[John James Jacoby]

I’ll be posting something all official sounding soon (as in tonight) but Kevin, can’t say I received an email from you; if I did it only went ignored because I didn’t see it. My apologies for lack of communication and I’ll do better going forward. Check my Gravatar for ten confirmed methods to track me down.

On the flip side, I’m excited that people still care about there being a plugin branch considering the ups and downs bbPress has gone through over the past year or two.

At the sake of sounding like a politician, I’m personally committed to making bbPress great in whatever form it takes, because it (along with WordPress and BuddyPress) put food on my table and keep a roof over my head. It’s been like that for the past two years, and I’d like to maintain that status for as far into the foreseeable future as I can. If I was self-employed or employed by Automattic, it wouldn’t change the way I intend to be involved and help shape bbPress’s future.

I know it’s been a rough and tumble life for bbPress, and thankfully all of us want to change that.

Be back in a bit to keep up this convo and look forward to more comments, feedback, gripes, general criticism, and cooking tips if you have any.

[Pete Mall]

Anyone and everyone can contribute to the project. I’ll be making some announcements soon on how people can get involved.

[deadlyhifi]

Thanks Pete, that puts me at ease. Good luck with the project. Shout if you need anything.

[Pete Mall]

We’ll be working on bbPress as a WordPress plugin leveraging custom post types in WordPress 3.0+. There will be a direct/easy way for you to import your bbPress standalone data into the new WordPress plugin.

[deadlyhifi]

At the end of the day, however many versions of bbPress are around, I want/need something that works and has an active community behind it. I have a bbPress forum running on 1.0.1 with 1.5 million+ posts. The lack of communication has been a concern for some time. I sent an email off to Matt asking for some clarification a while ago and heard nothing … but I’m glad to see something is happening.

How this will affect me and all that data I have accumulated remains to be seen. I wish there would be an announcement to put me at ease or at least give me an idea of the tasks ahead.

@kjg – I’ll be at the Manchester WordCamp at the weekend, it would be good to meet up, put a face to name and all that.

[Gautam Gupta]

Pretty much unexpected

[mr_pelle]

I can’t believe that… can’t believe…

[kevinjohngallagher]

http://www.kevinjohngallagher.com/2010/07/open-letter-to-automattic-regarding-bbpress-plug-in

If this has ANY code from bbPress in it, i’ll eat my hat

It’s daft to use the name for one product thats totally different, and it’s already caused more than a few unneccessary support questions and fear-mongering.

Instead, it’s just going to be the 6th product in 18months from AutoMattic which will be abbreviated to “bPress”. I decided to write this after emails to Matt, Jane and JJJ all went unanswered in the past month; and Westi didn’t comment on it in my email to him, though he did say that he didn’t know that bbPress was dependant on BackPress – and he’s the BackPress lead!! really lovely guy, but it hardly bodes well.

Pete and JJJ are graet coders and people who only want the best for the community, i’ve no doubt that this plugin will be great for those that want it. It just pains me that the lack of management/commonsense/planning that have plagued bbPress are going to be forced on them too

At least if they choose a different Development blog name, people won’t get too confused.

[deadlyhifi]

Just spotted the foliowing on Twitter by @petemall:

bbPress plugin is born… http://trac.bbpress.org/changeset/2463

bbPress plugin is born… http://trac.bbpress.org/changeset/2463

— Pete Mall (@petemall) July 13, 2010

Not done any investigation yet…

[kevinjohngallagher]

Hi Scott,

Just been through this with my WorldCup Fansite Forum after the final on Sunday night, so I’ve a few things to throw your way. I’m sorry about the slow and pedantic manner of this post too; but if it’s this or close yoru forum, we’ll just get through it!

My gut feeling is that this is a plugin and/or host issue. So lets see what we can do here:

First, lots of boring questions I’m afraid:

Is your website using WordPress at all?

If so, have you set up “deep integration”?

Did you do the installing/setup yourself?

Second, ask your host if they’re intentionally throttling you or if it’s automatic?

If it’s happening, ask them what the issue is (I doubt they’ll give you a huge run down but might find a specific issue you didn’t know was the ‘biggie’)

Third, Make backups

Copy a back up of every plugin and your theme on your hardrive somewhere, then log into bbpress and deactivate them all (apart from akismet) and change to the normal default theme.

Fourth, delete all of the plugins and themes.

Fifth, Tell your users

Write a post (then sticky to font) about how your website is going through an “upgrade” and in order to get the latest most secure most awesome software installed you’re having to accept the default theme for half a day.

Sixth, Lets have a look at those SQL queries.

Open up your bb-config.php file and add the following line before the database connection stuff (at around line 33):

define('SAVEQUERIES', true);

Seventh, edit your footer

open up your footer.php in (my-templates/kakumei/) and add this to the very bottom:

if (bb_current_user_can('administrate'))

{

global $bbdb;

print_r($bbdb->queries);

}

Apologies for this, but that last line is going to have something that looks like “->” in it. Please, make this into “-” and then a right arrow (usually shift+period). It’s a bug here on this forum – should be fixed soon.

Eight, load your forum.

At the bottom of your homepage you should see a big list of stuff, which will have lots of SQL commands.

This is a list of all the SQL commands that load, in order, along with the time taken to execute.

Do any of them look to be taking longer than the others?

Copy and paste this list into a text file and save on your desktop (there will be about 15 SQL commands with a few lines around them).

Nine, recount.

Log into your admin area and go to Tools.

Select ONE checkbox at a time and hit “RECOUNT ITEMS”.

Do this for all checkboxes going down the list.

Ten, load your forum (again).

Repeat Step 8.

Compare the results betwen the two text files.

Have any of the “times” come down?

Are any of them above 0.1 seconds?

Are any of them betwen 0.5 and 1 second?

[Ben L.]

Try installing this plugin: https://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/bb-benchmark/

And adding the following line to your bb-config.php:

define('SAVEQUERIES', true);

Then, you can view source on any forum page (when logged in as admin) and it will tell you the slowest query, along with the function that used it. It’s usually simple guessing to figure out which plugin a query came from after that.

[Francesco Bigiarini]

I think that a WYSIWYG editor isn’t a must-have feature in a bullettin board and I don’t see a lot of forums with this functionality (I follow ~30 bb daily.) I have implemented my editor for bbPress only cause it’s boring to write the “a” tag (and others). Quicktags (bbcode or html) are the way to go IMHO.

[deadlyhifi]

https://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/approve-user-registration/page/2/#post-3902 has an updated Approve User Registration plugin that works for v1.0

[kevinjohngallagher]

I doubt people neither chose nor leave a forum because they’ve not implemented TinyMCE; which is not to say that some people don’t like WYSIWYG, but it’s importance is often overstated.

phpBB, as your example, seems to be doing ok without it. I’m sure I saw them hit their 10th birthday and gazillionth download not that long ago. Basiaclly, phpBB has been around since before Google.

you converted your forum from a wysiwyg based forum; vbulletin (native), phpbb (as plugin).. to bbpress, you loose lot of formatting

Why did you lose your formatting?

Thats not a bbPress thing, was it in the conversion (i haven’t done one yet)?

Is the formatting still in the post?

If it is, there are numerous bbCode plugins for bbPress for years now. Let us know what’s gone and I’ll try and help you sort that. I think that could be a nice fix for you!

it is not an option, it is a must-have feature in every successful board

http://www.kevinjohngallagher.com/2010/03/basic-versus-standard/

[Abdessamad Idrissi]

a temporary fix is to search bbpress through google:

wysiwyg site:https://bbpress.org/plugins

[Abdessamad Idrissi]

Hello there,

It would be really a nice thing to have a wysiwyg editor in bbpress, just like the one that wordpress have: TinyMCE, since it is open source.

the current editor is too much simple and complex at the same time especially when:

* you converted your forum from a wysiwyg based forum; vbulletin (native), phpbb (as plugin).. to bbpress, you loose lot of formatting.

* most of the users don’t know how to deal with bbcode.

* you need a fast way to copy-past formated text and images.

* currently no efficient wysiwyg plugin available in the bbpress plugins.

* it is not an option, it is a must-have feature in every successful board.

most phpbb forum owners criticized harshly the lack of wysiwyg in phpbb; people keeps asking for it and phpbb developers keep ignoring them and saying that they want to keep phpbb simple!!! so users leave to other forums!

for the people who like the current bbpress simple editor, bbpress can offer a switch in the dashboard to toggle wysiwyg editor on and off.

what do you think?

[chrishajer]

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/need-to-fix-plugin-search

[Abdessamad Idrissi]

Hi there!

I noticed quite ago that when you search for a plugin, you got a list of corrupt urls.

it is more than 2 weeks now I keep seeing this issue and wander is it only me who is getting this!?

please have a look at this example page :

http://bbpress.org/plugins/search.php?q=wysiwyg

try clicking on a plugin’s page link.

see!?

[kevinjohngallagher]

In terms of going forward as a standalone piece of software, yeah, it effectively is.

But the software you have and you can always use, and if it works for you, go for it. I, and all others here, are in the sme boat, and the basics of bbPress are quite brilliant.

I’d be suprised if you should have to change “localhost”, but if there’s no emails comign through from your goDaddy account at all, and you’re using the default mail(), then it’s at their end

Good Luck

[Sunnichka]

well, just had an answer that i should leave localhost. well, i uploaded back an old file and still nothing. and just read on your blog that bbPress is dead. very pity idea was very nice!

[kevinjohngallagher]

Bonjour,

Je ne parle pas couramment le français depuis son départ en 1980s. S’il vous plaît excuser ma tentative assez pauvre pour ne pas utiliser l’anglais

Ce plugin peut correspondre à vos besoins:

https://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/bavatars/

jean

[adammurphy]

Hi guys,

thanks so much for you help and advice on this. I’ve got the host to rollback the whole site to before the error occurred, and that seems to be working so I’m crossing my fingers it will be ok now (and doing nightly backups…)

I’ve repeatedly asked the host what caused the problem and they’ve not been answering – most recent response was “Sorry, but we can’t let you know what was caused the problem.” – which might mean they don’t know or else could mean they don’t want me to know… ho hum.

Anyways – thanks very much for taking to time to help with this, particularly as it’s not actually a bbpress issue at all.

Adam.

[Sunnichka]

Yeah, I know that this topic is old, a pity it’s not very busy here Well, I wanted to use bbPress registration because there are more fields in it and i dnt want to mess up installing extra-plugins to WP to get all necessary datas from users when I could get all needed from bbPress.

All changes i was trying to do in class.mailer.php is to put registered email to $Sender end played with $Host because it’s not localhost at godaddy hosting.

It didnt work with WordPress before I started to change anything anyway.

Sorry, I’m not a hardcoder and this bloody thing causes me headache already a week. Didnt happen on testhosting

But thank you for reply!!!

[kevinjohngallagher]

Hi Sunnie,

The first thing to check is if WordPress can send registration emails.

If it can, then we have a bbPress issue.

If it can’t then it’s a server issue, and the quickest resolution is to contact your hosts and use the WordPress support forum (as there are more people on there).

Test and let us know

[Sunnichka]

Hi guys!

Unfortunately going through this problem with registration emails (((

Mail can be send from a server where I keep the website, I created mailer.php as suggested above and everything works. But not with bbPress and WordPress I’ve installed. WordPress and bbPress are integrated and I use bbPress registration form for the whole site.

Hosting provider – godaddy. In config host is different from localhost.

I wrote to them, they advised:

“If you use the mail() function in your PHP, you do not need to specify an outgoing mail server.”

I tried to modify class.mailer putting email I’ve created on account and tried to change $Host but still nothing works ((( Could anyone help what to modify, how to make this thing work.

Thanx!

Sunnie