my bbforum like this : http://wordpress.org/support/ but I found one theme that it named mimic, i guess. but the style and the color is not the same. I need it ( this theme : http://wordpress.org/support/ ) for the Persian WordPress Supporting ( fa-wp.com ) …. Please Help Me … Please (

[_ck_]

You don’t even need a plugin for this.

You just need to fix your cookie settings and it will work instantly.

Set all cookie paths to the root /

and make sure they are all using the same key/hash which is likely the problem.

You didn’t say which version of bbPress you are using, it appears to be 1.0.2

I don’t think I’ve ever bothered to figure out all the new variable names under 1.x which is why you can’t find them around here.

[_ck_]

Yes, there are already sites using it that way.

In fact if they are all using the same domain “example.com” then you don’t even need an extra plugin to do it.

Set all the cookie paths to the domain root. /

Point all the user tables to the same db.

Setup the same cookie keys/hash and done.

This wasn’t really a question for Matt unless in general people want to know how a bbpress plugin would handle multiple installs. As far as I could guess, you’d have to install multiple copies of WP.

[pastorbobsforum]

Hello.

Exactly what I wanted: <?php post_author_avatar(); ?>

I had some problems with my permissions for the avatar folder in the root forum. It’s set to 755 now.

Thank you.

Regards,

Bob

[Joe Gibson]

Z – Thanks, the ‘s’ did it. Very appreciated.

The one last thing that would really make this editor the cat’s ass would be opening links in a new window. Is there a PHP version of “Target=_blank” we can slip into the code?

Joe

[Ben L.]

What you want is <?php post_author_avatar_link(); ?> or <?php post_author_avatar(); ?>, depending on whether you want it to be a link to the user’s website or not.

[nickaster]

So.. i guess this is a bump. How do i do the last step? “integrate a facebook connect button”? What’s the code for that? Do I just slap it onto my bbpress template?

[pastorbobsforum]

Hello.

I am using Bavatars 0.4.1 plugin in bbpress 1.0.2.

Now, I am trying to get my avatar (or every user’s avatar for that matter) shown next to every post that I (or they) make.

I have tried using something of the <?php avatarupload_display(get_post_author_id()); ?>kind in my template’s post.php page, specifically in <div class="threadauthor"> section, but I don’t know the exact function that I am supposed to call there. I got the idea from another plugin (Avatar Upload), where it seemed to be working fine.

This is the function in Avatar Upload plugin <?php echo avatarupload_display($user->ID, $force_db); if ($config->use_thumbnail == 1) { echo " &nbsp; " . avatarupload_displaythumb($user->ID, $force_db) . "</p>";}?> defined in avatar.php (from Avatar Upload plugin).

Now, if I was to define the exact function in bavatars.php and call it in post.php, I guess it would work, but I cannot find my way round the Bavatars plugin.

Any ideas?

Thank you.

Regards,

Bob

[pastorbobsforum]

Hello.

What I wanted was to allow only certain users to post images. And following your advice, this is what I did.

function allow_images_allowed_tags( $tags ) {

if (bb_current_user_can('moderate'))

{

$tags = array('src' => array(), 'title' => array(), 'alt' => array());

}

return $tags;

}

add_filter( 'bb_allowed_tags', 'allow_images_allowed_tags' );

?>

<?php

Worked just fine.

Thank you once again.

Regards,

Bob

[Brian Duffy]

I installed wordpress using simplescripts. I installed bbpress manually.

Everything works fine until I add the following line to bb-config.php

require_once(dirname(__FILE__) . ‘/../wp-load.php’);

After adding the above code I can no longer login to bbpress.

Instead I get the below error:

Fatal error: Cannot redeclare class PasswordHash in /home7/brianduf/public_html/wordpress/forum/bb-includes/backpress/class.passwordhash.php on line 38

If anyone could help to throw some light on this for me I would be over the moon : )

[_ck_]

Yeah I suspected as much. Thanks for switching it on Otto!

Sam did some work and then a great deal was copied over for bbpress.org 2.0

I noticed the xml generator was there and the flash element was on bbpress.org too.

Now if we could just get DD32 (Dion) to document the darn API for it as I have no clue how to use it and can’t find anything via google (other than downloading the ENTIRE dataset). https://api.wordpress.org/plugins/info/1.0/

Oh wait, here’s something http://wordpress.pastebin.com/raw.php?i=7Ji8rD2P

bingo – docs: http://comox.textdrive.com/pipermail/wp-hackers/2009-January/023505.html

Doesn’t seem to be on the bbPress side anyway after all that, oh well.

ps. I don’t suppose you can get tags working again in the plugin section – they are not being imported from the readme.txt file anymore. Is it because of the tag api name changes from bbpress 0.9 -> 1.0 ?

ie. add_topic_tags became bb_add_topic_tags

but that’s in the deprecated support, so not sure what else it might be

[yetanotherlogin]

Thansk Kevin for the link.

I followed the whole procedure down to “3. Deep Integration > 8. Log into WP Dashboard”… but now, I can no longer log on (/wordpress/wp-login.php)

FWIW, it doesn’t say that the password is incorrect, but it loops back to Username/Password.

Tried Chrome and Firefox, same result. I did empty the browser cache, as asked in the procedure, same result.

FWIW2, I can still log on to bbPress as admin.

Any idea why I can no longer log on to WP?

BTW, when is “deep integration” needed? I’d simply like a link to the underlying bbPress forum to be displayed in the WordPress main UI.

Thank you.

[Samuel Wood (Otto)]

Strangely enough, the code was all there to do stats, it just needed to be turned on and modified ever so slightly to make the graph work.

[Ivaylo Draganov]

Works flawlessly now. Great thanks for that neat plugin and for the support. I am also in favor of keeping lightweight standalone bbPress

[citizenkeith]

All this, while striving to be as light as possible

I liked reading that!

You guys are starting to win over this bbPress 0.9 user. See what communication can do for a community?

[_ck_]

Once you get that settled, I’ll point out how year-long-cookies never executes, even though you have it installed. So just delete that old plugin.

So to make longer cookies when “remember me” is set, you’d have to edit the freshly-baked-cookies plugin, search for the number 1209600 and change it to 31536000 which is a year. Optionally you could set it smaller like 111600 which is 31 days.