I wish I knew about the integration problem before I upgraded to 2.6. I’m experiencing more problems than the upgrade is worth. Like someone said above, 2.6 is not really anything special.
Is there any surefire way of downgrading back to WordPress 2.5.1? I have backups but made a few posts since then and don’t want to lose them.
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I’ve decided to go with bbPress for my new website because of my love for WordPress because of the relative ease of user integration and it’s light weight. I have everything nailed down except that I’d like to customize my installation to show categories like other forum software, i.e.:
Category
+Forum
+Forum
+Forum
Category
+Forum
+Forum
+Forum
You get the idea I’m sure. I’ve searched quite a bit and found only some posts from a year ago where this was brought up and supposedly this is in the trunk now. Has anyone managed to do this to a current stable installation or know how I could do it myself? It seems there used to be patches that did this for old revisions and I thought about playing with them to try to produce the desired effect on the current stable version. Has anyone else tried that?
I figure one option I _could_ use is trying out the current trunk (which I have almost up and running, got it installed but have an error that says it cannot find the uri) but I worry about stability.
I’d appreciate some tips and tricks if anyone has any. The lack of organization isn’t a deal breaker but it would be very nice. I don’t feel like waiting until version 1.0 which I know will be a long way off and I don’t want to try to cram together wordpress and another bloated beast of a forum like phpbb3.
Appreciate these things are always developing and improving, though the integration of the two is an important part of their dual improvement, so perhaps some notification via the WordPress panel which says, do NOT upgrade yet if you are using the current version of bbpress perhaps…?
As of fairly recently, other users and I have only been able to post in Firefox. In all other browsers the error message of “Your attempt to create this topic has failed.” comes up.
The bbPress is not hooked up to a WordPress install, and is running no plugins. I haven’t touched the core code, only the template files (and I’m aware they’re slightly out in IE).
I’ve tried with both a newly registered account, and using my Admin account – both work in FF, but not in anything else.
If anyone could offer some guidance as to why this may be, it would be greatly appreciated.
The URL is: http://support.westciv.com
Cheers
Guy
Thank you. I removed it without negatively affecting WordPress.
…If you are using bbPress, you are considered an “early adopter”
I have noticed of late that early users of bbpress are now being categorised as ‘early adopters’ whereas one of the reasons I used it was that it was described thus:
- Light and fast
- Tired of getting your forum hacked? etc
- Integrates easily with WordPress
- If we could re-write WordPress, it would be a lot like bbpress
All of the above suggesting that it was a ‘finished product’ and technically superior to WordPress in some respects.
What features will the ‘released version’ have and will there always be integration problems? Will bbpress adopt common forum features or develop unique features of its own?
“Glad you got it working but I really dislike “display names” and I think it’s the worst concept in WordPress. Very bad idea to allow users to spoof other names. Even the “impostercide” plugin doesn’t solve all the issues. No other blog/forum system has such a quirky concept.”
I think the same. In a forum it doesn’t make much sense. What if i want to send a private message to a user ? If he changes his display name and avatar it could be very hard to find who he really is. It shouldn’t be allowed in a forum with a lot of users, it could get extremely chaotic.
Until now, I never had problems with Flickr rss (I mean these cool latest 75×75 images) because I was using WordPress plugins. But now, I have no idea how to put latest images from Flickr group in my bbPress. I was reading API docs for two days now, and I don’t understand it completely 
.
Can anybody help? Or more, anyone have proper plugin? .
No problem. I like to keep WordPress up to date and the XDForum plug-in was holding me back.
Note that bbPress is not a finished final product. It’s pre-release and therefore in a state of flux. bbPress has always been a bit behind WordPress changes. If you are using bbPress, you are considered an “early adopter” and therefore you have to accept that things aren’t going to be perfect.
No one but maybe Sam or MDA can say when bbPress will have a release that’s 2.6 compatible. There is code in the trunk that supposedly will work but I wouldn’t recommend using the trunk. It has to be ported to the 0.9 branch and then tested. I suspect they may even wait for the 1.0 beta release and I don’t know if that’s two weeks away or two months away.
Again, there is nothing special about the WP 2.6 release – it only has a handful of extra features and no security bug fixes over 2.5.1 – in fact people are having a bunch of little problem with 2.6 still so why rush to upgrade? I was able to easily downgrade back to 2.5.1 with no problems.
I really don’t understand the statement that “it will be a while” before they upgrade bbpress! I upgraded to 2.6 as my website (blog) is the most important part and I wanted to add bbpress as a side thing. It confuses me that they company that owns both products is basically telling you to downgrade back to 2.5.1 on WordPress to get the two things working! I will never do that… I will just have to wait for the bbpress update.. but the “awhile” part really makes me concerned! Is that months from now? Or weeks?
After a successful install, I was messing around with the settings to sync with wordpress. Afterwards, I get this database error too. WTF?
Now I cannot log in to the bbpress to change anything. I’m hosed. Looks Like I’ll ned to reinstall!!!
Any idears how to fix this or what when wromng?
Security considerations and table of contents added.
A bit more later.
Ragekage, to make a plugin, just copy all of the code for the function from pluggable.php inbetween the IF statemate and then edit as desired. Add the simple plugin comment header and save to your desired filename.
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I have done it look :-
http://www.picbi.com/
Ok guys, im loving this bbPress more and more. I hacked the bbPress_Latest_Discussion plugin to get them showing up WITH THE GRAVATARS on my wordpress frontpage.
If anyone needs this email me, ill tell you how i did it, its a bit too long to post it here.
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This is a great idea CK. I’m still working on my plugin for that display name issue and I’ll put that up once it’s finished. I’ve never made one before lol.
As long as WordPress was installed first and you were using wordpress tables for users, you should be fine.
I’m not sure why you don’t just roll back to 2.5.1 though.
Good day all,
I realize that this sounds like an unusual question, but are there any special instructions for properly removing integration between WordPress and bbPress?
I just upgraded to WordPress 2.6, which broke cookie sync with bbPress leaving me with a semi-crippled integration. When I was using WordPress 2.5.1 the login integration worked like a charm thanks to bbPress 0.9.0.2’s easier integration with WordPress. However, I have other reasons for wanting to remove bbPress for the time being.
Here is what my approach would be like:
0. Backup my entire web space (<100MB) and databases (<2MB).
1. Disable all bbPress plugins.
2. Delete the bbPress installation (resides in /forum on my web space).
3. Manually remove the bb_ tables from the shared WordPress-bbPress database.
I am worried about #3 and if it is safe to do. What are your recommendations? Thanks for your help!
Malfhok, you’ll discover WordPress 2.6 is maintaining a separate set of cookies to bbPress if you trying logging out and back in. Also try logging in as a regular user and notice you don’t have login sync anymore between the two programs.
@Malfhok: Try logging out, clearing your browser’s cookies/temporary files and logging in again. Is your login session transferred to bbPress/Wordpress?
Because I didn’t want to lose my cookies within Firefox (which made me falsely believe that the integration was still working), I tried logging in through Internet Explorer and it was then that I noticed the broken integration.
== Security Considerations when Integrated ==
If for some reason you are on a shared server that uses subdomains and you do not own/control the entire domain (ie. myblog.example.com johnsblog.example.com) or your URL has a tilde in it (“~”) ie. example.com/~myblog/ and you do not own the entire domain (ie. earthlink.com) my cookie advice above is not a good idea and you will have to customize – ask for help.
The reason why is related to some of the cookie changes in WordPress 2.6 – essentially cookies set to the
domain of “.example.com” will get transmitted to the server for ANY subdomain on the server (myblog.example.com will also see the cookies for johnsblog.example.com) The same thing goes for the cookie path in that cookies set to the path of webroot (“/”) will be sent to both example.com/~myblog/ as well as example.com/~johnsblog/ – malicious code on another subdomain or path could snoop on the cookies and steal your admin access to your blog/forum or pretend to be another user.
WordPress 2.6 (and a future version of bbPress) use separate cookies for admin access that can be locked down to very specific paths as well as different cookies for SSL access. This is an attempt to make sure that cookies which give admin access get transmitted as little as possible and only to the specific server/account that needs it so snooping hackers can’t spoof you.
Note this is only a concern if you do NOT control your own server (ie. other people can run PHP on YOUR domain name) or perhaps if you run a WPMU setup. Otherwise, setting the dotted cookie domain and webroot path is the simplest way to get integration cookie sync.
== Users Registered via bbPress appear as “anonymous” in WordPress ==
This is a bug on the bbPress side where it does not define and insert a “display name” during registration. See this post for a fix (which should be done via plugin and not a core edit). I suspect it will be fixed soon in a newer release.
== Loss of Admin Access ==
It is possible (most likely during REVERSE integration) for admin access to be lost on the bbPress or WordPress side after you integrate a new install. This is because the role of keymaster is stored in the user-meta and if you have gone from BB_USERS to WP_USERS (and BB_USERMETA to WP_USERMETA) , suddenly there is no longer a level set for the user. So the password/login will work but not admin access.
Fixing this requires the role to be inserted back in the usermeta. This used to require editing the table (ie. with PHPMYADMIN) but I also created a basic plugin to handle the most basic case. Note it requires the keymaster to be user #1. If not, you will have to “hand edit”.
== Integrating WordPress and bbPress Roles ==
Unfortunately I have no experience in this area as it’s a new feature but maybe someone else can contribute. Seems fairly straightforward though and can be found at the bottom of the integration admin menu page.
== WordPress & bbPress Cookies ==
We’re going to ignore the new WordPress 2.6 cookie method for now and focus on 2.5+0.9 (2.6 triples the complexity)
FIVE things must be identical in WordPress and bbPress configuration for cookies to be sync’ed and logins to be shared:
1. DATABASE secret key
2. wp-config.php/bb-config secret key
3. cookie DOMAIN
4. cookie PATH
5. cookie hash
If ANY of these are not the same, you will get a weird effect where you can be logged into WordPress and not into bbPress or visa-versa and you won’t be automatically logged into one or the other.
#1 can only be seen under /wordpress/wp-admin/options.php and copied to /bbpress/bb-admin/options-wordpress.php
#2 must be edited in each file as appropriate
wp-config.php
@define(‘SECRET_KEY’,’blahblahblah’);
bb-config.php
@define(‘BB_SECRET_KEY’,’blahblahblah’);
#3 & #4 should be edited in each file as appropriate
#5 is the tricky part – in theory bbPress should create the same hash as WordPress if #1 & #2 are the same but sometimes it gets it wrong for one reason or another. You can override the hash and force it to be identical in both programs. There is no easy way to see what hash WordPress is using, you either have to examine your cookies with a bookmarklet or web developer tool or install a plugin that lets you see/edit your WordPress cookies.
