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September 16, 2010 at 8:04 pm #35375

Topic: Suddenly "?>" displays on the top line of all bbPress pages

in forum Troubleshooting

suomynona
Member

Several days ago I did a new install of bbpress in my wordpress root on localhost/, checked it out and all looked fine. My intention is to work through the integration of wp and bbp, but I didn’t have time to work with it then, so I went back today to try it out and find that there’s a misplaced “?>” displaying at the top of every page – before the header. I also noticed that the footer on the Appearance page of the admin panel runs across the Kakumei-blue theme so that the activate link is inaccesible.

I’ve messed around with it for a few hours – saved my bb-config.php, deleted bbpress/ and replaced it from the zip; checked permissions; repaired my mysql database; restarted my apache2 and mysql services; checked the header.php; cleared my browser cache… I’m at a loss to understand this.

?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd"> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en-US"> <head> <meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=8" /> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" /> <title>bbPress Bulletin Board</title>
<link rel="stylesheet" href="http://localhost/wordpress/bbpress/bb-templates/kakumei/style.css" type="text/css" />

<link rel=”alternate” type=”application/rss+xml” title=”bbPress Bulletin Board » Recent Posts” href=”http://localhost/wordpress/bbpress/rss.php” />

<link rel=”alternate” type=”application/rss+xml” title=”bbPress Bulletin Board » Recent Topics” href=”http://localhost/wordpress/bbpress/rss.php?topics=1″ />

<meta name=”generator” content=”bbPress 1.0.2″ />

</head>

I’m just short of removing the database and starting over, which would be the quick and easy way out, but I would like to figure it out for the heck of it. Any ideas will be appreciated.

September 16, 2010 at 6:50 pm #35374

Topic: After Deep Integration Theme Help

in forum Themes

Paralys
Member

I have had a wordpress website now for some time and think its amazing first off.

My website is a gaming website for online gaming of all kinds, I wanted to install a high end discussion board/forum and after trying out a few ‘simple to install’ ones I wanted to get bbpress.

I have followed this guide: http://www.wpwebhost.com/make-bbpress-theme-match-with-wordpress-by-deep-integration/ …Step by step as my knowledge of coding isnt that great.

After hours of trying I finally got everything working!!

The problem I am facing is now getting it to ‘Fit’ to my current theme. Atm it just looks like alot of misplaced writing etc.

I think it may have something to do with the theme editing as i wasnt 100% sure what to put in there. I replaced bb_get_header(); ?> for get_header(); ?> <div id=”content class=”narrowcolumn” role=”main” and like wise for the footer but not certain if it is the right layout for my theme

my website is http://www.prime-gaming.com

link to the bbress http://www.prime-gaming.com/Forum

Thanks in advance

September 16, 2010 at 4:20 pm #94067

In reply to: Parse error: functions.core.php

chrishajer
Participant

What changed recently? Any new plugins, upgrades, upgrades to the server? Upgrade to WordPress?

September 16, 2010 at 2:59 pm #80583

In reply to: After BBP was intergrated into WP, how can I make it(bbp) accessible inside WP?

lmsook10
Member

Sorry that I’m so ignorant of WordPress. I found Permalink Settings in WordPress Dashboard (admin), and there, which should I choose(maybe Custom Structure?) and set what value?

Thanks.

September 15, 2010 at 8:10 pm #35371

Topic: WordPress bbPress Synchronization plugin

in forum Requests & Feedback

Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)
Participant

Does this plugin work flawlessly or it has some issues in the long run or anything else for that matter?

http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/wordpress-bbpress-syncronization/

Would like to hear from someone who has been using it for quite some time.

September 15, 2010 at 6:52 pm #80582

In reply to: After BBP was intergrated into WP, how can I make it(bbp) accessible inside WP?

nood
Member

Assuming you have permalinks set up, create a page with the permalink forums so the full url would be http://localhost/wordpress/forums

Because the directory exists, when someone goes to the page they will end up on your forum.

September 15, 2010 at 2:48 pm #32092

Topic: After BBP was intergrated into WP, how can I make it(bbp) accessible inside WP?

in forum Troubleshooting

lmsook10
Member

Hello,

I’m new in both WP and BBP, but have some background with PHP.

I’m building a website using WP 3.0 Twenty Ten theme, and one of page needs bulletine board, so I decided to use BBPress for that.

Thanks for http://1plusdesign.com/articles/bbpress-wordpress-integration/ I could install bbpress under my WP site (http://localhost/wordpress) like http://localhost/wordpress/forums and if I go to http://localhost/wordpress/forums directly, I can see the bbpress forum, but my question is without direct accessing to the url (http://localhost/wordpress/forums),how can someone from my WP site go to the forum page? For instance, I have a page called Forum in my WP site, and I would like if someone clicks(goes to) the page, it will display http://localhost/wordpress/forums

Thanks for your reply.

September 15, 2010 at 1:59 pm #93893

In reply to: Can I take back a username that has already been claimed?

_ck_
Participant

Mods have no control over that and I highly doubt admin will bother because of display names giving you the ability to rename anyone to anything else.

Asking on bbpress.org is probably also a bad idea, use the more highly trafficked wordpress.org

September 15, 2010 at 10:25 am #76442

In reply to: bbPress plugin September 15?

John James Jacoby
Keymaster

I’ve been side tracked with BuddyPress bugs and paying work, so don’t expect anything official for a week or two. I have a few projects coming up fast that will need this working so while I’m missing my soft Sept 15 deadline, I don’t think it will be /too/ far off.

Sorry to disappoint, it’s no fun… and thanks for your patience with me and it.

For the record, I love bbPress. I have a few commits going into 1.1, and I have every intention of making bbPress be the best it can be as a WordPress plugin.

Regarding my motivation and priority, it’s to make great forum software that fits inside WordPress; nothing more and nothing less.

Regarding why I was able to step into this role, it’s because our peers believe I am capable, and I am willing to dedicate time and effort towards it getting it done.

Regarding any possible benefit BuddyPress might see, is a welcome bonus but not a priority. BuddyPress/bbPress processing times should decrease with BuddyPress 1.2.6, as a few tweaks have been made and a bug or two have been patched in that regard. Even still, nothing compares to the blazing fast speed of bbPress by itself, even in the slower 1.x branch.

Regarding everything else, I’m just here to write the best code I can, help make bbPress a great WordPress plugin, and have fun doing it all. So far, so good on my end.

September 14, 2010 at 10:12 pm #76439

In reply to: bbPress plugin September 15?

_ck_
Participant

For those not familiar with BuddyPress or how it uses bbPress, let me give you a quick example.

Here is a typical BuddyPress group’s discussion area (without forums it’s just a group of bloggers which also can be done with basic buddypress but it’s boring)

http://culturadigital.br/groups/banda-infinnita/forum/

Here it is natively inside the bbPress engine:

http://www.culturadigital.br/forum/forum.php?id=151

If you look back on their bbpress front-page you can see how all the groups are exposed as individual forums. This is how buddypress needs bbpress.

(I have no association at all with that site, it’s just a rare example of behind the scenes – unfortunately this kind of demo is not possible on most buddypress sites because JJJ has learned over time to “lock down” bbpress to prevent direct examination)

BuddyPress doesn’t need the bbPress front-end, at all. But it desperately needs the backend. And JJJ needs that backend to be faster and not have to load it’s own core. So by switching it to use WordPress’s core, buddyPress will be faster.

ps.the buddypress version of the forum takes FIVE times longer to render than the bbpress version – I’m not talking about the time to send the extra images on the page, I’m talking just server time to render the page. And that’s against bbPress 1.0, not 0.9

September 14, 2010 at 9:27 pm #76436

In reply to: bbPress plugin September 15?

_ck_
Participant

Let me clarify for those that don’t follow.

BuddyPress is JJJ’s pet project.

Buddypress relies on WordPress, currently it’s technically a “plugin” to WordPress.

Buddypress (pre-1.3) uses bbpress standalone to manage it’s groups by using bbpress’s engine to manage forums (buddypress “groups” technically are forums with specific memberships to limit who can post to where).

JJJ sees that there are far too many layers and way too much code being loaded which is making buddypress too slow. So his plan is to more closely tie bbpress into WordPress, making buddypress faster.

His motivation is not to improve bbpress for the sake of making bbpress better. He doesn’t need the front end of bbpress at all for buddypress. He already manages it through buddypress.

So by reinventing bbpress to use wordpress’s core, he can cut out some of the bulk and make buddypress faster. BuddyPress is currently very slow and bulky unless you have a decent server and good caching setup.

Taking control of bbPress is a side project to help buddypress for JJJ and he’ll never convince me otherwise about his motivations.

Note I am NOT saying you won’t be able to run bbPress without buddypress, of course you will be able to (because that’s even less complicated) But that’s not his motivation or priority, at all.

@frooyo

0.7-0.9 bbPress standalone, high speed core independent of WP

1.0-1.1 bbPress relies on backpress core, which uses WP functions (150% larger)

1.2/2.0 bbPress relies on WordPress 3+ for it’s core (200% larger)

If you think hooking into the bulk that is WP 3.x is going to make bbPress faster, well there’s going to be a mighty big wake up call sometime soon. It will make page caching easier, but that’s good because it’s practically going to be a requirement.

JJJ’s only motivation to do this is because his pet buddypress project relies on the bulk of WP so the logic is might as well force bbPress to also.

TL;DR bbPress rewrite makes buddypress faster but bbpress by itself slower than 0.9/1.1

September 14, 2010 at 9:23 pm #93996

In reply to: Installing bbPress after uninstall BuddyPress

alexborras
Participant

I managed to install manually configuring forum bb-config.php file and uploading to the bbPress folder. The bbPress database is different from WordPress.

September 14, 2010 at 9:07 pm #76435

In reply to: bbPress plugin September 15?

Rich Pedley
Member

No that’s wrong.

bbPress as a plugin for WordPress as a standalone plugin is being developed.

bbpress as a standalone still exists as this time.

bbpress does not rely on buddyPress.

buddyPress (as far as I am aware, but I could be wrong) uses an older version of bbPress.

As JJJ maintains buddyPress which uses bbPress it is only natural for him to ensure the 2 work together.

September 14, 2010 at 7:39 pm #76433

In reply to: bbPress plugin September 15?

_ck_
Participant

Y’all don’t seem to notice that JJJ is mostly rewriting bbPress so it will work better with buddyPress specifically.

So bbPress 1.2 (please call it 2.0) being reinvented is tied directly to buddyPress 1.3

If you want clues, I’d be looking at buddyPress 1.3 release dates, not any specific commitments to bbPress itself.

https://trac.buddypress.org/milestone/1.3

Unless they are going to sweep a great deal of tickets under the rug (which happens often with WordPress so it’s not impossible with BP either) you’ve got a bit of a wait.

The key to understanding what is happening is that buddyPress is his pet project and bbPress is used as the internal engine for buddyPress groups. So if he rewrites one, has has to rewrite the other.

I didn’t completely realize this until I recently started studying what had changed in buddypress to understand why JJJ wanted to hijack bbPress. buddypress right now is essentially bloatpress and what he is doing to bbpress is specifically for his own ends to reduce BP bloat, not for the general good of bbpress users.

There are about 1000 (active) sites using bbpress inside of buddypress, so bbpress standalone is essentially being waylaid for those sites.

September 14, 2010 at 5:43 pm #94014

In reply to: gravitar question and a few others

_ck_
Participant

The wordpress plugin would have to be adapted for bbpress.

September 14, 2010 at 5:04 pm #35352

Topic: gravitar question and a few others

in forum Themes

VirtualityStudio
Member

is there a way to change the default gravitar to something custom? i’m not talking about a member’s gravitar, but the one that shows up if they have not personalized it. there is a plugin to do this in wordpress, but i haven’t found one in bbpress yet.

also something i noticed is that under the gravitar… where the member’s name shows up, when you click on it the link takes you directly to their website instead of to their member profile……….. has anyone come across that and figured out a way to change that?

does bbpress have a permalinks option like wordpress does?

thanks!!!!!

September 14, 2010 at 4:20 pm #35351

Topic: bbpress integrated with WordPress integrated with Active Directory

in forum Plugins

ethanthekiwi
Participant

I integrated bbpress (1.0.2) with WordPress (3.0.1) successfully and integrated WordPress with Active Directory using the Simple LDAP login plugin. I can log in to WordPress then go to bbpress and be logged in still, but if I am not logged in, I cannot login through bbpress using active directory credentials. I can login to bbpress using an account that I created in WordPress. I have WordPress and bbPress installed in different databases, but bbPress uses the WordPress users database. Because the passwords are not stored in the WordPress database, (they are stored in Active Directory) it does not access them. My goal is to create a forum that is simple as possible for my organization’s intranet.

My system:

Turnkey Linux WordPress Appliance

WordPress 3.0.1

bbPress 1.0.2

September 14, 2010 at 2:59 pm #76431

In reply to: bbPress plugin September 15?

Ricardo
Participant

is it this? tried to activated and it brought wordpress down on my local wampserver, had to delete plugin to get wordpress back again.

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/1038/bbpress.jpg

September 14, 2010 at 2:42 pm #76430

In reply to: bbPress plugin September 15?

Andre
Participant

Can someone please give an update on whether or not bbpress as a plugin will be available for testing this week and let us know where we need to go for updates? I check http://bbpdevel.wordpress.com/ and http://bbdevel.wordpress.com/, but neither has been updated in a while.

September 14, 2010 at 2:28 pm #76429

In reply to: bbPress plugin September 15?

Ricardo
Participant

From a user prespective

@kevinjohngallagher and _CK_

i agree with you two, specially the parts where you say bbpress.org users and mods are updated on bbpress stuff through other sites, relying on wordpress dashboard to spread the news sounds like a last minute attempt to minimize damages, but hey…nobody is perfect)

A lot of bbpress sucess is due to pluggin developers and i think its “out of order” to post bbpress news on buddypress blog, there are moderators here that are pluggin developers that feel “betrayed and hopless” because they spend countless hours and days and nobody tells them nothing… how would you feel JJJ if it was you? i’m aware nobody is perfect but you did talk about bbpress there and even linked to bbpress.org so why not say something here first? “i feel” your pain mods…

about the name change… i aalso agree it should be called bbpress 2.0 but i think that alone wont stop all the confusion around different versions… i agree with you (_CK_) but newcomers will still be confused wether its 2.0 or 1.2 because the real confusion its not the name but the several different versions.

All in all i think the next version is what a lot of users wanted (pluggin integration, no more backpress etc), thing is a lot of the sucess is due to pluggin authors that spent countless hours making sure their pluggins/themes work across several versions, now they have (or not) to start over.

2 last questions:

can we install the next version on its own? where can we download the alpha/beta of it? where is it? i would like to test even if its not fully functional like we do for wordpress, i can only find reference to the pluggin version at: http://svn.automattic.com/bbpress/branches/plugin/

not enough communication around… Good luck and thanks to everyone that works on bbpress wether coding/theming/pluggins or here maintaining the forum.

September 14, 2010 at 9:39 am #93910

In reply to: Forking bbPress: First Draft

Paul Gregory
Member

frooyo, if you see point 7.4 of the draft proposal you’ll see that it shouldn’t negatively affect this fork. Kevinjohn reckons that the bbPress plugin code and community will be excellently managed by JJJ. The fork will not prioritise integration with WordPress, meaning the fork can instead concentrate on being lightweight and modular (with 25 modules bundled in).

So that’s alright then. Oh, except at least one supporter of the fork thinks that “we will surely need to keep it tightly integrated with WordPress to market it and make it a success”.

I don’t really understand what part of bbPress it is that Kevinjohn wants to save. To me, it seems that the main thing he wants to keep from bbPress is the developers…

Right now, we’ve alot of exceptionally talented Developers, and not so much in the PM/BA department, and I’m merely trying to fill the gap I can be most helpful in.

Kevinjohn, you’re not filling a gap in bbPress, you’re creating a new project with all-new gaps and filling one or two of them.

Throughout the document you say “we” and “us” to mean either the bbPress community or the fork community. I wonder if at some points you forget that there even is a difference – that a fork is a breaking away. A new software, not a saving of the old software.

I was attracted to bbPress because it is the forum from the WordPress people and I like the tags. It is a shame that the project hasn’t flourished like WP has. I can understand that people will be attracted to a continuation of bbPress, but without the ties to WP the fork needs to stand alone with a clear identity. Heck, bbPress’s main problem is that it has a muddied identity – is it 0.9, 1.0 or plugin?

You say the proposal is a draft one, but I’m not entirely clear when/if you plan to release an amended version. I think that what you need to do after your blue-sky and requirement refinement phases is to publish a detailed proposal, a manifesto for the project, identifying what parts you’re taking from bbPress and what parts need to be rewritten, and asking “who’s with us?”.

Indeed, that’s what I hoped to see in the draft document, but instead I was disappointed by the contradictions and lack of detail. However, a definition that is refined by community consent rather than one man’s vision may well be the best start, and this fork may excite me yet.

With the fork defined clearly in a proper proposal, people who were particularly attached to rejected ideas can leave, and other developers and contributors will join. Everyone on the fork will believe in the project. You’ll know how many people are truly committed, and you can plan accordingly.

And this process will probably inspire even more forks from teams and individuals.

I suspect that the best post-bbPress projects will be rewrites of the core, like _ck_ has identified is necessary for her intriguing project. And that’s fine. Take the spirit, learn the lessons. Don’t keep bbPress code alive for the sake of it, just write the best forum software you can.

Kevinjohn, it may not seem it, but I wish your project well.

September 14, 2010 at 9:00 am #35343

Topic: Installing bbPress after uninstall BuddyPress

in forum Installation

alexborras
Participant

I have a problem with bbPress installation.

I first installed WordPress 3.0, BuddyPress and forums that come with BuddyPress.

After, disable the plugin BuddyPress and all other plugins associated with it. I will not use BuddyPress.

Upload bbPress to a new folder: http://www.mydomain.com/bbPress

With de browser go to http://www.mydomain.com/bbpress

But do not start the installation of bbPress if that appears directly in the form to register as a user of the forums.

When I try to login and then sends me to an old path BuddyPress:

http://www.mydomain.com/wp-content/plugins/buddypress/bp-forums/bbpress/bb-login.php

How I can do to install a clean bbPress without interfering with BuddyPress?

September 13, 2010 at 9:45 pm #35334

Topic: Upgrading – Admin Area Not looking good

in forum Installation

webprof
Member

Ok, so I have managed (??) to install the latest version.

But the problem now is that admin area doe not look correct. If I understand correctly it should look similar to wordpress and it does not.

Also, if I wanted to make changes to a theme, is there any way to make the changes inside the admin area or do I have make changes to the actual file and then ftp?

September 13, 2010 at 7:27 pm #93907

In reply to: Forking bbPress: First Draft

_ck_
Participant

I totally agree that _ck_’s involvement is crucial.

Y’all don’t need me. I highly encourage you to keep going with the fork and there doesn’t have to be just one fork.

Remember, WordPress itself is just one (big) fork (of b2evolution).

I’ll be taking a sabbatical for the rest of the year starting next month or so as I have serious real-life things to deal with, and then *maybe* announcing my own project next year in the spring. Instead of a fork it will be a 50% or more rewrite of the entire core, fixing a few legacy problems. But it would not be available to the public for at least a year from now at the soonest and it won’t be fully backwards compatible.

It literally took me three years but I kinda figured out an indirect way of doing something like this. Part of the solution is so simple that I guarantee WordPress will “steal” the idea within six months of me publishing the code because it’s backwards compatible and a great idea that no-one else apparently has thought of yet for some mysterious reason. I’ve already tested a proof-of-concept and it’s one of those things that once you see it, everyone says “well that’s so simple anyone could have thought of it”. But no one has, yet.

September 13, 2010 at 4:48 pm #93939

In reply to: Delighted! :D

_ck_
Participant

Looks great but frame is definitely not the way to do it

If the part on top is just html, copy the html into bbpress’s header.php and make sure you include the stylesheet.

If it’s being rendered by wordpress, just copy the final result (use the view selected source feature on Firefox, etc.)

Although I would not attempt what I am recommended unless you know html+css.
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