[_ck_]

As rude and weird as this entire topic is, the reality is the form of bbPress that you have known up to now and through 1.1 (1.2?) from Automattic is over.

Once bbPress stops being stand-alone, everything will change: all the advice on this entire forum will be mostly useless, the plugins and themes will be pointless for the WordPress plugin version of bbPress.

In fact they should probably call the plugin something other than bbPress as it will only confuse people when they search for help and resources for the plugin.

The turning point for bbPress was BackPress. The state we are in now is 100% the problem with that decision (made by Matt in January 2008, quite cavalierly IMHO).

To be more specific, bbPress based on BackPress actually would have been almost acceptable, IF, and this is critical, IF WordPress had been also converted to use BackPress. But it wasn’t and now almost obviously never will be.

So we are left with an orphaned product, not bbPress, but BackPress itself, which makes the 1.x line of bbPress a dead-end because of it’s dependency.

I need to be very careful what I say next because some people immediately jump on every word as some kind of promise, which I am not making. All I can say is that I will attempt to maintain 0.9 in my own way as long as reasonably possible (years?) until a better solution emerges (which is unlikely, but we’ll see).

Considering how it’s all up to Matt now, I’d be *more* polite to him, not less.

[Terence Milbourn]

The other big question in my mind is this.

Is bbPress going to live or morph into something else?

With the release of WP 3.0 just around the corner (I am already running WP3 RC2), what’s going to happen with bbPress then?

I am at a critical stage with my site’s development and I have to make a decision to jump one way or the other; partly because I just don’t have the time or money to develop two themes for one site.

Do I install bbPress on WP as a forum and use BuddyPress to access it? Or is something going to change and make the combination and integration of all the plugins for each and of WP3/bbPress/BuddyPress all too much of a royal pain in the petutie?

I wish someone could give me some clarity on the direction bbPress and BudyPress are going.

Someone. Anyone?

[kevinjohngallagher]

would be far better to start a new thread.

Please start a new thread!

PLEASE START A NEW THREAD.

This one started in February 2009, It’s June 2010!!!

[cm]

And for integrate bbpress with wordpress 3.0?

[_ck_]

I would contact the same person that installed your WordPress and ask them for help as it’s obvious you did not install it yourself.

You might also try an automated install but change your password afterwards and backup your database first:

http://www.simplescripts.com/script_details/script:bbPress

[kevinjohngallagher]

would be far better to start a new thread.

Please start a new thread!

[kevinjohngallagher]

I am not happy about a lot of things with bbPress, specifically it’s management and communication; which have been shockingly bad for 2 years now. I also think tht Matt really dropped the ball on bbPress and then somewhat screwed us over with his comments against the “bbpress community” in his WordCap Keynote speech.

That said:

1) Don’t hide behind a fake profile. We all have opinions, and we all agree and disagree on many things. If you’ve got something to say, and you believe this is the place to say it, have the common decency to put your name to it.

.

.

.

2) One has to differentiate between Matt the person, and Matt the Founder/CEO/Employee of Automattic. I have no doubt that Matt 100% wanted bbPress to succeed and he did help reinvigourate the project for a little while, he just dropped the ball again; but breaking his own rules:

http://ma.tt/2009/08/kill-your-community/

As I said herein the link below, Matt should have delegated bbPress to someone and kept up communication as Matt is an insanely busy dude. There is no doubt that WordPress 3.0 would take priority over bbPress, and there’s all the other pies that Matt has his finger in.

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/from-a-project-management-viewpoint

It’s not for you or me or anyone really to make demands of his or anyone else’s time. We can ask for information, especially really basic information that should be on this website – but Matt the person and Matt the head of Automattic doesn’t owe you/me/anybody anything.

.

.

.

3) I think Matt got it wrong and messed up. He did so a couple of times in a row imo. I think he then did really wrong by us publicly taking a go at the folks who keep this site going – I thought that was underhanded and a total slap in the face to all the moderators (sorry the ONLY moderator) and people who didn’t jump ship. I lost alot of respect for Matt the person when that happened.

I think he continues to allow this to spiral but not communicating with anyone in a moderator or higher position so that some of these same questions can be answered; but bbPress is not his focus, and really, thats his call to make not ours.

It’s not like it wasn’t like this for bbpress1.0’s release and bbPress0.9 release, and as Matt said, the’ve fecked this up before and nothing changes:

We’ve done this before. Relax.

— Matt

— https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/from-a-project-management-viewpoint#post-63315

.

.

.

4) I truly think this post covers my thoughts in a nice concise manner. And before making any posts like this, I strongly suggest reading it:

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/whats-happening-with-bbpress/page/5#post-64410

It followed a post by Gautam, who’s done stellar work since Matt’s departure, and was followed by the only moderator left asking a simple question and then Matt leaving the project. I think it shows the difference from where “we” the community are and where Matt is. And that’s ok, we’re all allowed to be in different places.

But posts like this is never going to be helpful.

.

.

.

5) I think it’s very very wrong to state that Matt doesn’t have “heart, soul and brain”. The man is a really nice, wonderfully warm and smart human being. He’s just fracked up on this, and for teh first time in a long time, hasn’t looked at things objectively and help up his hands (which is one of the things I admire most about Matt over the years).

And bro, with all due respect to _ck_, without warning she left the project too and closed down her forum so we couldn’t access the code or discussions on it. I think _ck_ is an amazing amazing developer, and knows bbPress inside out; but I’m not sure on what you’re basing this presumption that she (or any of us) would be better at leading a community based project. _ck_ has in the past shown some signs of not being the happiest bunny when people start asking questions.

.

.

.

6) I’m still laughing at how childish your fake profile name is. “wtfmatt”. Ha, you really should have just called yourself “impatient13yearold”.

.

.

.

7) I was trying to reference this earlier. I wrote this alomst 18 months ago now. Crazy how much of it still holds true:

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/how-to-help-us-help-bbpress

Take care,

Kev

[Gautam Gupta]

Only when you load WordPress functions in bbPress.

[haose]

Hi guys! I have a curious with this plugin. When a unregisterd user leave a comment on my blog, the username will be transfered correctly to forum, and a voice will be created. But i can not see the content of the comment.

But if i edit the comment on forum, i do see the content.

Plz help!

[Gautam Gupta]

The truth is that Matt DID come here to help the project and take on the development but it was the community (including me) who troubled Matt a lot that he left the project. Check – https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/whats-happening-with-bbpress/page/5#post-64425

Also, mdawaffe has come back and most probably bbPress development would start after WordPress 3.0’s release. And, I and several others have also been contributing to trac and chrishajer has been committing the patches to SVN.

And please do not make fake profiles, you should have guts to come here and ask this with your own original profile.

[hope1]

Hi ya, I just installed it but I don’t plan to use it for WordPress so is this possible? I would like it to stand on it’s own as a link to a new website except I get this http://www.hope-gaming.com/bbpress/ and the url i specified is this http://www.hope-gaming.com/forums/ except the latter is giving me a 404 error and the 1st one is damn basic of which I cannot log in as I am then given the error again. Is it just a case of it taking time to show up? Thanks all.

[ghettobsd]

This is what i found:

From: https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/slashes-being-added-in-front-of-apostrophes

User: baptiste

Post: Easy fix (hack) in bb-includes/template-functions.php, update this function to look like this:

function get_post_text() {

global $bb_post;

return stripslashes($bb_post->post_text);

}

May be an artifact of the wordpress integration – not sure.

The above did indeed work. But I still looked at the other posts and problems others had.

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/apostrophe-and-or-quotation-marks-cause-backslash-to-appear

user: arpowers

ok, found the answer wooooooo!

The ‘real’ reason this wasn’t working was….

‘magic_quotes_gpc’ is set to ‘off’ on my server (in php.ini)

All these other solutions are band-aids, my hunch is that making sure magic quotes is ‘on’ is the solution.

user: jackey

Putting “php_value magic_quotes_gpc 1” in my .htaccess file worked for me… for now.

The above also worked. So instead of editing the bbpress code, i just modified the .htaccess file (added to it), that 1 line fixed it. So I will go with it untill I see a problem.

Worth noting, someone said that by changing the code as per baptiste’s method could corrupt backups you make of sql. So, that was the reason I went with the .htaccess fix.

Thank you!

chrishajer: you are GhettoBSD Approved!

[chrishajer]

What is the hacking to get rid of the backtick quote problem? I’m not sure what you were trying to solve there. Was that to fix the code and backtick problem?

The escaping of single quotes on integrated installations has been covered here before.

Slashes being added in front of apostrophes

Apostrophe and or quotation marks cause backslash to appear.

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/slash-text-issue-in-10-alpha-6-have-searched

Sounds that that is your problem – escaping single quotes in an integrated installation. The hacking you did is unrelated (I think.) I confused backticks with quotation marks.

I don’t think it’s related to the keys at all. They are not used that way when posting. The worst that ever happened was that bbPress did not support the complex keys (with escaped characters) that WordPress did. But that resulted in a 500 Internal Server Error.

[Rootside]

Upgraded to WordPress RC 3, still getting the same error.

print_r($_POST); gives me the following:

Array ( [user_login] => hello [user_email] => xxxxxxx@rootside.com [user_url] => [from] => [occ] => [interest] => [Submit] => Register » )

I obscured the email address here, but it is the one I have entered in the registration form above. So it seems that user_email IS defined.

Thanks for that hint. Maybe it’s a freakish bug – nobody else has chimed in with the same problem so far – but I don’t know how many people are testing WP 3 with bbPress yet, so I’m not quite ready to re-install the whole sermon from scratch again. I’ll try setting up the same combo on a different server as soon as I can find the time, but I’m still hoping that this can be tracked down, so I don’t have to fear for the worst with every future update…

Does the information above give any of you guys an idea?

Again, greatly appreciated.

[chrishajer]

If you moved it to the html directory, and WordPress is located here http://www.example.com, then bbPress is located at http://www.example.com/bbpress (unless you changed the name of the folder.)

Also, it needs to be unzipped there – you can’t use the zipped archive. It can be unzipped on your local computer, then upload the whole folder to that html location.

If you go to http://www.example.com/bbpress with a browser, you will see the installer.

[internet]

I am really interested in finding a member list plugin that works with 1.0. I tried the one made by rayd but it does not work. I get “Page not found”

I tried the wordress and bbpress intergration so i could use the wordpress plugin but it really messed up my forums so I reverted back. Any Ideas on how I could make this work?

[kevinjohngallagher]

oh for goodness sake, that code bug is really getting on my tits.

Driz, the main thing to remember is this. these forums are aimed at making the WordPress support forums. Once you try and venture outside the functionality they have, you’re going ot hit issues which will need you to be able to read/write/investigate the source PHP files.

[kevinjohngallagher]

What I’m looking for is to have a simple forum integrated with my WP installation. It seems like bbPress is the perfect choice but now I’m not so sure

If you want a “simple forum” then bbPress fits that need.

If you want single sign on with your WordPress install, then bbPress is probably the best out there.

as of yesterday I’ve heard of buddypress… and now I’m confused

Yeah, we have to explain this every day to someone.

Truly wish anyone with Documentation rights would maybe save this as a sticky or maybe in the documentation section or something…

BuddyPress and bbPress are not connected.

BuddyPress allows you to install a forked version of bbPress. It is not the same as this bbPress. We don’t know why they kept the name. We don’t know why they don’t publicise that they are different. If you use BuddyPress in any way, we can’t help you on this forum.

It seems like the two products are made by the same people, are intended for similar purposes, but some people have both installed

BuddyPress is ‘like’ a WordPress plugin, in the same vein of a fancy WooTheme or Thesis framework. Its like an additional layer onto which other plugins can be installed.

About a year ago the BuddyPress team, under the great coding skills and direction of Andy Peatling (http://apeatling.wordpress.com/) forked and ported a version of bbPress to be run as a BuddyPress plugin.

So bbPress and BuddyPress are two different products, with different aims and goals, and some people can have both installed – just not this version of bbPress.

On top of that it seems like support for bbPress is waning

Yes.

But it will not go away or die. It runs the Automattic support forums, so its not going anywhere. It will be ported to a WrodPress plugin at some stage. Other than that sentance, we have no information on that.

If what you need is a forum, use bbPress.

If you need to build a social network (friends, groups, private messaging, activity) then use BuddyPress.

Thats basically it

[kevinjohngallagher]

I was about to point you towards https://bbpress.org/documentation/installation/ but I’ve just seen how unhelpful it is.

The realism is that if you’re “less computer savvy” then bbPress is not for you; at least, not just now anyway. You need a minimum amount of Tech no-how to get it up and running.

In order to install bbPress, you need to upload it to a server, and then navigate (type in) the corresponding URL to start the installation process.

That process has nothing to do with WordPress at all, and I strongly suggest putting bbPress in a folder below where you keep wordPress, if you decide to go ahead with it.

Can someone tell me how I would know what the “intended URL of the bbPress site” is? Is that the same as the URL of my website? Is it my WP-Admin login? I am confused.

Yes, its the URL you intend on using for bbPress.

No, it’s got nothing to do with WordPress Admin.

I am confused.

With all due respect, I don’t really believe that bbPress is for you at this point in time.

[mattyhockey]

Very latest version of WordPress and BBpress.

I did not solve the problem, but I did do a work around. I just made an if statement to check if the user is logged in. If they are, display that link. If they aren’t display the same link, but instead take them to the register page. I added a login form to the registration page as well if loginform=on in the address.

So not really sure what else I could do as I have been searching for this one for a few days!

[kevinjohngallagher]

Hi Matt,

What version of bbPress are you using, what version of WordPress, are you definately 100% not using WPMU or BuddyPress, and are you using default themese ?

Thanks

[mattyhockey]

I’m having this same problem.

This is an integrated BBpress w/ WordPress blog. When you click the “add new” link without being logged in, you are taken to a 403 error message page.

If you are logged in, you’re taken to the correct page.

What could be causing this?

I have been searching now for a few days…

[Rartemass]

I’ve started creating a blog with WordPress and it is working fine.

I now what to add in a forum (on a different page) that uses the WordPress login IDs.

I have found stuff to integrate the two but I have a question about installation directories.

WordPress is installed in mydomain/blog

Do I install bbPress there?

I wanted the forum page to be mydomain/forum

If I install to a directory with that name, can I still integrate with WordPress?

Sorry if this has been asked before but I was unable to find specif details on the forum, FAQ, or installation instructions.

[gerikg]

Learn to use an add-on feature on FireFox browser called FireBug. That can help you with what css line you need to edit (to make the grey background), etc, etc.

[ch8rt]

OK, I’ve done the integration, and I think thats all working fine. The problem is that it seems to run off the WP user table, rather than the BBPress one which has all my members in?

I’ve tried to find a solution but everything seems to be about moving stuff the other way?

So how do I import my users from BBPress into WordPress? If that is actually what I need to do.

Thanks.