[Mark McWilliams]

John James Jacoby: It’s active, but it’s a lot harder to calculate spam on a registered and activated user account.

What some people go through just to SPAM a forum!

[erick_paper]

I can do the scraping bit, no problem. But my question is about MySQL data pattern.

Is there any bb press documentation that shows how the mysql structure works? Entering posts is easy, but associating it with user accounts is more of an issue.

Thanks!

[erick_paper]

I can do the scraping bit, no problem. But my question is about MySQL data pattern.

Is there any bb press documentation that shows how the mysql structure works? Entering posts is easy, but associating it with user accounts is more of an issue.

Thanks!

[erick_paper]

Does anyone have this? Thanks.

[3sixty]

Thanks, but Yes, you can do this without changing htaccess. I just finally got this to work.

I think ‘tag’ is somehow a protected GET variable. I changed it to tag2 and the variable passes fine:

URL: http://mysite.com/bbpress/forum-name/?tag2=333

php: echo $_GET

Output: 333

[3sixty]

Thanks, but Yes, you can do this without changing htaccess. I just finally got this to work.

I think ‘tag’ is somehow a protected GET variable. I changed it to tag2 and the variable passes fine:

URL: http://mysite.com/bbpress/forum-name/?tag2=333

php: echo $_GET

Output: 333

[mmoore5553]

does this bring over attachments from the old forum ?

[John James Jacoby]

Regarding the migration script, it’s a super high priority item, but the plugin core needs to settle before it makes sense to start building that bridge. By the time the plugin officially launches, there will be a migration script included.

[John James Jacoby]

@gswaim – I can assure you bbPress as a WordPress plugin is no ground-hog day (although that is one of my favorite Bill Murray movies.) There’s more activity in the bbPress trac over the past 2 months than there has been in the previous 18.

Evidenced by: https://trac.bbpress.org/log/

Matt and I have shared a similar interest in having forum integration inside WordPress since 2008 when I first started using WordPress and bbPress regularly. The bbPress stand-alone can be deeply integrated with great success into WordPress. bbPress.org is a great example of how they can play nice together, as are WordPress.org and WordPress.com. All of the support forums use bbPress with shared user tables and dedicated themes to make them look the part.

But, I’m with you in that it just isn’t as turn-key simple as it could and should be.

Regarding Tadlock’s plugin, he volunteered an early iteration of his code to me which helped confirm I was on the right track and give some ideas on how to do a few things I hadn’t finished yet. So his forums haven’t fizzled, they’ve been merged into bbPress so he doesn’t need to bare the burden of supporting another large library of code, and instead he can contribute back to it when he has time or needs something specific.

Regarding my job with Automattic, progress slowed because every new employee does a 3 week training session with the Happiness Engineer team. It just so happened that my 3 weeks ended as the holiday season began. Not due to lack of importance, just not-so-good timing for writing code.

[Mark McWilliams]

gswaim: Then Justin Tadlock was going to knock one out and that also fizzled. He had a pretty decent looking forum in a matter of weeks, but it was never finished. Or at least it was never released.

If you want to read a particular thread that talked about it (maybe in a little more detail) but more importantly a reply from Justin Tadlock, then that might give you a little more insight as to why he never released it! Hope that helps a little?

[gswaim]

At the Raleigh 2009 WordCamp, when given the chance to present a question to Matt, I asked:

“What is the status of bbPress?”

His response was that bbPress was alive and well and he wanted to develop it as a plug-in so the masses could easily implement it.

I asked this question then because I really needed a forum and I wanted to stick with a WP solution. Two years have passed and adding a forum to my site has become my “Ground Hog Day.” I work hard at it, but somehow every morning when I wake up my site still doesn’t have a forum.

Over the last two years I have installed about every forum solution on the market (I think I installed SimplePress at least 3 times). They all looked like an add-on, so they got pulled.

Then Justin Tadlock was going to knock one out and that also fizzled. He had a pretty decent looking forum in a matter of weeks, but it was never finished. Or at least it was never released.

I have to admit when I saw this reply from JJJ,

With the holidays coming up and starting my new job at Automattic, progress on the plugin is going to slow down for a week or two.”

it seemed like another Ground Hog Day to me. I would have thought that having the lead developer of the bbPress plug-in working for Matt (who adamantly supports the bbPress plug-in),the project would have gone faster, not slower.

I am not trying to be critical. I just wanted to put some historical perspective on this project. In my humble opinion, for WP to be considered a CMS, it needs to have a forum core plug-in. I am sure I am not alone in wanting to see this major missing piece fall into place.

I am not a coder and I can only sit back and keep my fingers crossed that one morning I wake up and my WP-powered site is truly a CMS with a WP supported forum.

Thanks for the hard work. Let’s push on. I can smell the end zone!

[Mark McWilliams]

John James Jacoby: With WordPress 3.1 almost in its third release candidate, we can expect it to ship really, really soon. That said, it makes sense to drop 3.0 support and focus on 3.1.

I agree, it brings in new features we can take advantage of, which cuts out half the hassle that’d be needed to get them working in the first place! — Why try and rebuild something we can already use?

[rxtalk]

I’ve uploaded the files onto my server, but I keep getting an error message. I do not have wp loaded. Was told to rename bb-config-sample.php to bb-config.php. I tried this in Firezilla by rightclicking the file (not sure if that was a correct step but the instructions do not provide which tool to use to change the file’s name). Nevertheless, I’m getting an error message. Any advice would be GREATLY appreciated.

[rxtalk]

So frustrated!

[rxtalk]

So frustrated!

[rxtalk]

Can that be done in Firezilla?

[rxtalk]

Can that be done in Firezilla?

[citizenkeith]

Yes, change bb-config.php. You’ll need to edit the setting in that file first.

[citizenkeith]

Yes, change bb-config.php. You’ll need to edit the setting in that file first.

[Mark McWilliams]

Oh that (all of the above) sounds like me from the other day!

John James Jacoby: […] we’re up to 32 individual template files […]

Man alive I didn’t think we had that many?!?!?!?!?

John James Jacoby: […] to be as simple to understand as possible without tons of proprietary functions or complex logic to figure out. To do that, we’ve split some of the files into ‘parts’ that focus on specific functionalities. Some of this doesn’t make a whole lot of sense right now because of lack of documentation […]

I agree with (and like) the idea to split some of the files into ‘parts’ as you put it JJJ which has already been done, and yes the documentation might not be there right now, but I don’t think that’s the main ‘problem’ here if we can call it that?

While I don’t has access to a demo, either locally or online that’s fully up-to-date it makes it hard to comment on some of the newer stuff committed, after my PC decided it didn’t want to be a PC anymore!

John James Jacoby: We also have an empty folder for a theme named ‘bbp-default’ which will more than likely be a full-featured theme that flexes a bit more bbPress muscle.

In my eyes, it’ll be interesting to see how this will differ from ‘bbp-twentyten’ but I’m sure I’ll be proven wrong and all that! — But while Twenty Ten is still the default theme for WordPress, I think it’s fair to say ‘bbp-twentyten’ still has to flex the bbPress muscle too?

John James Jacoby: I think when bbPress has more eyes on the code and more developers start integrating forum files into their themes, we’ll see some really neat things start to happen.

Yes more eyes would go down a treat, and I do believe developers will become more interested one all the basic core is complete, and they can see the best way of theming a particular area for example?

Until then though, if we could get the Developer Chats up and running again I think it’d help a lot of people voice an opinion on certain areas, setup the equivalent of WPDEVEL but for bbPress on bbPress.org right from the start. Plus as another thought, maybe some blog posts / forum posts similar to whats done on WordPress.org for people to leave feedback and/or requests!

JJJ, you know my thoughts, I’ve probably left them all over the place but who cares … you’ve got them one way or another! Another ‘key player’ who I’d say was very interested in the bbPress Plugin is Justin Tadlock, and as a Theme Man himself, (I might be wrong) but his thoughts into the whole templates for ‘bbp-twentyten’ or indeed any theme, would be very much appreciated by all?

#overandout

[Mark McWilliams]

Oh that (all of the above) sounds like me from the other day!

John James Jacoby: […] we’re up to 32 individual template files […]

Man alive I didn’t think we had that many?!?!?!?!?

John James Jacoby: […] to be as simple to understand as possible without tons of proprietary functions or complex logic to figure out. To do that, we’ve split some of the files into ‘parts’ that focus on specific functionalities. Some of this doesn’t make a whole lot of sense right now because of lack of documentation […]

I agree with (and like) the idea to split some of the files into ‘parts’ as you put it JJJ which has already been done, and yes the documentation might not be there right now, but I don’t think that’s the main ‘problem’ here if we can call it that?

While I don’t has access to a demo, either locally or online that’s fully up-to-date it makes it hard to comment on some of the newer stuff committed, after my PC decided it didn’t want to be a PC anymore!

John James Jacoby: We also have an empty folder for a theme named ‘bbp-default’ which will more than likely be a full-featured theme that flexes a bit more bbPress muscle.

In my eyes, it’ll be interesting to see how this will differ from ‘bbp-twentyten’ but I’m sure I’ll be proven wrong and all that! — But while Twenty Ten is still the default theme for WordPress, I think it’s fair to say ‘bbp-twentyten’ still has to flex the bbPress muscle too?

John James Jacoby: I think when bbPress has more eyes on the code and more developers start integrating forum files into their themes, we’ll see some really neat things start to happen.

Yes more eyes would go down a treat, and I do believe developers will become more interested one all the basic core is complete, and they can see the best way of theming a particular area for example?

Until then though, if we could get the Developer Chats up and running again I think it’d help a lot of people voice an opinion on certain areas, setup the equivalent of WPDEVEL but for bbPress on bbPress.org right from the start. Plus as another thought, maybe some blog posts / forum posts similar to whats done on WordPress.org for people to leave feedback and/or requests!

JJJ, you know my thoughts, I’ve probably left them all over the place but who cares … you’ve got them one way or another! Another ‘key player’ who I’d say was very interested in the bbPress Plugin is Justin Tadlock, and as a Theme Man himself, (I might be wrong) but his thoughts into the whole templates for ‘bbp-twentyten’ or indeed any theme, would be very much appreciated by all?

#overandout

[rxtalk]

Still getting an error message…

[rxtalk]

Still getting an error message…

[John James Jacoby]

@tieptoep – The alpha will probably not have a migration script from stand-alone to plugin, but we’ll more than likely put it in the WP.org plugin extend to engage a larger audience.

[rxtalk]

Thanks! Before I point my browser to the above location, am I suppose to change the bb-config-sample.php to bb-config.php??