[_ck_]

Very impressive.

Why not modify the CSS to match the blue links/text from your main site theme?

You can look at kakumei blue to see how easy it is to change from regular kakumei green theme to blue.

ps. I just updated Human Test to work with the BB-Anonymous-Posting plugin if that helps you too. Though sometimes it’s better to encourage people to at least register instantly rather than less manageable anonymous posting.

[my-apartment-map]

I’ve been working on this for a few weeks and its finally complete. There are still a few small bugs left and I’m sure I’ll find more, but I have launched the forum in its present state.

I’m using a few of _ck_’s pluggins. “Instant Password” and “Human Test”

I made quite a few modifications to the core to support what you might call “Virtual Forums” for lack of a better term.

My site lists apartments, I have pages for around 26,000 cities in the U.S. I wanted to have forum content on each page but didn’t want to create 26,000 forums for a few obvious reasons. The main being that probably 99% of the forums would never get any content.

My solution. I created 2 generic forums and 51 state forums. On each one of my apartment city pages I integrated the forum content from the state forum in which the city resides. For example, the Boston, MA apartment page would show content from the Massachusetts forum.

The trick is that if someone creates a topic from the Boston, MA apartment page, the topic is inserted into the bbPress DB with a new column that contains the latitude and longitude of Boston,MA.

If someone creates a topic from the Newton, MA (10 miles from Boston, MA) apartment page. The topic is inserted in the bbPress DB with the latitude and longitude of Newton, MA.

What this allows me to do is show forum content from any City in the U.S. with the forum topics sorted by distance (and secondarily by date) from the City the user is currently viewing.

To show you an example. (Scroll down under the map to view the forum content on the right hand side)

Boston Apartment page

Newton Apartment page

Each forum topic has the City and State that the user posted from prefixed to the actual forum topic.

As you can see the forum posts change order based on what city you view. This is not that useful without many forum posts, but once the forum starts to fill up it will appear that each city page contains a “Virtual” forum based on that city and the cities that are nearest to it.

Hopefully this will not only allow me to engage a much larger audience as most of the forum topics will be relevant to the page they are viewing.

Please let me know if you have any suggestions or comment. This is very much still a work and progress and can definitely be improved. The #1 thing I’m not happy with is the location of the city forums. I’m working on a redesign that would move the forums, or at least a link to the forums, up near the top of the page.

You can also view the regular apartment forum which has a modified very of the default template.

[lstelie]

lastest commit issues

Fatal error: Call to undefined function number_format_i18n() in /foo/bar/bbpress/bb-includes/functions.bb-core.php on line 231

see : http://luc.saint-elie.com/bbpress/

Luc

[kevinjohngallagher]

I know what you’re thinking, that it probably *should* be mentioned either here:

https://bbpress.org/documentation/integration-with-wordpress/

or

https://bbpress.org/download/

but it’s not

BBpress, great software, also useful for testing your abilities to mind read!

[chrishajer]

I think they just want to spread spam links. I doubt they could hurt anything unless there were a flaw found in bbPress.

Using the Human Test plugin pretty much eliminates the spam registrations:

https://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/human-test/

[kevinjohngallagher]

Great answers again _CK_.

As always you bring an authoritative voice to this discussion.

“Tables have vertical rows that can be sorted which would be 100x times harder with lists. Javascript has specific abilities on tables that don’t exist in lists. Lists do not have vertical relationships between their “cells”.”

I’m going to be one of those guys here a sec and say you’re totally and utterly wrong about this.

The DOM of a browser treats a TABLE like an XML file that it iterates through in a singular parent/child relationship.

The DOM of a browser treats a LIST like an XML file that it iterates through in a singular parent/child relationship.

Both are sorted based on their parent AND their attributes.

The perception that tables are easily sorted natively by JavaScript is only brought to the fore because libraries such as jQuery etc. have built in functions to sort tables. The same underlying code works for lists in exactly the same way.

eg. The browsers DOM can’t tell the difference between:

TABLE

– TR

– – TH

– TR

– – TD

and

DIV

– DIV

– – DIV

– DIV

– – DIV

or

OL

– LI

– – SPAN

– LI

– – SPAN

Let me give you an example again; Back to the backpacker website (real world examples are good I find).

UK (Category)

– England

– – London

– – – Travel

– – – Hostels

– Scotland

– – Edinburgh

– – – Travel

– – – Hostels

– – Glasgow

– – – Travel

– – – Hostels

Now if we output these as 1 flat tables (even with fancy CSS tags), and we use JavaScript to sort it (lets say alphabetically), we get this:

Edinburgh

England

Glasgow

Hostels

Hostels

Hostels

London

Scotland

Travel

Travel

Travel

UK (Category)

Because, again, if things are in a singular flat table structure there is not way of knowing which child belongs to which parent.

Again, i’m only advocating the use of lists for the forums, not the topic list, which is a singular list, and therefore well suited to using tabular data.

==============================================

What I want to stress here, because i’m feeling like i’m repeating myself a little and thats never good, is that i’m NOT here to get BBpress to change from tables to lists or divs or anything else.

What i’m here to discuss is that BBpress is going down a route, a route that solves one set of needs. Can you list the topics in a singular table in a singular order while the only differentiation between each row/cell is in the CSS worked out after the tag has been sent to the browser.

That is a very very singular way of doing things. My point is that all over the shop here in BBpress 1.0a we’re doing things in a singular method, and not in any way giving any for of extensibility to the software.

I use the forum parent/child output example cos it’s on the front page. I could use the example of having template functions HARD CODED in the bb-includes folder as opposed to being in the template folders. I could use the example of “forum” or “topic” being slapped before all the permalinks with no option to remove them.

Lets be honest here, in terms of changes from 1.0a1 to 1.0a2 the first 17 changes were style changes to the template file that we’re all (hopefully) going to replace with our own template.

The 3 latest changes to the repository have been to fix TYPOS in the comments.

There was 85 days, almost a 1/3 of a year between 0.9 release and 1.0alpha, and I may be wrong here but the biggest change seems to be that XML RPSeeWhoCaresAboutThisReally was added.

People are complaining about the same things on this board over and over. Most plug-ins were written over a year ago, and have been hacked to death. Vital information is stored on Page 3 of a forum thread started 18 months ago because no-ones updated the website.

Heck, saying that 0.9.0.2 the STABLE bbpress release doesn’t actually work with anything beyond 2.5.1 of wordpress, let alone the stable wordpress release of 2.6.3 ISN’T EVEN ON ANY OF THE WEBSITE PAGES. It’s stored on the forum software, in a random post.

This is not a complain against the great men and women who have done some marvellous work here, _CK_ so far is a screaming example of someone who’s given up huge amounts of time and created some amazing code, but come on.

If we try to develop something with no roadmap, no feature list; if we try to solve single problems with singular solutions; if we do this all with no documentation; heck if we do this with no project management whatsoever then we’ll end up with a bunch of things that look somewhere between a blog and a forum all with slightly different colours and a different header picture.

Then we can all pretend that we’ve build a totally extendable bit of software that every user has just decided to use exactly the same way out of pure luck, and not because they’re effectively forced to.

Heck while we’re at it, i’m going to pretend i’m Brad Pitt. Make believe is SO much fun. I’d suggest you all try it, but maybe you’re already there…

[John James Jacoby]

I’ve logged into both sides with a test account and still run into this problem. It seems that integrating with WordPress interferes with some capabilities. Like, when viewing a topic logged in as Key Master, I can see the IP addresses of people that post, and I have the link to add that topic to my favorites, but I cannot post a reply, I cannot edit the tags, and I cannot see any other admin functions; all of their capabilities return no value.

I haven’t given up yet! hah!

[Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)]

It seems blockquotes are broken on this board.

<blockquote>Test</blockquote>

gives:

Test

[_ck_]

Total shot in the dark here as I can’t debug this code but try replacing in your routine above:

<?php // $top_topics = bb_top_topics(); ?>

with

<?php // $top_topics = bb_top_topics();

global $bbdb;

$where = apply_filters('get_latest_topics_where','WHERE topic_status=0');

$query = "SELECT * FROM $bbdb->topics LEFT JOIN $bbdb->meta ON object_id=topic_id $where AND object_type='bb_topic' AND meta_key='avg_rating' ORDER BY cast(meta_value as UNSIGNED) DESC LIMIT 10";

$top_topics = bb_append_meta($bbdb->get_results($query),'topic');

?>

[mithrandir321]

After much research it seems the view ‘top-rated’ gives no results. I checked the DB and found noplace where ratings are stored. It’s really mind-boggling and a little over the top for my knowledge

Can anybody please help. I have the latest bbPress 1.0-alpha-2 and bbRatings 0.8.5

[fontadoni]

Oh man, I wish everything in life was this simple. It worked perfectly. I was able to change the value back down to what it should be, no problems whatsoever. I did some testing too and everything seems to be working ok.

Thanks john!

[kevinjohngallagher]

I’m not sure who has access to edit the information on this website (outwith the forums) but any change we could have :

<b>”Do NOT try to integrate WordPress 2.6 with bbPress 0.9 – only use WP 2.5.x – the reason for this is simple – WordPress has radically changed the way cookies are used. “</b>

oooh i dont know, maybe on the INTEGRATION TO WORDPRESS page?!?! or even on the download section.

How daft is it to hide it away in a forum when it’s quite essential information? If you download the latest stable wordpress and the latest stable BBpress – they’re uncompatable. that to me seems kind of important to new people who download stable releases of both to get started!

[saberj]

I’m working a new version of my site, and I’m working in BBpress. I tried the latest stable version, but since I was already using WordPress 2.6.3, things didn’t quite work right. So I switched up to BBpress 1.0 Alpha 2, and things mostly work right.

However, I’m still facing a couple problems. Most importantly, the User Roles map doesn’t actually map users to the appropriate setting. It doesn’t map them at all, in fact. My admin blog users are still listed as just regular members on the boards. Does anyone know why that may be? I also can’t appear to edit the users to add the settings manually. The Software points me to “/profile/user/edit”, which doesn’t actually exist, apparently.

I realize that this is an Alpha version, which is fine, since the site isn’t live yet anyway. But I’d really like to figure out why users aren’t being correctly mapped. I entered all the settings correctly to my knowledge. Except the “WordPress “secure auth” cookie salt ” setting, which I didn’t appear to have. So I left that blank.

Any help would be appreciated, so I can start working on theme work for my site. Thanks!

[pertinax786]

Another WP integration/bbSync question: I’ve read everything written here and now have a working test blog/forum setup (2.5.1 & .902) waiting to be ported to the main site.

Bar one issue: using bbSync, I can get WP comments showing in the forum without difficulty, but replies in the forum are not porting back into the WP comments.

Am I overlooking a way of getting the forum posts to port back to the WP pages?

If this is not easily possible, might there be an alternative, like for example using Simplepie to parse the feed from the thread and re-include it back into the WP page, or even an include or Ajax load; perhaps not perfect…

I don’t need user sharing as there are no WP users; trying for an anonymous friendly integrated forum/comments system. It’s just getting those replies back onto the WP side…

[kevinjohngallagher]

Hi Ipstenu,

thanks very much for taking the time to write back. I’m glad you saw this as a discussion and not something negative towards BBpress.

Maybe i wrote it wrong, but my point is not what “we” the internet community intend BBpress to be, but more what “they” the community of end users want it to be.

BBpress in it’s current form is just a blog. users log on, post a blog, people leave comments. There’s a list of tags, blog posts (sorry “topics”), and um… thats it.

I know, and you know, and i’m sure the intelligent people that have written this lovely bit of code know, that a forum and a blog are very very similar.

When I got into the simplicity of BBpress before the summer, I tried to convince a number of my fellow web enthusiasts to take up the cause. But the more they looked at it, the more disdain they had. I’ve stuck with it, and continue to do so of course, as i thought with each release getting closer to 1.0RC we’d get there.

But we’ve not created a forum.

Forums have a different mindset to Blogs, and don’t get me wrong i’m ok with using plug-ins, it’s just that we’re fixing bugs/issues with a Blog mindset. That is, blogs list things in a singular direction. Forums, by the nature in terms of what the END USER expects, work in a cross polination way.

Yes tags are a good idea, but tags are reliant on the end user.

To give an example:

I recently had to take down BBpress from a backpacker website because the users weren’t putting in tags. The plan being that instead of UK > Scotland > Edinburgh > Travel > Topic that users could just use the UK Travel forum and tag “edinburgh” or “london” etc. Instead, we had 100s of “how do i buy cheap bus tickets” or “cheapest way to travel” or “1 ticket spare” etc with NO tags.

The site lastest 6 weeks before the owner demanded I take it down and replace it with “actual forum software” – that’s a quote from their IT department btw.

But lets give a counter example:

Wordpress.org uses BBpress and it’s working great. Loads of Topics, tags, and few forums. No real need for categories. Same with the technorati one. It’s a credit to BBPress – and nothing can take away from that and the amazing work done by the BBpress team and community… BUT… there’s always a but isn’t there… the people that use WordPress/Technorati are people like us, they are technical, they are used to tags and searching for exactly what they want. They are *not* the typical end user on the internet.

I’m all for free form Ipstenu, i totally get what you mean, and if that suits the needs of your community then great. For me, its suits the needs of some of mine, the problem is as soon as we get into the territory of what people think “all forums” should do, BBpress really starts to look… well, not like a forum.

The more we code, the more we’re coding a wordpress clone, yet not cloning their proven and successful techniques. Our website should match their website (heck, screw the colours, just in terms of layout and user flow), our methods should match their methods. I, no WE, want to help, we want BBpress to be better, but more importantly we want it to fulfil it’s mission statement; and right now that’s not quite happening.

[zappoman]

I’ve done some searching and not found anything related to this, so I appologize if someone elses google-fu is stronger than me.

I could use some help on this problem.

I have installed “complex” integration between bbPress (0.9) and WPMU (2.6) — yes, I have authentication working because I have custom auth plugins… that’s not my issue.

The problem I am running into is that IF I include wordpress then I’m getting extra attribute escapes on new posts and edit posts in bbPress.

So if I post a topic with a title of “test” it will end up posting as “test” if I’m just running bbPress (that’s good), but if I have wordpress loaded at the same time, I get \”test\”. And the resulting post displays in the forums.

Has anyone else ever seen this before?

[kevinjohngallagher]

So, the issue with the method implemented in : https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/hiding-subforums-subforums-from-subforum-pages

is that it only checks for the lineage of the forum before it.

This causes problems when you have multiple children to multiple children, as thus:

category

– Forum1

– – Child 1

– – – Child1’s child

– – Child 2

That method will make BBpress think that Child 2 is actually under Child1’s Child, because when testing if their parents are the same they clearly are not.

Instead, we have to create a nesting code that counts the depth to which we go as we trawl through each parent/child relationship – which is daft as there is a walker->depth function that we just don’t have access to via $GLOBALS.

EDIT:

Update – not knowing if it’s the last forum in a category is starting to kill me a little.

[kevinjohngallagher]

At the risk of looking like a double whammy in regards to the non nesting iterations of our outputted code, just using TRs with different classes, i’ve hit across another wee issue – but this time i’m sure there’s a simple solution I just can’t see the relavent code.

I want to be able to know if a forum has children or not, or more specifically when we move up or down a level in the “xPath” iteration.

I’m using a method of using $GLOBALS->forum_parent but what this currently requires me doing is testing to see if the forum has a parent that is not a category, then checking to see if the parent is the same as the previous forums parent, and then output relavent code to nest the forum in an actual parent child format:

Category

– Forum

– Forum

– – Forum

– – Forum

– Forum

This obviously creates havok and rather messy code for the closing of the nestings.

I realise that for small websites this will look like a formatting issue, but once you reach more than 2 levels in a parent child relationship, the ability to control nested relationships makes a huge difference.

Thanks for the help folks

EDIT:

Ok, i think i’ve found half the solution to the issue, and maybe i can phrase the question better now in BBterms…

I want to know, via PHP, before any code has been sent to the browser for the forum, if it is a FIRST CHILD or a LAST CHILD.

Now obviously, BBpress knows this because it’s outputting bb-last-child bb-first-child css, but how can I access these settings on the front-page.php ?

Thanks alot for all the help

[mithrandir321]

Hello, I have this code (which comes from another support thread here) on my front-page.php:

<table id=”highest”>

<?php $top_topics = bb_top_topics(); ?>

<?php foreach ( $top_topics as $topic ) : ?> // line 70

<tr<?php topic_class(); ?>>

<td>“><?php topic_title(); ?>

</td>

<td class=”num”><div class=”rating-holder”><?php bb_rating();?>

<span class=”count”><?php bb_rating_count(); ?>

</span>

</div>

</td></tr>

<?php endforeach; ?>

</table>

And under it the code for latest topics.

It gives me this error:

Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /home/home1/novapojistovna_cz/public_html/www/bbpress/bb-templates/kakumei/front-page.php on line 70

Can anybody help, please. Don’t quite understand what is wrong

Thanks

[_ck_]

Just out of curiosity, what happens if recaptcha.net is down or gets hit by a ddos attack? Do thousands of sites that rely on them suddenly stop being able to register people?

I need to upgrade my Human Test so it doesn’t rely on sessions and then it should be even more useful for a completely local solution.

[Meraj Chhaya]

Hi all!

I run wordpress 2.6 at phonereport.info. I tried installing bbPress 1.0 Alpha so that it could integrate with WordPress, but just as I concluded the installation successfully, I get the following error:

‘Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_STRING in /home/nokisat7/public_html/phonereport.info/test/bbpress/bb-config.php on line 20’

Line 20 is the following:

‘// the value of their equivalent keys in the WordPress file wp-config.php’

Here is the installation log, I changed the password:

‘Referrer is OK, beginning installation…

>>> Setting up custom user table constants

Step 1 – Creating database tables

>>> Modifying database: nokisat7_bbpress (localhost)

>>>>>> Table: bb_forums

>>>>>>>>> Creating table

>>>>>>>>>>>> Done

>>>>>> Table: bb_meta

>>>>>>>>> Creating table

>>>>>>>>>>>> Done

>>>>>> Table: bb_posts

>>>>>>>>> Creating table

>>>>>>>>>>>> Done

>>>>>> Table: bb_terms

>>>>>>>>> Creating table

>>>>>>>>>>>> Done

>>>>>> Table: bb_term_relationships

>>>>>>>>> Creating table

>>>>>>>>>>>> Done

>>>>>> Table: bb_term_taxonomy

>>>>>>>>> Creating table

>>>>>>>>>>>> Done

>>>>>> Table: bb_topics

>>>>>>>>> Creating table

>>>>>>>>>>>> Done

Step 2 – WordPress integration (optional)

>>> WordPress address (URL): http://phonereport.info/

>>> Blog address (URL): http://phonereport.info/

>>> WordPress cookie keys set.

>>> WordPress “auth” cookie salt set from input.

>>> WordPress “logged in” cookie salt set from input.

>>> Fetching missing WordPress cookie salts.

>>>>>> WordPress “secure auth” cookie salt not set.

>>> User database table prefix: wp_

>>> User database name: nokisat7_wrdp9

>>> User database user: nokisat7_forum

>>> User database password: something

>>> User database host: localhost

>>> User database character set: utf8

Step 3 – Site settings

>>> Site name: PhoneReport test forum

>>> Site address (URL): http://phonereport.info/test/bbpress/

>>> From email address: only.meraj@merajnet.com

>>> Key master role assigned to existing user

>>>>>> Username: admin

>>>>>> Email address: only.meraj@merajnet.com

>>>>>> Password: Your existing password

>>> Description: Just another bbPress community

>>> Forum name: PhoneReport test forum

>>>>>> Topic: Your first topic

>>>>>>>>> Post: First Post! w00t.

>>> Key master email sent

Installation complete!’

Please let me know what else you wish to have.

There are two different databases: one for the wordpress installation, the other for bbpress.

Thank you in advance, and keep up the good work!

[Klark0]

I count the number of blogs and the number of the posts using two queries. All posts from all the other blogs are copied to blog_id 1. So i do like so

$count_posts = wp_count_posts();

echo $count_posts->publish;

and

$stats = get_sitestats();

$tmp_blog_count = number_format ($stats[ 'blogs' ] );

print "".$tmp_blog_count." blogs";

Can bbpress grab those ?

[jonkristian]

Hm, turns out I still have trouble accessing admin panel in bbpress. Straange, I tested it with login via both bbpress and wp the last time, however now, it doesn’t seem to work.

Regarding the setup, i followed Deadpan’s setup down to the very last line, except that i kept the hash in

$bb->logged_in_cookie = ‘wordpress_logged_in_ikeptthishashin’;

[dchest]

I wrote a plugin to add reCAPTCHA to user registration page. (It’s inspired by _ck_’s Human Test.)

I’ve submitted request to add it to the plugin repository, however 1) the submission form didn’t have any feedback, so I ended up with two identical requests, 2) I didn’t realize you have to put the whole readme.txt to description field of this form. Could someone fix this, and write at least a few sentences describing the submission process?

Anyway, you can download it from http://www.codingrobots.com/files/bb-recaptcha.zip

IMPORTANT: You must get an API key from the reCAPTCHA project to use it. See readme.txt.

Tested under 1.0-alpha1, may not work with previous versions on some PHP deployments.

See how it works here: http://forum.codingrobots.com/register.php

Comments and code review are welcome!

[Vietson]

This theme is still under development. I have yet to test the theme out in 1.0. alpha.2. But I will once WP2.7 has a stable release…

A WP Theme (2.6.3) can be seen at http://idolsavenue.com