[John James Jacoby]

My first guess is s2member hooks in too late, or some other plugin is loading the current user way too early in the stack. bbPress doesn’t perform any of those actions until it expects WordPress to make them happen naturally.

If the current_user is loaded before the ‘after_setup_theme’ action is called (because of an is_super_admin() check, a call to current_user_can(), etc…) bbPress fails gracefully, and waits until it’s time. If S2member waits until init to add its roles, or if the WP_Roles array doesn’t include the s2Member roles by the time ‘after_setup_theme’ has fired, $wp->init(); will get called, loading the current user, and bbPress will map the roles accordingly.

Another possible problem is bbp_get_user_role_map() not mapping custom roles; it only maps to WordPress core roles. A possible fix to bbp_set_current_user_default_role() would be to array_diff() editable_roles() vs bbp_get_dynamic_roles(), loop through them, use the map where it matters, and use the default role otherwise.

[John James Jacoby]

bbPress 2.2 implements a new way to think about user roles in both WordPress and bbPress. A few users have posted up having issues after upgrading, so I’m going to take some time to explain what changed and why.

The problem bbPress 2.2 addresses, is the situation where a users ability to take certain actions in the forums was dictated by their role on the entire site, or their “blog role” as I’ll refer to it in some places going forward.

This means that in the past, a user could not be both a blog Editor and a forum Moderator at the same time; you’d need to be one or the other, and it was clear this wasn’t what anybody wanted.

In bbPress 2.0 and 2.1, every time you activated bbPress on a site, it went in and added a bunch of capabilities to the database. You never knew this, but it needed these roles so that users could perform certain tasks. bbPress would go in and modify the core WordPress roles, to add these capabilities to them. This made multisite installations a challenge, and network activation was very difficult too, because these roles needed to be added to every single site.

For existing users of sites, bbPress performed a bunch of calculations and educated guesses to automatically grant users with certain roles and capabilities. To do this, it would eventually need to add capabilities to the user, or switch them to a role that had those capabilities already; Forum Participant.

Subsequent updates to bbPress required database migration scripts for every change to user roles and capabilities. This is a lot of work for very little gain, since we’re not solving any problems with users needing multiple roles, and at the same time we’re polluting the database with a bunch of data that doesn’t change 99% of the time.

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Under the hood, WordPress comes with support for users having multiple roles, and this is a perfect use-case for needing that functionality. Roles are just groups of capabilities. If a user has a role, it’s safe to assume they also have certain capabilities, right?

Wrong. Kind of. Sometimes.

Capabilities are saved in the database, per user, per site, and they bubble based on the role they are granted. If you use any plugin that modifies editable roles or capabilities in the database, what you’re doing is changing the individual capabilities for every user that gets that role going forward, but not necessarily every user that had that role in the past.

Remember, individual users have individual capabilities. When a user gets a new role that is modified in some way, they also get assigned the changed capabilities, either positive or negative. Negative capabilities are explicitly negative, and neither WordPress nor bbPress use these in core. They’re tricky, and make it easy to break things.

Once you’ve gone this far in, you’re playing with fire and will likely get burned. You now have altered core user roles, extra forum user roles, and a mish-mash of registered users with a random assortment of capabilities, based on when they signed up, what role they were granted, and what you happened to have changed that blog role’s capabilities to be at that moment.

To top this all off, there is no “repair” for your users, they’re basically stuck.

For bbPress users that never modified user roles or capabilities, their update process would be smooth sailing. It’s the modifications to database permissions that cause issues with bbPress 2.2. Why?

bbPress 2.2 introduces the concept of “dynamic roles” VS WordPress’s “editable roles.” What’s the difference? Editable roles are saved in the database, and allow you to completely shoot yourself in the foot (as above) once you start changing them around. Dynamic roles do not touch the database in any way, other than to assign the 1 role to the user, side-by-side with any other role they might have on your site.

bbPress comes with filters to allow you to modify the roles, and it’s still possible to add or subtract specific forum capabilities to a user if you needed to, and without all the fuss and danger of bbPress interfering with existing user roles and capabilities.

For users that are stuck with users that can’t access the forums, try using the forums role repair tool, located in: Admin > Tools > Forums

That tool loops through your users, and grants them a forum role based on their blog role based on the following map:

Admin = Keymaster
Editor = Participant
Author = Participant
Contributor = Participant
Subscriber = Participant

The map can be filtered, as can the default role of Participant. The problem will come in with existing users that have modified Participant roles that you may have tinkered with. They’ll end up with capabilities that are totally out of whack, no matter what you do. You’ll need to use an additional tool on top of this, if you want to clean up those old roles introduced by plugins like S2member.

Going forward, I’d like to get a better idea on what these plugins are doing, and make sure that bbPress plays as nicely as it can with them. Dynamic roles in WordPress core are probably a few releases away, but it’s important to bbPress’s future to have them in and working as soon as possible, to get everything dialed in for everyone.

[Stephen Edgar]

If I get a change today i’ll try to update https://codex.bbpress.org/bbpress-user-roles-and-capabilities/

That said though if anyone else wants to update it before I get a chance feel free to do so, if you have a bbpress.org username and pass you can edit the codex docs yourself. There are quite a few updates needed for 2.2 in the codex docs and any help would be greatly appreciated.

Just click ‘login’ at the top right of the page using the same bbPress username & password you use here at bbpress.org and edit away.

[caneblu]

Hi@all
dont know if is my installation or not.. After upgrading BBpress 2.2 editor users (role author) can’t use Editor because is not available and tabs Visual and HTML also not working .
As administrator works fine…
I have on my theme some shortcodes integrated into MCE. Just try to deactivate it but no success. If i shutdown BBPress all works back.
Any suggestions?

[kraigg]

Thanks so much @jmdodd!

I had some redirect code in /wp-content/plugins/bp-custom.php, which redirected user straight to the forum page when they clicked on a group, instead of the group’s homepage which a lot of our users found confusing.

I just had to change the last line from “forums” to “forum” and that seems to have done the trick.


function redirect_group_home() {
global $bp;
$path = clean_url( $_SERVER['REQUEST_URI'] );
$path = apply_filters( 'bp_uri', $path );
if (bp_is_group_home() && strpos( $path, $bp->bp_options_nav[$bp->groups->current_group->slug]['home']['slug'] ) === false ) {
$bp->groups->current_group->status == 'private' || $bp->groups->current_group->status == 'hidden') {
if ($bp->groups->current_group->status == 'public' || ($bp->groups->current_group->is_user_member && $bp->groups->current_group->status == 'private') || ($bp->groups->current_group->is_user_member && $bp->groups->current_group->status == 'hidden')) {
// bp_core_redirect( $path . 'forums/' );
bp_core_redirect( $path . 'forum/' );
}
}
}


@johnjamesjacoby feel free to toy around with website and test the installation. The link is in my previous post. I’m not using S2members though, but User Role Editor. I still need to do some more thorough testing before I move all this onto my production website.

[Anonymous User 7670885]

OK, thank JJJ (maybe is a good idea to put inside codex page) 🙂

[John James Jacoby]

1. Make a new WordPress page.
2. Use the bbp-topic-form shortcode.
3. Done.

[Mark Maunder]

Jennifer,

Yes we’re using S2Member but nothing changed with that. The upgrade seems to have triggered it so perhaps it’s an incompatibility between s2member and 2.2.

After I downgraded to 2.1.3 I’m getting “You do not have permission to create new topics.” for any user including admin when they try to create a new topic. Looks like the 2.2 upgrade changed the DB schema making downgrade impossible?

So we’re between a rock and a hard place. I’m going to dive into the bbPress code because this is a production website supporting our security plugin. If you have any additional pointers like the s2member suggestion which was very helpful I’d very much appreciate them.

Regards,

Mark.

[lucianoippolito]

*** UPDATE ***

I was able to fix it. My problem was I was pasting the URLs in visual mode and wordpress converted it in hyperlinks. Pasting the URL in HTML mode fixes the problem.

Thank you for your help,
Luciano

[lucianoippolito]

Thank you for your responses but I haven´t been able to fix the problem yet.

Unfortunatelly the embeeding is not working even using just the image or video url. It is only showing hyperlinks to the URLs.

As suggested by the codex embeds page I used the [embed]…[/embed] shortcodes with the same results.

By the way, I have wordpress “Auto-embeds” and bbpress “Auto-embed Links” checked

Any other idea on how to fix this problem?

if necesary you can use this test user:Username: ricardo2012
password: 123***

Thank you again,Luciano

[Anonymous User 7670885]

I can’t find here: http://codex.bbpress.org/bbpress-user-roles-and-capabilities/

Thank’s in advance,

DarkWolf 🙂

[Jennifer M. Dodd]

@kraigg: Check out the “View” link under one of your forums in WordPress Admin > Forums. Note that using the “View” link works; the difference between this URL and the one linked from /groups-shortcode/ is that the one that works ends in ‘forum’; the link from /groups-shortcode/ ends in ‘forums’.

In short: forums are there, but not where /groups-shortcode/ expects to find them. It looks like you have some sort of URL forwarding turned on so that when visiting a group, the first tab opened is the forum tab. However, it is should point to /forum/, not /forums/.

 

[Mark Maunder]

I’ve also had to downgrade to 2.1.3 after getting reports from some users that they were seeing the page not found page on all pages under our /forums/

I’ve filed a trac ticket here:

https://bbpress.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/2041

Copy and pasting the text:

After upgrading to 2.2 I got reports from certain users that they were seeing our page not found on all forum pages under the /forums/ URL including the base URL itself.

I logged in and tested it with my admin account and did not see it.

I created a normal user account and also could not repro.

I then signed in as that specific user and got a repro.

I then checked the network activity in Chrome and noticed that the site was sending a 200 HTTP code but serving up the standard 404 page. Which explains why I wasn’t seeing any 404’s in my web server error log.

Note that our forums are accessed via HTTPS so this may help you repro.

I downgraded to 2.1.3 and instantly the issue was fixed.

I haven’t noticed any heuristic with the user account that I managed to repro on. I even checked the cookie string to see if there was something odd about that users cookies, but didn’t notice anything.

[John James Jacoby]

As an admin on your site, you have the ability to post unfiltered HTML. There should be a warning above the post box that says this.

Regular user’s HTML is filtered to prevent malicious code from peeking through, and it’s possible images and/or specific attributes aren’t allowed on your installation, and they are getting filtered out.

[Stephen Edgar]

Add the [bbp-topic-index] shortcode to your page.

https://codex.bbpress.org/shortcodes/

[Jennifer M. Dodd]

bbPress 2.2 language files should go in /languages, not /bbp-languages, so: /wp-content/plugins/bbpress/languages/bbpress-ja.mo.

[Jennifer M. Dodd]

Embed Media means you don’t have to copy all of that HTML to post an image. It should be enough to just paste the link the the relevant image or video. See https://codex.wordpress.org/Embeds.

[Sir Tie]

My original setup was based on WordPress 3.4.2 and BuddyPress 1.6.1
I added a BP Group Forum which we realized will not be sufficient and if anything just confusing to members. So I completely deleted the Forums page and added a new page called Group Discussions. I then went to BP settings and pointed forums option to use this page. No problem there.

Next, I installed bbPress 2.2 / activated / added couple of test forums / check the slug making sure that it worked by going to: http://ch.lifewithababy.com/forums and it did.
Next step was to add a new Forums page which I did. Right after http://ch.lifewithababy.com/forums became blank??? Why???

I then deleted the Forums page and http://ch.lifewithababy.com/forums worked again… hmmm…
At this point I am confused…

So I ended up adding the page and then adding a shortcode to show the forum and it works, kind of.
It works for public but if I login as a member (one of my test buddypress members) the page no longer available??? As a logged in member I get “We’re sorry, but we can’t find the page that you’re looking for. Perhaps searching will help.” which makes no sense at all.

Could someone please help? I have no idea what is causing this mysterious behaviour and how to resolve it.

Thanks.

[lucianoippolito]

Hello,

My users are not able to publish photographs in the forum by embeeding their flickr html code into new threads ( it looks like bbpress deletes the html code ). Example of the code :

<a href=”http://www.flickr.com/photos/josue_arzate/7982828578/&#8221; title=”Milpa Alta por Josué Arzate Ontiveros, en Flickr”><img src=”http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8036/7982828578_9b9bd93c21.jpg&#8221; width=”500″ height=”332″ alt=”Milpa Alta”></a>

I have “Embed media (YouTube, Twitter, Flickr, etc…) directly into topics and replies.” checked.

The code embeeds perfectly when I do it (administrator) but is not working with my users.

Does anyone knows how can I fix this?

Thank you for your help,
Luciano

wp 3.4.2
bbpress 2.1.2
buddypress 1.6.1
my site: http://www.luchotv.com

[weeeq]

I’m trying to display the latest replies from the forum, but while the widget is perfectly running, each time i use i get “no topics”

[ochiba77]

I upgraded to Version 2.2 just now and when click submit to create topic or click edit for the existing topic, it shows the blank page and the page title says the fatal error: Call to undefined function bb_get_id_from_slug()…

<br />
<b>Fatal error</b>: Call to undefined function bb_get_id_from_slug() in <b>/home/omijin/public_html/wp-content/plugins/buddypress/bp-forums/bp-forums-functions.php</b> on line <b>178</b><br />

[Jackie Berry]

Hello, I am using the Tisa wp theme from Themify and although I had no trouble installing and adding forums, this theme seems to mandate that the individual forum widgets appear in the sidebar. As it is the sidebar is overloaded and I would much prefer to put it within a page on my website. Is there code I can embed on the page(s) somewhere? How can I do this?

Thanks,
Jackie

• This topic was modified 13 years, 2 months ago by Jackie Berry. Reason: forgot topic tags

[wpmhweb]

I am using WordPress 3.4.2 and I would like to display the latest questions (last 5 or 10 Qs) in my static homepage. There is a way to add some code to my template and display bbpress questions?

Thanks,

[ckone]

Hello bbpress,

I updated to version 2.2 and I am getting the error. The line is


948 endif; // class_exists check
949 exists check


Is it missing something…like the comment tag or semicolon?

Thanks for the good works you guys do

CK

[Stephen Edgar]

Sorry, my bad, try resetting your permalinks.

https://codex.bbpress.org/faq/#404