[Paul Gregory]

frooyo, if you see point 7.4 of the draft proposal you’ll see that it shouldn’t negatively affect this fork. Kevinjohn reckons that the bbPress plugin code and community will be excellently managed by JJJ. The fork will not prioritise integration with WordPress, meaning the fork can instead concentrate on being lightweight and modular (with 25 modules bundled in).

So that’s alright then. Oh, except at least one supporter of the fork thinks that “we will surely need to keep it tightly integrated with WordPress to market it and make it a success”.

I don’t really understand what part of bbPress it is that Kevinjohn wants to save. To me, it seems that the main thing he wants to keep from bbPress is the developers…

Right now, we’ve alot of exceptionally talented Developers, and not so much in the PM/BA department, and I’m merely trying to fill the gap I can be most helpful in.

Kevinjohn, you’re not filling a gap in bbPress, you’re creating a new project with all-new gaps and filling one or two of them.

Throughout the document you say “we” and “us” to mean either the bbPress community or the fork community. I wonder if at some points you forget that there even is a difference – that a fork is a breaking away. A new software, not a saving of the old software.

I was attracted to bbPress because it is the forum from the WordPress people and I like the tags. It is a shame that the project hasn’t flourished like WP has. I can understand that people will be attracted to a continuation of bbPress, but without the ties to WP the fork needs to stand alone with a clear identity. Heck, bbPress’s main problem is that it has a muddied identity – is it 0.9, 1.0 or plugin?

You say the proposal is a draft one, but I’m not entirely clear when/if you plan to release an amended version. I think that what you need to do after your blue-sky and requirement refinement phases is to publish a detailed proposal, a manifesto for the project, identifying what parts you’re taking from bbPress and what parts need to be rewritten, and asking “who’s with us?”.

Indeed, that’s what I hoped to see in the draft document, but instead I was disappointed by the contradictions and lack of detail. However, a definition that is refined by community consent rather than one man’s vision may well be the best start, and this fork may excite me yet.

With the fork defined clearly in a proper proposal, people who were particularly attached to rejected ideas can leave, and other developers and contributors will join. Everyone on the fork will believe in the project. You’ll know how many people are truly committed, and you can plan accordingly.

And this process will probably inspire even more forks from teams and individuals.

I suspect that the best post-bbPress projects will be rewrites of the core, like _ck_ has identified is necessary for her intriguing project. And that’s fine. Take the spirit, learn the lessons. Don’t keep bbPress code alive for the sake of it, just write the best forum software you can.

Kevinjohn, it may not seem it, but I wish your project well.

[alexborras]

I have a problem with bbPress installation.

I first installed WordPress 3.0, BuddyPress and forums that come with BuddyPress.

After, disable the plugin BuddyPress and all other plugins associated with it. I will not use BuddyPress.

Upload bbPress to a new folder: http://www.mydomain.com/bbPress

With de browser go to http://www.mydomain.com/bbpress

But do not start the installation of bbPress if that appears directly in the form to register as a user of the forums.

When I try to login and then sends me to an old path BuddyPress:

http://www.mydomain.com/wp-content/plugins/buddypress/bp-forums/bbpress/bb-login.php

How I can do to install a clean bbPress without interfering with BuddyPress?

[aronchi]

I need to let anonymous users post, and I achieved this result with a plugin. But I need those posts to be held and approved by administrators, and send administrators an email when a new topic or message is sent.

Moderator held plugin is not compatible with newer version of bbpress, is there any other (also partial) solution?

Thanks in advance, best regards.

[_ck_]

https://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/mass-delete-users/

and this plugin will let you create domain blacklists I think

https://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/restrict-registration-for-bbpress/

or blocklist allows you to block based on email as well

https://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/blocklist/

[frooyo]

Has anyone heard updates on bbPress (WP plugin)?

I only ask since it’ll effect this project fork.

[_ck_]

also, this is a better way to link your PDF, even foxit has security issues from time to time and people have to be insane to use adobe with it’s exploit-of-the-month

https://docs.google.com/gview?url=http://kevinjohngallagher.com/downloads/I_want_to_fork_bbPress.pdf

[_ck_]

I totally agree that _ck_’s involvement is crucial.

Y’all don’t need me. I highly encourage you to keep going with the fork and there doesn’t have to be just one fork.

Remember, WordPress itself is just one (big) fork (of b2evolution).

I’ll be taking a sabbatical for the rest of the year starting next month or so as I have serious real-life things to deal with, and then *maybe* announcing my own project next year in the spring. Instead of a fork it will be a 50% or more rewrite of the entire core, fixing a few legacy problems. But it would not be available to the public for at least a year from now at the soonest and it won’t be fully backwards compatible.

It literally took me three years but I kinda figured out an indirect way of doing something like this. Part of the solution is so simple that I guarantee WordPress will “steal” the idea within six months of me publishing the code because it’s backwards compatible and a great idea that no-one else apparently has thought of yet for some mysterious reason. I’ve already tested a proof-of-concept and it’s one of those things that once you see it, everyone says “well that’s so simple anyone could have thought of it”. But no one has, yet.

[rajada]

So I have this bbPress install, integrated with Word Press, and I’d like to get a few items for the user while he/she views his/her profile. The issue is I don’t know how to retrieve from the Word Press database and all the threads i’ve found on custom profile fields either have the ability to change that (not what I want) or don’t even mention Word Press. Can anyone point me in a direction here? I need help on writing a function to append the Profile page and tips on how to grab data from WPDB in bbPress.

[_ck_]

Looking good!

Now just put some margin on your #content box (for bbpress) and it will be set, ie.

#content {margin:0 50px;}

unless you want it to touch the sides.

Isn’t it great how easy bbpress can be shoved into existing pages?

[maxumimike]

I’ve followed a guide to get the themes integrated.

Other than tweaking the BBPress theme, it’s basically all working now.

Bye-bye iFrame!

[kevinjohngallagher]

it’s really “I want to manage a bbPress fork. Here’s my feature wishlist. Who wants to code it?”

Haha, thanks for telling people what I actually meant Paul, but I’m a half (quarter?) decent developer. Not as good as some of the great developers we have around here already, but but i’m more than happy to get my hands dirty when needed.

Right now, we’ve alot of exceptionally talented Developers, and not so much in the PM/BA department, and I’m merely trying to fill the gap I can be most helpful in. Apologies to all those that my document offended enough to take pot-shots at the language used.

It’s a high level effort of one person to kick start something bigger than himself, if its all the same with yourself, i’ll hold off on the low level fine tuning for quite some time, even though you raise some interesting points.

We’ve a software to save

[_ck_]

Looks great but frame is definitely not the way to do it

If the part on top is just html, copy the html into bbpress’s header.php and make sure you include the stylesheet.

If it’s being rendered by wordpress, just copy the final result (use the view selected source feature on Firefox, etc.)

Although I would not attempt what I am recommended unless you know html+css.

[_ck_]

@ms420 that’s not how they do it here,

you just post your contact info and then we close the thread.

[frooyo]

Any updates?

Sept 15 is only 2 days away.

[kevinjohngallagher]

@mr_pele

thanks for the kind words.

I’ve also replied to your email.

@ashfame

Great to hear from you mate, and to have your support.

No doubt there will be differnt opinions, but with many people pulling in the same direction, i’m sure we’ll find suitable compromises along the way.

[maxumimike]

First time I installed BBPress it didn’t work, for some odd reason there was no way to login.

So I wiped away and re-installed and now it’s all working. At the moment I’m using a downloadable theme and integrating the forum into my WordPress just by using an iFrame on a page.

It’s a bit of a naff way of doing it but the style of the forum actually works well enough with my WordPress theme that I’m contemplating keeping it and not really making any changes.

Anyway, I literally just did this an hour or so ago and I think everything’s working, feel free to take a look and tell me what you think!

http://www.maxumi.co.uk/maxumiforum/

[Paul Gregory]

The title is “I want to fork bbPress”, but it’s really “I want to manage a bbPress fork. Here’s my feature wishlist. Who wants to code it?”

Kevinjohn, one of your 4 “Key Points For Discussion” is a matter you want to draw a line under (which was covered by the word “fork” anyway), and the other three are the areas that need the least discussion and the text itself explains why they don’t need discussing.

Indeed, a number of the points you make are a natural consequence of forking (eg ‘have a new website’) followed by some adjectives (‘have a better website’). However some of the ideas point towards a more substantial rewrite – rethinking categories and changing the database schema. The “blue sky” metaphor doesn’t exactly chime with a continuation of existing code either.

You prefer to fork 0.9 rather than 1.0 but you’re open to decisions from others.

You deride duplication of effort, yet you intend to fork bbPress.

You have “Focussing development efforts on the administration of the software, over front-end user needs” as a goal, which appears to mean that having a nice admin interface without any need to edit text files is more important than having a forum that people can use.

You may possibly have meant “needs” over and above basic functionality but if there are no fancy features on the front-end, how will the support forum “show-off”?

What sort of timeline are you attaching to this project?

[wblogan]

I’ve documented how I got the theme integration to work for me. My thanks again to those here and elsewhere who helped. Twentyten and Kakumei Theme Integration

[Francesco Bigiarini]

Hi Ash. I know it. My plugin doesn’t work in some cases. But I will not change anything cause my work will quickly become completely useless when bbPress will become a plugin.

If you find the source of the problem feel free to fork it.

[Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)]

So finally we are rolling. I am with the fork definitely and I totally agree that _ck_’s involvement is crucial.

Its true that both of you are on a fork and has custom core by now but hey its certainly possible to bridge them up slowly and efforts from both of your side will emerge as one, a strong one infact.

And regarding collecting bbPress ideas, we need something on board, on the web live where everyone can see it and interact with it.

– Voting system on ideas

And we will surely need to keep it tightly integrated with WordPress to market it and make it a success. Else the WP community will not gain interest in it.

I am also in favor of a fork of bbPress 0.9

Dashboard theming can be done.

But I think there are going to be issues in different view of how you have divided things to be Core plugins and like because everyone will have a different opinion and not managing this thing can make those people turn away which is something we can’t afford. Not every one but big players. You know what I mean.

[mr_pelle]

Kevin, I’ve eagerly read your pdf and I promise you’ll hear from me soon, though my upcoming degree is sucking me all my free time…

Your idea definitely deserves more attention, man!

[kevinjohngallagher]

Release of the first draft of my proposal for the forking of the bbPress software into a separate and well managed community project.

http://www.kevinjohngallagher.com/i-want-to-fork-bbpress/

[Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)]

Contact me – ashishsainiashfameatgmaildotcom

[ms420]

I want to hire an expert to import my PhpBB forum and other contents from a PHP/MS SQL based website into bbPress and integrate with WordPress.

If you are interested please respond to this thread.

Thanks in advance.

[pagal]

I don’t know what’s the policies of Automattic regarding usernames like facebook

http://www.facebook.com/help/?faq=15109

So, can I get a username which is already registered in bbPress user database?

Someone register this username 2 years back, but he/she did not active since then, not even make a single post in bbpress or wordPress suppport or blog ( like desired-username.wordpress.com)

@Moderators / @Admin

So can I get this inactive/useless username.

I don’t want to disclose this username right now. First I want to know its feasibility.

Is it possible or not? Thanks,

With Regards

Pagal