[honestscott]

Hi,

My bbpress 1.0.2 forum is causing a lot of slow queries, and I had to shut it down because my host Monster Host was Throttling my account big time.

Is there a fix for this, I am not running many plug-ins that would use the database except for bbpm, but I tried disabling this plug-in, and I still get clobbered with slow queries and CPU throttling.

I hate to have to shut the forum down, but I am not a php coder or a database administrator.

I tried moving my sites to a semi-dedicated server (to get more server resources) but their Myphp interface clashed somehow with all my WP databases.

I was on NTC hosting and their support team told me it was a problem with my WP sites, although I did get one blog to work half way decent, but my bbpress forum would not.

I was using Blue Host when I created my sites, so I went to Monster Host (their sister company) and loaded my files and DB’s and they came up just fine, but I am back to the DB strangulation with slow queries.

I check the slow queries log on my server and I see a lot of forum queries in there, but the logs don’t really pin-point a cause (plug-in or script).

Here’s a list of the plugins I have on my forum:

ajaxed quote

adsense for bbpress

bbcode buttons

bbcumulus

bbpm

bbpress signatures

bb-smiles

check for updates (not activated)

delete all bozos

mass delete users

members online

php4bb

super search

approve registration

bb-avatars

bbcode lite

bb twitter (not active)

google analytics

human test

moderator notification

new user notification

restrict registration

I would appreciate any, and all ideas so I could save my forum from the trash bin.

Thanks for your time,

Scott

[kevinjohngallagher]

If you’re running bbPress1.0.1, bbPress1.0.2 is a very minor upgrade (less than 100 lines of code) and include some bug fixes.

bbPress1.0.3 / bbPress1.1 shouldn’t break that many plugins. My last trunk download caused some theme issues (minor), but up until the end of April there it was stable and looking might fine.

I strongly suggest you make a local copy of your current forum, and install the latest version from the trunk; and test against your plugins. Given the list that you have, there’s a good chance some may fail; and others like “Subscribe to Topic” won’t really be needed.

When/if this new bbpress plugin comes out, will there be a way to convert my bbpress installation into teh plugin or otherwise make it compatable?

None of us have any idea. Matt announced that the bbPress plugin was going to happen in January, then left the project. Any other information you can garnish from the WordPress blogs updates will give you more information than people involved with this project have been given.

Either way, i’m not panicing. Just irked by the lack of communication, as you’re not alone in asking, and i feel for the bbPress users who are in a form of limbo.

[chrishajer]

Friday 9th July:

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matt states that bbPress has been upgraded to latest trunk version

Where did that come from? I didn’t see that posted online.

The code running here is certainly not updated to the latest trunk. From the source of the page:

[meta name="generator" content="bbPress 1.1-alpha-2453" /]

When it’s updated, the BackPress fix will be in.

[kevinjohngallagher]

Sorry, posting quickly on phone.

Thursday 1st July:

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Westi states that the 3 months old bug has been fixed. And will be applied to bbPress at the next patch.

Wednesday 7th July:

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Matt states bbPress powered forums at WordPress.org has been upgraded to the latest version of bbPress and BackPress.

$this->shitty->bug() is not present. yay.

https://wordpress.org/support/topic/422478

Friday 9th July:

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matt states that bbPress has been upgraded to latest trunk version

$this->shitty->bug() is still present and in it’s 3rd month. booo.

Might it just be miscommunication? Yes, I agree it is.

Is this bug fixed somewhere out there? Yes, I agree it is.

Is it close to commical that it’s been where for 3 months? Yes, it is.

Is something wrong with at least one of the statemetns from Matt? Given that one contradicts the other? Yes, it is.

Honestly, is it so damn hard for an Automattic employee to also update our BackPress version as well as the bbPress version? I mean, do they not know that bbPress is dependant on BackPress (definately possible)? Is it an issue of shame or embaressment at a bad decision thats coming back to haunt them, or just a mistake that gets made constantly over the last 6 months?

[chrishajer]

Sorry, very latest trunk is r2461. mdawaffe checked in a few revisions, probably after updating the wordpress.org support forums.

The last svn log is for r2460, but when I checked out the latest, it says revision r2461. But there is no log entry for r2461.

I’m glad they’re using it at the wordpress.org forums. With many users the problems will become apparent and will have resources devoted to fixing them.

[chrishajer]

Where did Matt say he fixed the code/encoding issue?

We are still running r2453 here, not the latest version r2458. The BackPress fix didn’t happen until BackPress r312 on Jul 1 2010 by Westi. When the code is updated here the problem will be fixed. If you check out a new revision, the problem will be fixed in your installation.

Here is an example forum using r2458 with the BackPress fix and you can see that the code is formatted properly.

http://bbpress.chrishajer.com/trunk/topic.php?id=3#post-7

[kevinjohngallagher]

It’s part of the core.

Have you tested it?

[kevinjohngallagher]

http://wpdevel.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/last-night-two-big-changes-happened-on-w/

I love, truly love, that it was tested.

Otherwise, people might just think he’s making this shit up as he goes along…

[chrishajer]

To check out via subversion:

svn co http://svn.automattic.com/bbpress/trunk/ ./testdirectory

[chrishajer]

I think the best thing to do in your case would be a test installation of the latest trunk release of bbPress (not the packaged 1.0.2 release.) There’s no way to know if all that is going to work on the latest version of bbPress, but I suspect most of it will.

I would copy over your database, then install bbPress with subversion. Then copy over your template and plugins. Then test. If it all works, then go ahead and upgrade your 1.0.1 installation.

Regarding when bbPress becomes a WordPress plugin, it doesn’t really matter. Use what works for you (right now, that’s a standalone installation, as you have here.) That code you have installed is never going away. If a time comes in the future where you can move to bbPress as a WordPress plugin, then go ahead and do it. But use what works for now and don’t wait for any version coming in the future.

[Marius-]

So does the bb-nospamuser have any advantages compared to human test ?

[sureshdrim]

Hello all..

In my case I am testing this plugin on localhost.Server software Value & PHP version are as expected.I followed the installation steps correctly,but still couldn’t get this plugin working from a longtime.

I get following error:

Oops! This link appears to be broken.

Please help !

[chrishajer]

I think the toolbar button is designed to let you insert a link to an image in your post, but the image already has to be online somewhere. The BB WYSIWYG plugin doesn’t handle uploading or storing images. It just modifies your post.

So, they work in different ways. If you used the BB WYSIWYG editor and the Allow Images plugin together, AND the image was online somewhere already ( like this http://www.google.com/images/nav_logo8.png )then you would be able to use the toolbar button. But if the image is not online yet and you want to store images for your users, then I think bbPress Attachments is the way to go.

bbpress (testing for the filter)

[sureshdrim]

Hello Zaerl..

I think there’s still something missing in ur code.I came out with more simple code which is tested and working good. (not sure if its 100 % reliable)

function reply_link() {

global $topic;

$add = topic_pages_add();

$last_page = bb_get_page_number( ( isset( $topic->topic_posts ) ? $topic->topic_posts : 0 ) + $add );

$h2 = esc_attr( get_topic_link( 0, $last_page ) . ‘#postform’ );

echo $h2;

}

Hello kevinjohngallagher..

Actually I was looking for href value of an anchor tag which I want to add below each post.

[hpguru]

Akismet catch in my blog 99 % of spam. In bbPress ck’s plugin Human Test works 100 %.

[zaerl]

Not tested.

#post_content is #postform.

[Marius-]

Human Test have prevented absolutely all spambots from registering since I installed it. For almost a year, untill yesterday.

[Marius-]

But its common for all of these spambot registrations, that they have the exact same interests.

I would prefer that no spambots register at all, but when they appear so sophisticated, I hesitate with deleting them right away.

Human Test is kind of old now, and there are new programs out there like this: https://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/nospamuser/

That any good? Or better? Can you run both?

[kevinjohngallagher]

There is no automated program that will catch 100% of spam.

Or even close to it. Your best bet is to attempt to find a solution that works for you.

Human Test plugin doesn’t actually test if someone is Human, it just checks if the answer in the input box is right. The bots usually have a good guess at these, and over time get them right once in a while. Its hardly fool proof (but then, doesn’t claim to be).

Ofcourse, thats not really spam either, thats just spammer registrations.

You could make sure that only people you approve can post. And you should be running something like Akismet also.

The best spambot plugin? You. The moderator.

Also, on your website Interests and Location are not required to be a correct answer, so that plays no part in the passing or failing of the Human Test plugin.

[zaerl]

Curtesy of the ajaxed-quote plugin:

function replay_link() {

if ( !bb_is_topic() ) return false;



global $page, $topic, $bb_post;



if ( !$topic || !topic_is_open( $bb_post->topic_id ) || !bb_is_user_logged_in() || !bb_current_user_can('write_posts') )

return false;



$post_id = get_post_id();



$add = topic_pages_add();

$last_page = get_page_number( $topic->topic_posts + $add );



if ( $page == $last_page ) return '#post_content';

} else return get_topic_link( 0, $last_page ) ) . '#postform";

}

Not tested.

[Marius-]

I have been running Human Test for a while. But now it seems to be failing.

Lately, several accounts have been created with similiar email adresses and interests.

Usually the interests are: Interests: Music, Location: Oslo, Occupation: Student.

It seems they all might be picking Oslo in Norway, because that is where the IP of my website is located.

How are they bypassing Human Test. And is there a new plugin I should be using instead?

[mr_pelle]

I’ve been using Support Forum plugin (by so1o, mdawaffe and SamBauers) since a couple of months now, but it was just today that I noticed its latest update is on November ’08…

Is there any chance it will get updates in the future? It currently has some minor bugs, configuration page display issues and it features A LOT of unnecessary queries to the database!

Recently I’ve begin wondering to heavily modify this great plugin on my own, but before actually start working I’d like to know from the authors if there is any updated unreleased version out there.

Thank you in advance!

[kevinjohngallagher]

Can i just add that i LOVE that linking to WordPress.org makes me a spammer.

I’ll go read this again while I wait: http://ma.tt/2009/08/kill-your-community/

Treat Everyone the Same.

If I’ve left hundreds of great comments over many years on your site, please make me wait in the moderation queue like some random stranger off Digg. Don’t let anyone know I’m a regular, or talk to me, or invite me to test out beta stuff, or pretty much anything that acknowledges my existence or shows any degree of trust.

[gerikg]

The alternative is pixepoint, i don’t know if you want to test that.

[Greg]

Ok, now I’m just confused. With our custom theme I am seeing 50+ queries. I was previously ignorant of this because “get_num_queries()” apparently isn’t returning a result for the site overall.

But on Kakumei, I still only see 19 queries overall.

I can see what optimization needs to be done on the custom theme thanks to the “SAVEQUERIES” magic incantation, but I’d still love to know why you’re getting 56.

Did you do the deep integration test on the standard themes?