[Abdessamad Idrissi]

Hello there,

It would be really a nice thing to have a wysiwyg editor in bbpress, just like the one that wordpress have: TinyMCE, since it is open source.

the current editor is too much simple and complex at the same time especially when:

* you converted your forum from a wysiwyg based forum; vbulletin (native), phpbb (as plugin).. to bbpress, you loose lot of formatting.

* most of the users don’t know how to deal with bbcode.

* you need a fast way to copy-past formated text and images.

* currently no efficient wysiwyg plugin available in the bbpress plugins.

* it is not an option, it is a must-have feature in every successful board.

most phpbb forum owners criticized harshly the lack of wysiwyg in phpbb; people keeps asking for it and phpbb developers keep ignoring them and saying that they want to keep phpbb simple!!! so users leave to other forums!

for the people who like the current bbpress simple editor, bbpress can offer a switch in the dashboard to toggle wysiwyg editor on and off.

what do you think?

[work]

Hi Frank. Only should have installed bbpress in the same dbase which contain phpbb content. Place for files is not matter.

Remember! Make backup!

[frankpereiro]

I think this is great. I mean, I installed phpbb3 in my site and have been regreting it since users became more and more active.

I have a question, though. I’ve spent three days looking for some info (at google, wordpress, etc) and I think this is the right place.

Do I have to upload the bbpress files into the same directory where the phpbb files are right now or the new bbpress files can be anywhere? I’ve read that the database must be the same. My guess is that the files can be anywhere but I just want to make sure.

[copperblade]

How do I upload a theme? I just made a “child” theme (similar to phpBB’s old subBlack) for kakumei. I made a “plugin request” about it, but I’m not sure that’s what I’m supposed to do. Are themes supported on this site at all?

[hpguru]

I use on my WordPress function ´<?php if (is_home()) { echo ” – My blog slogan”;} ?>´ on index.php.

But now i’m back to bbPress. Nothing in SMF or phpBB to me, try it and forget it… Install 1.0.2 and now i need slogan to just index.php.

Thank you.

[kevinjohngallagher]

Wow man, a 2 year old post…

I’d try here: https://bbpress.org/forums/tags/smf

3rd one down looks like a winner:

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/successfully-convert-smf-20-rc1-to-bbpress-10

99/100 the best way is to convert from any forum to phpBB3 and from there to bbPress.

Good Luck

[Mildura Web Design]

Hey, I’m new too, and i’m about to give it a crack. I’ve used phpBB before, but this looks nice and simple. Wish me luck!

[kevinjohngallagher]

I’m clueless about attatchements from anything to bbPress sadly; but that bbCode plugin works a treat

[Andrea.Dintino]

Kevin: like this one -> https://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/bbcode-lite/faq/

are you aware of a way to handle the attachments?

Numediaweb: thanks a lot for your effort, much appreciated!

I’ve been fighting with phpbb for a few days now, it’s leaking everywhere now and I can’t wait to get rid of it

Thanks everybody!

A.

[psycheangels]

look at page source of this (your forum)

http://forumcine.ma/topic.php?id=126

and search position-

all the post have position-0 that is the problem i got when using the old bbpress converter. ( check post_position table in bb_posts, all 0 or not )

and for forum_slug, active name based permalink in bbpress admin then check your forum thread, error or not. (if your post_slug is empty then all your post will 404 not found if you active name based permalink. not forum_slug)

[kevinjohngallagher]

it doesn’t parse the bbcode inside posts (meaning that all the links inside the posts are gone)

Is the bbcode still present in the bbPress database?

if so, then there are a few bbCode parsers for bbPress availible. I know Matt doesn’t like it, and therefore we are the only forum that won’t support it, but i think it only slows adoption

[Abdessamad Idrissi]

that’s true: this converter doesn’t deal with attachements, for my forum, i didn’t need attachements that’s why I did’nt try to fix this probeleme, anyway, if I have time, i’ll check this.. another think is the way phpbb3 stores attachements; it crypts file names so instead of “myimage.gif” it stores the file encrypted like “55_5230d911b6e6212b7a55075668053db2” but there will be a way just needs time!

[Abdessamad Idrissi]

thank you guys,

@psycheangels

I checked the database and my forum as well and can’t find any problem either with forum_slug or post_position, if you have this problems, maybe, you are using an old bbpress or phpbb3 installation, it is recommended that you update both your phpbb3 and bbpress installation to the latest versions (as stated in this page title) before proceeding with the convertion.

[Andrea.Dintino]

Hi numediaweb,

first of all thank you for the script: it does everything it promises and it’s easy to use

Non surprisingly it still seems to lack a few feature which are probably very hard to develop: it doesn’t parse the bbcode inside posts (meaning that all the links inside the posts are gone) and it doesn’t convert the attachments…

I hope someone will find the time to implement those, as I believe they’re necessary to properly move a forum from one software to another.

Our forum is here

But thanks again anyway

[psycheangels]

post position still error check it with firefox, all post have position-0.

and can you check the post slug table in your db, empty or not ?

(need that for change permalink to apply nicer permalink)

check my little hack for that in

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/phpbb3-gt-bbpress-converter-beta-release/page/4

thx btw for your fix

[kevinjohngallagher]

Very nice indeed numediaweb, and appreciated

[Abdessamad Idrissi]

ABOUT

A script to help you convert you phpbb3 (version 3.0.7) forum to bbpress (version:1.0.2) forum. This code is an update to the code made by wmnasef (http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/phpbb3-gt-bbpress-converter-beta-release).

GET IT @

http://code.google.com/p/phpbb3-to-bbpress1-converter/

BUGS CORRECTED

* works with bbpress 1.0.2

* corrects the single quote problem

* corrects the login problem

HOW TO INSTALL

1. make a backup from your online forum (if possible make an exact copy of your forum in your localhost server, this prevents any damage to the online forum).

2. install bbpress anywhere, just use the same database of phpbb3. this is important because the script assumes that all tables are in the same database.

3. download the script from here. extract it, and you’ll get 2 files.

4. copy the file phpbb3tobbpress.php to “phpbb3/” directory.

5. copy the file _phpbb3_pass.php to bbpress/my-plugins/ directory (if it doesn’t exist, create it!).

6. go to http://path-to-phpbb3/phpbb3tobbpress.php and start converting your board.

7. voila .. all your data is converted to bbpress tables, go to your bbpress installation and login. don’t forget to visit admin->manage->recount to make sure your converted board is updated.

As said before, it is advised to copy your phpbb3 forum to a localhost installation and make the conversion as stated in the steps above, this way if you have big forum with thousands of posts, it is easier and safer to run the conversion on localhost.

Hope this helps and thanx to the original poster.

Tested by http://numediastudio.com for http://forumcine.ma

[Abdessamad Idrissi]

I updated the current code and hosted it under google code at http://code.google.com/p/phpbb3-to-bbpress1-converter/

now it works with bbpress 1.0.2 and phpbb 3.0.7

have fun! and thanx original poster: wmnasef

[WimTibackx]

I might not have been very clear on that. Foremost I want to fork WordPress and turn it into a fast, modern and elegant cms. At the same time I want to fork WordPress and bbPress to run as plugins on that cms. I just used the backpress name in my post to avoid using WordPress two times.

I’m personally not that interested in a standalone forum, but in a forum that integrates on my normal website easily and a normal website that is modern, fast and easily extendible. The current WP codebase might have the fast-part but it isn’t modern and it isn’t easily extendible (ok, it’s better then phpBB for example but more object oriented code wouldn’t do bad at all).

[kevinjohngallagher]

Rootside ::

Has anyone considered the possiblity that Matt is keeping his eyes peeled on the current efforts of some people trying to use nothing but WordPress’ core functions to build a simple forum?

He might be mate, but probably not, as doing so isn’t that difficult at all. I creted a “theme” for WordPress that made it look/work like a forum in essence back in 2008. The same time I made and released the phpBB theme for bbPress. Both were availible on the bbProgress website (which closed last year but there should still be some links on t’internet).

And Justin’s coding one based on the new Custom Post features, which will work alot better than mine did (he actually build one last year too, but had a hard drive crash and lost it).

Basically though, a blog and a forum are different in their “n to n” nature. WordPress relies on a huge amount of caching to try and keep it’s memory intake down, and a customised caching mechanism is essential once you hit any form of modernday traffic. That sort of feature works well on “1 to many” software, but a forum is different. It has to call data differently, and handle multiple parent/child relationships.

Rootside ::

I’m guessing that any WP plugin which makes that kind of thing easy to set up and enhances its functionality would be really lightweight.

No, no way mate The opposite.

I understand the desire to make a WP plugin that is a forum, I can see Matt’s viewpoint on that, but in comparison to bbPress as it stands, it’ll be far from lightweight.

Not only will it struggle with the caching that WP relies on, but you’ll have all the overhead of loading everything in WordPress before hitting any actual forum content (including the WordPress admin sections and plugins).

It’s basically going to be very similar to the BuddyPress “bbPress” plugin, as thats a hacked/stripped version of bbpress1.0 (in general terms it removed BackPress and rewrote the function calls to call WP/buddyPress functions directly). But in order to get it to work, every page has to load WordPress then BuddyPress then bbPress forum module.

Lightweight it ain’t!

Even if the very clever people that work at Automattic and contribute to the community manage to pull a great number of rabits out of hats, there is no way that it will be anything but bloated.

But you know, 90% of folks won’t care. Take Marius (poster above me), he runs a forum about Michael Jackson with aboot 100+ users and maybe 50 topics started a week. He’s not that uncommon to alot of the folks that pass through here (other than that he is allergic to manners). They won’t care in the slightest about the small hit as the chances of them noticing it are going to be slim, and they get access to all the good stuff that comes with WordPress, heck for the most part they’ll get the stuff they think they should from bbPress/Wordpress integration now. For a percentage of people, there will be no downside, even if it’s far from lightweight.

I realise that software moves on, and I realise that as it grows there will be some bloat. Thats the reality of where we are, and WordPress does a really great job of being quick despire it’s bloat. But the sheer difference between a bbP0.9/WP2.5 deeply integrated forum (which has MORE features than we have now) and a bbP1/WP3 deeply integrated forum is unbelievable. Bloated, slower, more prone to errors and less features.

I see why Matt thinks things have to change, i don’t agree with the direction and thats cool, i don’t have to agree, nor does anyone

But really the history of this project has taught us one thing repeatedly: Heading in a direction without planning or a roadmap will definately lead us somewhere else, but we’ll be just as lost. Who knows though, 40 years later he may just lead us out of the desert

Hopefully on Matt’s way up to Montreal he’ll see a burning bush

[Rootside]

He even admitted that right now, it would be better off to use another plugin rather than bbPress.

Nevermind if it’s insulting, it’s just wrong. I’ve looked closely at a few WP forum plugins, and they’re all spectacularly ugly, near-impossible to customise, or criminally bloated. Or all of these things.

That said, he does have a point when it comes to installation. I’ll happily jump through a few hoops to get something working, but I’m not sure I’d recommend bbPress unless I was sure the person knows what they’re doing.

All in all though, I went for bbPress precisely because it’s still better than all the other solutions. I realise I’m only speaking for myself and other people might miss functions they consider to be essential; and I wish them good luck trying to tame Simple:Press or wrestle phpBB into their site, but I consider bbPress to be a niche product because it provides a simple, basic, themable forum, and I just assume that that’s what people who use it were looking for.

I’m further assuming that the majority use bbPress in conjunction with a WordPress site, and in that context, I don’t understand why it shouldn’t be a plugin. I personally can’t wait for that to happen, because as bloated as WordPress might be, most people are using it anyway, so the question whether it’s good or bad to load WordPress in order to use bbPress doesn’t even arise for most people.

(edit) If we’re talking loading WP core stuff on every forum page, fine, I get that argument, but again, I doubt that bbPress is the right solution for a big, high traffic forum anyway.(/edit)

And the way I understand it, if someone wants to run just a forum, wouldn’t they probably be looking for something more powerful and feature-rich than bbPress in the first place?

A bbPress plugin would surely be a lot lighter than the current bbPress, no? How is that not a good thing? Am I totally off with my guess that most bbPress users are also running WordPress anyway?

Maybe it can go different ways indeed (renaming it would be a good idea in that case, obviously). That would preserve all the good work that has gone and is going into bbPress.

By the way:

Has anyone considered the possiblity that Matt is keeping his eyes peeled on the current efforts of some people trying to use nothing but WordPress’ core functions to build a simple forum? I’m guessing that any WP plugin which makes that kind of thing easy to set up and enhances its functionality would be really lightweight.

On a different note, I also don’t get how anyone could read a flame war into any of the discussions here. At all.

[ckeck]

I am setting up a new intranet site built on WP 3.0 and would really like to keep the forums to a very simple tool just like bbPress (phpbb, vbulletin, etc are all too bloated for our needs). Since the site is only accessible inside our company network I don’t want to have to worry about authentication, I would like the ability for users who visit the forum to simply post messages or responses.

Is this something that can be done out of the box or would a lot of custom work be involved? Thanks!

-Chad

[citizenkeith]

I’m using Tapatalk on my iPhone right now, accessing an SMF forum and I love the layout. It’s much easier to browse, reply and post with Tapatalk than using Safari on the iPhone.

According to Tapatalk’s website:

“Tapatalk is a forum app for iPhone, BlackBerry, Android and Nokia. The app provides super fast forum access to any vBulletin, IPBoard, phpBB and SMF forums that have activated Tapatalk. Forum owner can download the free plug-in to activate Tapatalk in your forum.”

I searched their site for mention of bbPress, and found this thread:

http://tapatalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=10919

The final post, from the moderator: “we can provide the API doucment if someone from the BBPress team want to take the bullet to implement it. I know that someone has ported it to MyBB so I don’t see why not?”

I would love to see a Tapatalk plugin for bbPress (especially one that supports v0.9).

Interested parties should check the “About Us” page on the Tapatalk website…

[btko]

Those Cube cars are cool, and I like your custom forums. Speaking of moving from PHPBB did you import your old database into the bbpress database?

[kieranyo]

Thanks for the constructive crit

Yeah it’s going really well.