[chrishajer]

@techypenguin: What do you mean, “Thanks but the quiries doesnt work” – you need to get it to work to see if that’s part of the problem. Then you need to figure out where the extra queries are coming from.

[_ck_]

You probably need to see a breakdown of queries between bbPress and WordPress to understand what’s going on. There may be a plugin in WordPress that’s causing it to lag for you.

But in general, bbPress 0.9 is faster than WordPress 2.3-2.7

It’s similar in concept WordPress 2.0 before it got bloated with too many “features” that should have been optional plugins.

bbPress 1.0 unfortunately will change that and slow down somewhat because of a radical increase in complexity and a doubling of the number of files needed to load to execute a page. Mysql queries will also increase by at least 50%

1.0 will be easier to cache however so that will probably compensate.

[techypenguin]

Thanks but the quiries doesnt work. might be because of my theme. anyway, most of the paid server out there are much faster than the virtualhost. all other cms template like phpbb3 and mambo i’ve tried are slower than the previous version of them. i already max out my cache on the server but it’s still slow . sometime it’s crash after a week or so. dont have budget for the bladeserver though.haha

[amagab]

I have a new bbpress forum integrated with WordPress 2.5.

I have 2 topics and 2 posts so far. However ,when I go into the admin panel and click on Manage and Topics and/or Posts there is nothing listed. It looks fine on the Forums page but nothing under Topics and Posts.

Why is that? How do I fix it?

Thanks!

[chrishajer]

More queries in WordPress vs. bbPress?

You can add this to your template footer.php (one for WordPress and one for bbPress) files and it will add a comment that is visible in the source with the amount of time taken and how many queries it took to generate the page.

bbPress

<!-- It took <?php bb_timer_stop(1); ?> and <?php echo $bbdb->num_queries; ?> queries -->

 

WordPress

<!-- It took <?php timer_stop(1); ?> and <?php echo get_num_queries(); ?> queries -->

 

Maybe you can spot some differences there.

[chrishajer]

No, I meant what I said. A lot of sites are just WordPress sites, so example.com/ gets you WordPress and example.com/bbpress/ gets you bbPress.

The point was only to show the relationship between the folders though. With this information, you can probably figure out where it all needs to go.

[techypenguin]

Thanks for this forum integration into WP.

Just what we needed for the blog.

I have one question here….

Why is BBpress much faster than WordPress?

They are freshly installed into a same debian server and wordpress would take a while to load. Most amazingly BBpress just take les than a second to load. Anyone got suggestions?

[kevinjohngallagher]

Sadly not mate.

I know what you’re thinking.

Something like : https://codex.wordpress.org/Template_Tags

But no, it’s all guess work.

[kevinjohngallagher]

I know what you’re thinking, that it probably *should* be mentioned either here:

https://bbpress.org/documentation/integration-with-wordpress/

or

https://bbpress.org/download/

but it’s not

BBpress, great software, also useful for testing your abilities to mind read!

[John James Jacoby]

That is why…

2.6x and .9 series won’t integrate or play nice together…

You could either go back to the 2.5 series of WordPress, or move up to the 1.0 beta version of bbPress…

[nookingtons]

BBPress Version- 0.9.0.2

Wordpress Version- 2.6.3

[John James Jacoby]

Which versions of bbPress and WordPress are you using?

[_ck_]

Unfortunately bbpress.org does not have theme browser yet like wordpress.org (which was just recently revamped).

bbpress.org is overdue for a makeover and I suspect they will get to that after 1.0 is released, maybe early next year.

[nookingtons]

I think it might be because i tried integrating with WordPress follwing the “Functions” rules on this site. I read somewhere here that it broke the login.

How can i fix it?

[Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)]

>> This meant once I’d logged in via bbPress, when I was browsing WordPress (although it set the ‘auth’ cookie fine and I could view wp-admin/) it ‘appeared’ that I was logged out (log in and register link, instead of log out and site admin). <<

I’m still having that problem, even after following those directions.

I have my WP site URL as root, but the wp-home is set to /blog (since that’s where the blog folder is).

Cookiepath is set to /forums/

sitecookiepath is set to /blog/

[kevinjohngallagher]

“Oh one big thing I should point out – the features in bbPress, and the time of the main developers are first and primarily geared towards the need of Automattic and WordPress.org – people forget or don’t realize that.”

We don’t get or realize that because… it’s not written anywhere.

We’re not mind readers.

“The features that are “missing” from bbPress just happen to be the features that Matt decided weren’t a priority for WordPress.org and the other Automattic forums.”

Oh. See, now that’s a totally different light on the subject. I didn’t realise i was building something for Matt to fit Matt’s needs and for the needs of Matt’s companies. Maybe that should be written down somewhere too…

“It’s also why there is no documentation, remember Matt has to pay the coders, why does he need documentation for 3rd party plugin developers if it’s just going to cost money.”

I do understand that, but surely the actual developers have some form of documentation too. Couldn’t we all see that to make ‘Matts’ product better? And it’s not like Automatic is short of a few bob.

Surely, from a business point of view, having documentation to increase the number of theme and plugin developers will increase the take-up rate of BBpress.

“bbPress 1.0 and the backpress integration are now being driven by Matt’s goal of TalkPress for WordPress.com members.”

So, what this means is that we can’t, as a community, do anything about anything, because we’re all following Matt’s plan, to which we have no feature list or roadmap or really any visibility of?

I dont expect Matt, or really any WordPress/Automatic employee, to have to run things by anyone in the community – i’m not saying that I do. But the… pretence that this is an open source project is totally nullified if we’re all coding against a grand plan and road map we’re not allowed to see.

If the new standard answer is going to be “that’s not on Matt’s wishlist but we’re not going to tell you what is on it – go on GUESS” then can start to see why so many people have left the BBpress community, and why all the themes/forums we’re seeing all look the same.

[Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)]

Psst! You mean to put bbpress here:

/home/www/example.com/bbpress

If you put it under wordpress, your URL will be http://www.example.com/wordpress/bbpress

[_ck_]

Oh one big thing I should point out – the features in bbPress, and the time of the main developers are first and primarily geared towards the need of Automattic and WordPress.org – people forget or don’t realize that.

Remember, bbPress is a purpose driven product that happens to also be open source. It wasn’t just a few people that said “hey let’s make a better free forum because we can”.

The features that are “missing” from bbPress just happen to be the features that Matt decided weren’t a priority for WordPress.org and the other Automattic forums. It’s also why there is no documentation, remember Matt has to pay the coders, why does he need documentation for 3rd party plugin developers if it’s just going to cost money.

bbPress 1.0 and the backpress integration are now being driven by Matt’s goal of TalkPress for WordPress.com members.

So there’s the logic that some might not understand without perspective. There are projects like SMF that literally WERE “let’s make a better free forum” that have matured now so you can compare to them – but remember they are half a decade old. bbPress is far younger (and bbPress is way easier to write mods for).

[WebDev WaxLotus LLC]

while ($stars_in_heavens) {

deadmedic.karma += extra_scoop_of_icecream();

deadmedic.praise_sung += 1;

}

You fixed it.

Here I was searching for all instances of setcookie…novice error!

WP2.6.3; bbPress 1.0a2; PHP5; Apache 1.3

I can log in and out of WP and bbPress from any direction!

I did not use the .htaccess edits, just the rtrim line.

Thank you, so very much!

I wonder if this is going to solve my bbSynch and bbLive issues?

BTW, there is a WP plugin to skin the wp login. They have a flickr group to share what people have done.

I like the idea of funneling registrations through bbPress, as most of my members will hit the fora.

I have to go and clean up some nasty things I’ve been saying around the web about integration…

Thanks again, man.

Cheers.

[mxadness]

A simple phpBB3 to bbPress converter would be great. I really hope this gets done soon — bbPress + WordPress absolutely rocks.

[chrishajer]

Put it in your root, but in a folder of its own. So, if you have WordPress here

/home/www/example.com/wordpress/

you can put bbPress here:

/home/www/example.com/wordpress/bbpress/

Then, your website/blog is http://www.example.com and your forum is http://www.example.com/bbpress/

You can call your folder whatever you want, it might be forum, forums, bbpress, anything at all.

[suzkaw]

I just ported the awesome iNove wordpress theme over to a bbPress template. Here is a link to download it and see a demo:

http://ericlbarnes.com/inove-for-bbpress/

Hope someone finds it useful!

[matteoraggi]

in installation manual is written to upload files, but not in which folder of wordpress, into plugins or content or on root or where?

[stevedrum]

as someone who has used phpbb 2, phpbb3, invision and many other smaller packages i was probably a little bit biased towards forums. but then i started blogging with wordpress, and hence to bbpress.

let me say first of all that i like bbpress. after using those other bloated packages for years, it’s refreshing to get back to what it’s all about: a lightweight forum that’s just for… talking.

but i agree with the guy who wrote the original post. there are some things that a forum package needs. using bbpress straight out of the box is like stepping back in time.

here are my personal bugbears…

1) guests need the ability to post. you can’t build up a forum from scratch without that — it’s near impossible. because no one bothers to sign-up until the forum is relatively busy.

2) you need some kind of permission system. otherwise how can you talk to the other moderators? there is no PM system (which is fine) — but the only way you can do it out of the box is by email. you need to be able to create a forum that only the moderators can see, and other stuff like that.

i haven’t looked at the new version you’re working on, so maybe they are included in the new one. but leaving stuff like that up to the plug-in makers is crazy. Not that the plugins wouldn’t work fine, because no doubt they would — but nobody could be certain that a plugin will still work when a new version comes out. it could potentially wreck the usability of your board.

i think when you leave simple stuff like that out all it does is put off the people who might otherwise be prepared to switch over from packages like phpbb.

i do like bbpress though, and i am still going to carry on using it. …so i say these criticisms with love!

[epiphone]

This is a interesting post.

Im currently running WP 2.5.1 and bbPress 0.9.2, and Im getting slightly worried on falling behind on WordPress upgrades. I think this the most success someones had with WP 2.7 and bbPress.

Im sure I’ve seen a WP 2.6.3 and bbPress 1.0.2 installation and it didn’t like it at all, sent out a redirect loop.

Thanks for sharing