I also remember 0.7 fondly — along with Akismet it was the released product with the highest percentage of my code. Last year I shifted most of my code to internal tools, and this year that has waned even more due to the force of nature that is Mr Momrik my Technical Assistant.
That said, there is minimalist-beautiful, and minimalist-useless. Even Ferarris have stereo systems. I think we can find the balance between the two even though it might mean we misstep in one direction or the other along the way.
I agree with you more than you. In hindsight BackPress was a mistake. Its goal was to unify WP and bbP development, and it just ended up crippling bbPress with needless abstraction and didn’t actually generate any user-critical improvements, like being able to use WordPress themes.
I would like to have a sidebar on my forum that has several lists; categories, recent posts, most popular posts, but I am not sure how to pull that data over from wp to bbpress.
Are there any plugins that i can use to generate these lists? i already have the list set up in my wordpress theme sidebar where they use js to open and close the list. so i am really looking for something that i can customize the list to match that.
I have been looking through the forum to see if i can find the solution to this but am still unable to do so, so any help/direction would be appreciated. thanks
“johnhiler, if you like plugin-centric development, you should love the bbPress plugin so far (hopefully) 
Hopefully it’s able to walk the line and offer the best to both.”
@John James Jacoby – I’d love to hear more! What do you mean?
I think bbPress as a plugin is going to win a lot of people once it’s ready and out in the wild. 
Erlend, will try my darnedest to deliver
johnhiler, if you like plugin-centric development, you should love the bbPress plugin so far (hopefully) Hopefully it’s able to walk the line and offer the best to both.
What is a plugin and what is core is always one of those topics that tends to change and drift with the times. 6 years ago having properly formatted links to someones blogroll was considered important enough for WordPress core, but chances are people are using that functionality less and less as time goes on and people are able to connect to people more quickly and organically.
kevinjohn, we haven’t tackled it in the plugin version yet, but the difference between a ‘category’ and a ‘forum’ will be fairly distinct once we get it going. My experience working with the Categories Hierarchy project back in my phpBB days taught me the importance of handling the way those types of data behave.
“As for bundling multiple plugins with core — ultimately it’s a cop-out. If something is good enough to be included with the core download, put it in core!”
I’m a big fan of a plugin-centric approach to platform development. I would take the bbPress platform and add a ton more hooks and filters to it. Then I would document the heck out of it, and refactor as much of the core into external plugins as possible. That way, plugin developers would have a lean and mean core to program to.
It sounds like you prefer a core-centric approach. I have concerns that both WordPress and bbPress are increasingly becoming too heavyweight to support shared hosting (or to scale for larger sites, without expensive hardware). But perhaps I am underestimating the power of the dropping cost of hardware and of aggressive output caching.
I understand your general framework to approaching core features, and understand that it’s been successful for you with WordPress. It’s kind of similar to how Microsoft approaches integrating application features into its own core Operating System. Both platforms have been successful, so I can’t knock the approach.
I guess we’ll just agree to disagree on this one. I’m just a big believer in a plugin-centric model. I think WordPress has succeeded in spite of its aggressive core-centric model, not because of it. But I understand your philosophy, and respect your right to enforce it on future versions of bbPress.
Best,
John
Hello,
I’m working on a site with full integration of WordPress & bbPress. Everything is working great! (After a fair bit of fiddling! 
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So now I’m just working on cosmetics. I want to show both WordPress & bbPress admin links in the header. So I want to make it obvious which is which.
Is there anyway to get bb_admin_link to output something different than ‘Admin’. Does it take more arguments other than ‘after’ and ‘before’? Or do I need to hard-code it somewhere?
I’ve looked around a bit on the site, but I haven’t found much info on this function.
Thanks!
That sounds great but after nearly 3 hours of attempting to get it working… I just feel too tired to keep trying.
I’ve set everything as per the instructions (cookiedomains, hashes, etc.).
Both WP and bbPress are generating cookies with the same names and same paths.
But by some unknown (to me) force they refuse to recognize each other’s cookies – when I log into one of them I get thrown out of the other.
It’s bbPress 0.9.6 with WP 2.9.2
Maybe I’ll try on clean installs tomorrow…
I just don’t have a clue what’s wrong 
@Matt… so, are you planning on killing bbpress standalone or not? Why do you keep ignoring the question that 90% of the members here are wondering?
And what about the future of bbpress.org? Even an “I’m not sure yet” would be helpful.
It blows my mind that you don’t see the massive potential for an improved standalone version. You don’t even have to be that involved…
Screwing bbpress into a dumbed down plugin will just be another “Fireboard” like it was on Joomla… anyone remember? Complete chaos and confusion. You can’t try to please all demands with a middle-ground decision that accomplishes none of the above.
It only makes sense that there is a bbpress standalone with powerful plugins, that can integrate with WP. If you so desperately want a plugin, than make it a tiny lightweight little bugger that is for “mini forums” or something.
And again, where does this all leave backpress?
Is there any timetable when the bbPress plugin project would be ready?
I’ve set my hopes for a Christmas Alpha
Exactly the way I always dreamed it would be <3
Thanks for the answers guys, this really puts my mind at ease.
Is there any timetable when the bbPress plugin project would be ready?
It’ll be a while yet I’m sure? If we go anything by the 1.2 Milestone on the bbPress Trac, it says another 5 months away, and remember that at the moment we’ve only got Pete Mall and JJJ working on it!
@Matt Mullenweg: Glad to see you around here again!
I just got the message about having the upgrade the database (due to subscribe to topic being added and a database change.)
It seems that Matt listened to my request. Thank you, Matt!
When editing a reply, the “Notify me of followup posts via e-mail” text appears twice (once below the “Allowed markup” and once above.)
I think this is related to theme, I didn’t happen on my installation with Kakumei.
Also, followup is probably a lot like the work “alot”. Should be “follow up” I think. The whole sentence might need to be reworded. They’re not posts, they’re replies, right?
I made a patch that introduced this sentence and I copied it from popular WordPress plugin Subscribe to Comments. That of course doesn’t mean that it can’t be changed to any better one.
I think “Topic” should probably not be capitalized in the sidebar link. Just a suggestion.
This is how Matt made it when he introduced this feature in December (and how it was displayed here before update to 2.0), I didn’t change it in my patches.
bbPress plugin for WordPress with reply in WordPress theme reply form with Akismet maybe a good idea.
Is there any timetable when the bbPress plugin project would be ready?
Thanks for starting a new thread. Some of your sentences are unclear to me, so if I misunderstand a question just rephrase it and I’ll do my best to answer it.
The WordPress.org integration is done through a shared user table and the same settings for cookies. It is a bit of a hack right now because WP and bbPress have a different idea of how those global tables should look and fight to modify them, which is what took down WordPress.org the other day. (It’s very slow to modify the schema of a user table with hundreds of thousands of rows.)
As for running multiple instances of bbPress, on different domains even, we actually did a fair amount of work for that (was going to call it mubb.org) and it’s the code that currently powers TalkPress.com. However it’s not release quality and it becomes moot because once bbPress is a full WP plugin you get multi-site for free from WP’s built-in MS feature, so you could run as many bbPresses as you like from a single install.
johnhiler, plugins is core, additional functionality, and performance are orthogonal topics, in that one does not necessarily mean another and I think it’s dangerous to conflate them.
There was a bug with spam being sent out, but it was alpha software, and the bug was fixed as soon as someone left a patch for it.
If anything it should be easier to get a patch into core rather than a plugin because core has a dedicated Trac instance and multiple commiters, something most plugins do not. (Assuming they’re not abandoned.) Core is more likely to be translated than plugins.
Finally, it takes the emphasis off of a single person (most plugins have one author) and puts it onto the core development community, which bbPress has never had but needs to grow if it’s going to survive.
As for bundling multiple plugins with core — ultimately it’s a cop-out. If something is good enough to be included with the core download, put it in core! At that point you don’t gain anything from keeping it separate except the increased user cognitive load of having to activate 20 plugins to get, in their view, basic functionality and the instability of new plugins being unable to depend on functionality being there to extend it.
Hmm
When editing a reply, the “Notify me of followup posts via e-mail” text appears twice (once below the “Allowed markup” and once above.)
Also, followup is probably a lot like the work “alot“. Should be “follow up” I think. The whole sentence might need to be reworded. They’re not posts, they’re replies, right?
I think “Topic” should probably not be capitalized in the sidebar link. Just a suggestion.
I just got the message about having the upgrade the database (due to subscribe to topic being added and a database change.)
Looks like the subscribe to topic link is now present in the sidebar, with no template edits.
If you notice anything else weird here at bbpress.org/forums please post in this topic. Thanks.
Reference to your post # 71333
_KB_, could you start a new thread with any outstanding questions you have?
First of all thanks for giving me a chance, I’ve a question and some thoughts! hope you’ll like it.
Question:-
About Multiple Integration? (One WordPress Vs Multiple bbPress Standalone)
Description:
Currently people are just able to set integration with one wordpress to one bbpress install,If they want to run multiple boards then they are stick to install multple bbpress installs, after that they are just unable to set cookies integration over multiple boards ( Shared users integration and database integration works perfect, its not a big deal!). Yep, You’ve done it!, If I login to my http://wordpress.org/support/ then I don’t need to login again to WP Blackberry, WP iOS, or WP for Android Forums, I can still see my online status there. Can you shed some light how did you set it? ( Just Cookies integration over multiple boards).
Thoughts:
#-1:- Please don’t kill the bbpress standalone version, after bb-plugin’s announcement. Because sometimes some people just want to run a 100% community board ( without wordpres or any other platform), then this bbpress standalone version will be perfect for their needs.
#-2:- bbpress-plugin version should have a functionality; One bbpress per blog in wordpress mu
#-3, For standalone it may call BBMU.
Thanks, I’m really curious for your response.
Cheers
we took 2 feautres which worked brialliantly as plugins and added them to the core; without any real need for that to happen.
Subscribe to Topic wasn’t working without edits after 1.0 was released and _ck_ first announced that she won’t update any of her plugin until end of 2009 and later completely got out of bbPress world so we already needed a new plugin.
