[kieranyo]

1.0.2

[jakshi]

@huafeihua116

Not at all.

@ashfame

I agree with “salts were never included in sample config file”, When I do integrations – I get salts values from options.

I and many other people will very happy if developers of bbpress says us what difference between your good working wordpress and bbpress cookie integration, and their wordpress and bbpress cookie integration that don’t work.

But for now – it’s still unresolved issue

[evilgeek23]

excellent kieranyo .. what version do u use ? 0.9 or 1.0.2 ?

[kieranyo]

Thanks everyone!

bforeste: it was very easy to do. Without sounding too technical, by default the forum includes an alternating “class” for each reply, all I did was use CSS to “float:right” instead of using the default “float:left” on each one. The existing html and css caters for this very well.

[bforeste]

Big fan of the alternating avatar ‘conversation’…great idea. Should be default format for any board IMO.

Is this mod easily done for a non-coder?

[Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)]

@kevin

yeah buddy! was off track now back to the game

I will investigate by hard-coding cookiepath, cookiedomain and like stuff in bbPress too.

I understand your point completely, I would have done the same for production sites and kept the testing going on test site.

[bforeste]

chrishajer – I think this comment is worth exploring more: from post https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/upgrade-errors-it-looks-like-your-database-is-out-of-date

How can the bbPress upgrade/install know the database is out of date if it cannot connect to the database? I thought the version was stored in the database in the first place. I might have to try breaking my bb-config.php and attempting to upgrade a 0.9 installation to see how this works. Haven’t tried in a while.

I get the same results time after time. Anytime I try to upgrade my 0.9 DB using the new 1.02 fileset, I am presented with a DB connection error. I ask the same question – how can I get to the login page or the ‘your DB is out of date – upgrade’ page without some form of DB connection?

If it is making an initial connection, what could break it? Could a secret_key / salt mismatch do it? Would anything break the bb DB connection on the WP side (I’m upgrading a non-integrated 0.9 DB into an integrated WP install). Should I wipe out the WP integration first?

Also – does anyone know a way to create a simple php file (or other method) to test the connectivity of the app server to the db server? I just want to verify the connection outside of the WP / BB install – in case something is wonky there.

thanks for any ideas…

[ekitel]

I just tried installing on a different host, gator as opposed to dreamhost but it still doesn’t work.

I find that when you logout of one it does automatically log you out of the other. Also when you log in into one when already logged into the other it logs you out of the other, so effectively you can only be logged into one at a time.

When looking at the cookies that are set I see that WP sets 2:

wordpress_ada20ea306634ad9f83718aa733fc431

wordpress_logged_in_ada20ea306634ad9f83718aa733fc431

When logging into BBP it only sets 1:

wordpress_logged_in_ada20ea306634ad9f83718aa733fc431

I notice in WP the values for wordpress_ and wordpress_logged_in_ don’t match, are they supposed to be different?

If already logged in with WP and then logging in with BBP I notice that the value of wordpress_logged_in_ changes. I’m sure that’s why if you go back to WP then you find yourself logged out.

As far as I can tell the value set for wordpress_logged_in_ by WP is not recognized by BBP so you are not automatically logged in to it. I wonder why that is if I’ve followed all the cookie integration steps?

[psycheangels]

dont use bb anonymous posting in https://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/bb-anonymous-posting/#post-1276

use bb anonymous from post meta plugin by ck, and for hold moderation use plugin from s010

you can edit the hold moderation to only hold when anonymous user post.

you can cek my site the bb anonymous work perfectly and hold moderation plugin

[kevinjohngallagher]

Oh, and on that note (not to steal from the other thread).

I’ve only ever used 32 length keys, never 64.

Again, mightprobably will have 0 impact, but right now it works so…

I’ve also copied the SALTs from the wordpress and bbpress options page onto the config file.

Again, probably 100% overkill, but right now it works so…

This may sound daft, but I’ve accepted that integration isn’t going to be the exact science I think it should be, so i just try to cover the bases.

[kevinjohngallagher]

Yo dudes,

@Zaerl

I know matey, wasn’t meant in a bad way at all

In terms of backward compatability, there’s quite a bit of change to how constructs and classes are handled, and depending on when the code was written, could cause some hidden issues.

bbPress 0.7,0.8 & 0.9 weren’t major rewrites of any of the basic backend code. A huge chunk of them were written by Matt over a weekend some 7 years ago and the move to backPress was a definative leap (fully awesome OOPness – as much as its kinda useless ).

So what i meant wasn’t just the leap from PHP4final to PHP5; but also things that were not aimed for PHP4 but that PHP4 supported. i.e. The code that was still in bbPress0.9 that was written when PHP3 was still around.

@Ashfame

Long time bro.

I know the problem of which you speak mate, and while not knowing exactly which bit of code makes it go away, I’ve not had it in ages.

Login in wordpress >>> check that i’m “logged in” on bbPress >>> access admin.

Yeah it all works. I’ll have to delve into the code when home, but I think the sites I’m testing on are using “super anne” code/plugin. I also doubt these are on the latest versions of bbpress/wordpress. Frankly I’ve accepted that installing bbpress means not upgrading wordpress.

As i recall from the long long long thread in 2008, the key thing was having:

in wordpress config:

define(‘COOKIE_DOMAIN’, ”);

define(‘COOKIEPATH’, ‘/’);

in bbPress config:

$bb->authcookie = ‘wordpress_’;

$bb->cookiedomain = ”;

$bb->cookiepath = ‘/’;

$bb->sitecookiepath = ”;

The basic theory was that the bbPress admin, wasn’t reading the wordpress cooking properly or at all, something to do with when it was assigning/pulling data from the “$bb” global variable; so it wouldn’t let you access the admin panel of bbPress. But by setting this info in the config (loaded first) it solved it.

That may be pie in the sky my friend, but thats what my brain is telling me.

[Francesco Bigiarini]

and i get alot of errors

What errors? Please notice that bbPress isn’t a WordPress/buddypress plugin but a standalone software.

[Josh]

I just installed bbpress through buddypress, and i get alot of errors, how would i fix them or do i have to reinstall? By actually installing it?

[Francesco Bigiarini]

It means that the URL rewriting is possible only if you are using the Apache web server. Apache rewrite URLs using an extension called mod_rewrite. Other web servers have similar functionalities but bbPress doesn’t support them.

[kevinjohngallagher]

I never really liked the Nissan one when you linked ot it previously, but your new URL is really great, and very well done. Congratulations and thanks for sharing with us!

[Francesco Bigiarini]

PHP4 to 5 was a huge change, a leap into correctly written OOP.

I was speaking about the backward incompatibilities which are just a bunch of functions.

[Francesco Bigiarini]

Very stylish. Compliments.

[kieranyo]

Thanks!

Yeah I’m quite happy with how it turned out. It gives it more of a feeling that it’s a conversation

[Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)]

Nice design! I like the way you show alternate avatar positions on topic page

[Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)]

I have working setups with 64length keys. Nicely integrated with only the issue of bbPress dashboard redirection when logged in from WordPress side (users don’t need have access to bbPress dashboard, so its just for admin & mods). Other than this the integration works flawlessly for me. Both simple and deep integration.

@jakshi

AFAIK, salts were never included in sample config file, if they are not present they are generated internally and then saved.

[kieranyo]

After the success with the Nissan Cube Owners Club forum (http://forum.cubeownersclub.co.uk/), when one of my clients asked about a forum I decided again to use BBPress.

I run the website for a UK TV Nature Presenter called Kate Humble and wanted to use a forum that could be integrated with the rest of the site (which is in WordPress) and have the same look and feel. I think it’s turned out pretty nicely and the new users are enjoying and participating.

The URL is http://katehumble.com/forum

It’s running a very customised theme obviously, a new homepage and I’ve also removed the tags feature.

I’ve installed a few plugins, modified a few too and I’ve also implemented the new Facebook “like” feature on the top of every topic. If I get time (and enough interest) maybe I’ll try and implement this as a BBPress plugin.

Because this time it lives in a sub folder instead of a sub domain, one of the technical hurdles I had to get round was the WordPress .htaccess file conflicting with it so all I had to do was put 1 line of code in the root .htaccess file telling it to ignore (and stop processing) everything in /forum.

Let me know what you think

[Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)]

@kevin

Tell me this –

• login into WordPress
• It should be reflected on bbPress side. Right?
• Try to access bbPress dashboard. Are you able to?

This seems to be a random problem of all integrations I have done so far.

[huafeihua116]

Thanks jakshi!

[kevinjohngallagher]

I absolutely agree that this is far from a “guarenteed” fix, but I’ve long found that the more things we can rule out when going through a bbPress to WordPress integration the easier life becomes.

For example, I still define the following in my WordPress config file:

define(‘AUTH_KEY’, ‘authkey’);

define(‘SECURE_AUTH_KEY’, ‘secureauthkey’);

define(‘SECURE_AUTH_SALT’, ‘secureauthsalt’);

define(‘LOGGED_IN_KEY’, ‘loggedinkey’);

define(‘LOGGED_IN_SALT’, ‘loggedinsalt’);

define(‘SECRET_KEY’, ‘secretkey’);

define(‘SECRET_SALT’, ‘secretsalt’);

define(‘NONCE_KEY’,’nonce_key’);

define(‘NONCE_SALT’, ‘nonce_salte’);

define(‘COOKIE_DOMAIN’, ”);

define(‘COOKIEPATH’, ‘/’);

define(‘CUSTOM_USER_TABLE’, ‘wp_users’);

define(‘CUSTOM_USER_META_TABLE’, ‘wp_usermeta’);

And the following in my bbPress config file:

define(‘BB_AUTH_KEY’, ‘authkey’);

define(‘BB_SECURE_AUTH_KEY’, ‘secureauthkey’);

define(‘BB_SECURE_AUTH_SALT’, ‘secureauthsalt’);

define(‘BB_LOGGED_IN_KEY’, ‘loggedinkey’);

define(‘BB_LOGGED_IN_SALT’, ‘loggedinsalt’);

define(‘BB_SECRET_KEY’, ‘secretkey’);

define(‘BB_SECRET_SALT’, ‘secretsalt’);

define(‘BB_NONCE_KEY’,’nonce_key’);

define(‘BB_NONCE_SALT’, ‘nonce_salte’);

$bb->wp_siteurl = ‘http://www.mydomain.com/’;

$bb->wp_home = ‘http://www.mydomain.com/’;

$bb->wp_table_prefix = ‘wp_’;

$bb->user_bbdb_name = ‘XXXXX’;

$bb->user_bbdb_user = ‘XXXXX’;

$bb->user_bbdb_password = ‘XXXXX’;

$bb->user_bbdb_host = ‘localhost’;

$bb->custom_user_table = ”;

$bb->custom_user_meta_table = ”;

$bb->authcookie = ‘wordpress_’;

$bb->cookiedomain = ”;

$bb->cookiepath = ‘/’;

$bb->sitecookiepath = ”;

$bb->wp_table_prefix = ‘wp_’;

Now I know that most of that code is redundant, and left over from older integration methods; but by using this as a base that I know works for bbPress0.9/1.0.2 to WP2.5->2.9 I’ve found that I’ve not hit any real integration issues that weren’t procedural or human error in over a year.

Adding “AddHandler php5-script .php” to my .htaccess file wont cause any overhead (as i should be using PHP5 anyway), and will also help rule out that 1 out of 100 times that installation/integration hits an issue.

@Zaerl and Chris

PHP4 to 5 was a huge change, a leap into correctly written OOP.

bbPress1.0.2 (for all its faults) and specifically backPress are really brilliantly written OOP code; and while not 100% sure, i’m quietly confident that using backPress/bbPress1.0.2 on PHP4 would throw some inconsistances.

I doubt this fix is anywhere near “guarenteed” to solve anything, but if it works for 1 out of 100 people, it should go in the “win” column

[kevinjohngallagher]

Hi Transmutator,

Question – Why not simply make bbPress themes/templates function like WordPress themes?

They do.

The ease of theming bbPress is one of it’s real strong points.

The problem is that you’re confusing some of the phrases (its not your fault, its not brilliantly clear unless you’ve been here a while).

Integration = bbPress + WordPress using same cookies for log on.

Deep Integration = bbPress loading WordPress every time, allowing access to WordPress code.

So when you say “fully integrate” i’m guessing you mean “deep integration” which isn’t supported or intended. We can offer some advice on it, but its a by product, not a feature.

The realism is that copying large sections of your theme (mostly the ‘outer’ sections such as header and footer) and your current WP stylesheet will start to make a huge difference to how your bbPress theme looks. Just make sure to remove any “wordpress” specific code or plugin calls; they’re really superfluous to 99% of forums.