[_ck_]

I’m not a fan of XML-RPC myself but it’s a feature Matt wanted to pioneer. He mentioned it in one of his first announcements about bbPress. He wanted some features no other forum has. Given that it’s his “baby” he can guide it in any direction he feels fit of course.

bbPress is just like WordPress in one major way – if you don’t like something, or want to make it better – get coding.

WordPress didn’t have documentation for YEARS. You can find many complaints about it. Even as recent as 2.0 I believe. But look at it now.

bbPress is the same way. And in a couple years, newcomers will wonder what the heck you were complaining about.

Last but not least, in fact most importantly, you’re working with a pre 1.0, pre-release project – what exactly are you expecting? Features aren’t even locked in yet.

I only learned PHP a few years ago and I figured out how to code for bbPress, 100% without documentation. If I can do it, anyone can.

[Silvanovicz]

Hi John – _CK_’s pluging bring up related topics, but this plugin only works in bbPress.

I’m after a plugin that shows related topics on a WordPress article (so you’d be able to show related posts and related topics on the forum).

[_ck_]

Their server might have networked storage (NFS) which WordPress runs poorly on. bbPress 1.0 will have similar issues because of the sheer number of files.

But try installing bb-benchmark on the bbPress side and try this great-grandfather of bb-benchmark on the WordPress side (jeromes-query-diagnostics). I’ve been too busy to port bb-benchmark back to wordpress unfortunately.

[chrishajer]

@techypenguin: What do you mean, “Thanks but the quiries doesnt work” – you need to get it to work to see if that’s part of the problem. Then you need to figure out where the extra queries are coming from.

[_ck_]

You probably need to see a breakdown of queries between bbPress and WordPress to understand what’s going on. There may be a plugin in WordPress that’s causing it to lag for you.

But in general, bbPress 0.9 is faster than WordPress 2.3-2.7

It’s similar in concept WordPress 2.0 before it got bloated with too many “features” that should have been optional plugins.

bbPress 1.0 unfortunately will change that and slow down somewhat because of a radical increase in complexity and a doubling of the number of files needed to load to execute a page. Mysql queries will also increase by at least 50%

1.0 will be easier to cache however so that will probably compensate.

[techypenguin]

Thanks but the quiries doesnt work. might be because of my theme. anyway, most of the paid server out there are much faster than the virtualhost. all other cms template like phpbb3 and mambo i’ve tried are slower than the previous version of them. i already max out my cache on the server but it’s still slow . sometime it’s crash after a week or so. dont have budget for the bladeserver though.haha

[amagab]

I have a new bbpress forum integrated with WordPress 2.5.

I have 2 topics and 2 posts so far. However ,when I go into the admin panel and click on Manage and Topics and/or Posts there is nothing listed. It looks fine on the Forums page but nothing under Topics and Posts.

Why is that? How do I fix it?

Thanks!

[chrishajer]

More queries in WordPress vs. bbPress?

You can add this to your template footer.php (one for WordPress and one for bbPress) files and it will add a comment that is visible in the source with the amount of time taken and how many queries it took to generate the page.

bbPress

<!-- It took <?php bb_timer_stop(1); ?> and <?php echo $bbdb->num_queries; ?> queries -->

 

WordPress

<!-- It took <?php timer_stop(1); ?> and <?php echo get_num_queries(); ?> queries -->

 

Maybe you can spot some differences there.

[chrishajer]

No, I meant what I said. A lot of sites are just WordPress sites, so example.com/ gets you WordPress and example.com/bbpress/ gets you bbPress.

The point was only to show the relationship between the folders though. With this information, you can probably figure out where it all needs to go.

[techypenguin]

Thanks for this forum integration into WP.

Just what we needed for the blog.

I have one question here….

Why is BBpress much faster than WordPress?

They are freshly installed into a same debian server and wordpress would take a while to load. Most amazingly BBpress just take les than a second to load. Anyone got suggestions?

[kevinjohngallagher]

Sadly not mate.

I know what you’re thinking.

Something like : https://codex.wordpress.org/Template_Tags

But no, it’s all guess work.

[kevinjohngallagher]

I know what you’re thinking, that it probably *should* be mentioned either here:

https://bbpress.org/documentation/integration-with-wordpress/

or

https://bbpress.org/download/

but it’s not

BBpress, great software, also useful for testing your abilities to mind read!

[John James Jacoby]

That is why…

2.6x and .9 series won’t integrate or play nice together…

You could either go back to the 2.5 series of WordPress, or move up to the 1.0 beta version of bbPress…

[nookingtons]

BBPress Version- 0.9.0.2

Wordpress Version- 2.6.3

[John James Jacoby]

Which versions of bbPress and WordPress are you using?

[_ck_]

Unfortunately bbpress.org does not have theme browser yet like wordpress.org (which was just recently revamped).

bbpress.org is overdue for a makeover and I suspect they will get to that after 1.0 is released, maybe early next year.

[nookingtons]

I think it might be because i tried integrating with WordPress follwing the “Functions” rules on this site. I read somewhere here that it broke the login.

How can i fix it?

[Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)]

>> This meant once I’d logged in via bbPress, when I was browsing WordPress (although it set the ‘auth’ cookie fine and I could view wp-admin/) it ‘appeared’ that I was logged out (log in and register link, instead of log out and site admin). <<

I’m still having that problem, even after following those directions.

I have my WP site URL as root, but the wp-home is set to /blog (since that’s where the blog folder is).

Cookiepath is set to /forums/

sitecookiepath is set to /blog/

[kevinjohngallagher]

“Oh one big thing I should point out – the features in bbPress, and the time of the main developers are first and primarily geared towards the need of Automattic and WordPress.org – people forget or don’t realize that.”

We don’t get or realize that because… it’s not written anywhere.

We’re not mind readers.

“The features that are “missing” from bbPress just happen to be the features that Matt decided weren’t a priority for WordPress.org and the other Automattic forums.”

Oh. See, now that’s a totally different light on the subject. I didn’t realise i was building something for Matt to fit Matt’s needs and for the needs of Matt’s companies. Maybe that should be written down somewhere too…

“It’s also why there is no documentation, remember Matt has to pay the coders, why does he need documentation for 3rd party plugin developers if it’s just going to cost money.”

I do understand that, but surely the actual developers have some form of documentation too. Couldn’t we all see that to make ‘Matts’ product better? And it’s not like Automatic is short of a few bob.

Surely, from a business point of view, having documentation to increase the number of theme and plugin developers will increase the take-up rate of BBpress.

“bbPress 1.0 and the backpress integration are now being driven by Matt’s goal of TalkPress for WordPress.com members.”

So, what this means is that we can’t, as a community, do anything about anything, because we’re all following Matt’s plan, to which we have no feature list or roadmap or really any visibility of?

I dont expect Matt, or really any WordPress/Automatic employee, to have to run things by anyone in the community – i’m not saying that I do. But the… pretence that this is an open source project is totally nullified if we’re all coding against a grand plan and road map we’re not allowed to see.

If the new standard answer is going to be “that’s not on Matt’s wishlist but we’re not going to tell you what is on it – go on GUESS” then can start to see why so many people have left the BBpress community, and why all the themes/forums we’re seeing all look the same.

[Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)]

Psst! You mean to put bbpress here:

/home/www/example.com/bbpress

If you put it under wordpress, your URL will be http://www.example.com/wordpress/bbpress

[_ck_]

Oh one big thing I should point out – the features in bbPress, and the time of the main developers are first and primarily geared towards the need of Automattic and WordPress.org – people forget or don’t realize that.

Remember, bbPress is a purpose driven product that happens to also be open source. It wasn’t just a few people that said “hey let’s make a better free forum because we can”.

The features that are “missing” from bbPress just happen to be the features that Matt decided weren’t a priority for WordPress.org and the other Automattic forums. It’s also why there is no documentation, remember Matt has to pay the coders, why does he need documentation for 3rd party plugin developers if it’s just going to cost money.

bbPress 1.0 and the backpress integration are now being driven by Matt’s goal of TalkPress for WordPress.com members.

So there’s the logic that some might not understand without perspective. There are projects like SMF that literally WERE “let’s make a better free forum” that have matured now so you can compare to them – but remember they are half a decade old. bbPress is far younger (and bbPress is way easier to write mods for).

[WebDev WaxLotus LLC]

while ($stars_in_heavens) {

deadmedic.karma += extra_scoop_of_icecream();

deadmedic.praise_sung += 1;

}

You fixed it.

Here I was searching for all instances of setcookie…novice error!

WP2.6.3; bbPress 1.0a2; PHP5; Apache 1.3

I can log in and out of WP and bbPress from any direction!

I did not use the .htaccess edits, just the rtrim line.

Thank you, so very much!

I wonder if this is going to solve my bbSynch and bbLive issues?

BTW, there is a WP plugin to skin the wp login. They have a flickr group to share what people have done.

I like the idea of funneling registrations through bbPress, as most of my members will hit the fora.

I have to go and clean up some nasty things I’ve been saying around the web about integration…

Thanks again, man.

Cheers.

[mxadness]

A simple phpBB3 to bbPress converter would be great. I really hope this gets done soon — bbPress + WordPress absolutely rocks.

[chrishajer]

Put it in your root, but in a folder of its own. So, if you have WordPress here

/home/www/example.com/wordpress/

you can put bbPress here:

/home/www/example.com/wordpress/bbpress/

Then, your website/blog is http://www.example.com and your forum is http://www.example.com/bbpress/

You can call your folder whatever you want, it might be forum, forums, bbpress, anything at all.

[suzkaw]

I just ported the awesome iNove wordpress theme over to a bbPress template. Here is a link to download it and see a demo:

http://ericlbarnes.com/inove-for-bbpress/

Hope someone finds it useful!