[KentonMr]

@kevinjohngallagher

I’ll ignore all the personal rhetoric and slight aimed in my direction and try to respond to the points raised.

I am new to bbPress (you may have noticed that this is my first topic/post on the forum) so know nothing bbPress, its history, development and evidently tight allegiance to wordpress.

bbPress was selected because “out of the box” it works, and from what I have seen of the plug-ins they also work well.

I think my original topic title has been mis-understood by you, and maybe others as well.

“Feeding topics from external source”

In the external source users will not have the option to set a topic title it will be predetermined by the PmWiki page that is being edited.

In fact it is the reverse of the “Blog this” that has been suggested elsewhere though restricted to the same site’s forum rather than the user’s own personal blog.

Any member has full access to the forums and so is able to start a new topic with a slightly varied topic title. That is not a major issue as the moderators will attend to them. However when posting externally a new topic there is the chance that any editor of the Wiki could initiate the “Forum this” button to start a discussion of that page in the related forum. Therefore without the check the potential of having 100’s of topics created with the same title is great.

In the end it has been very easy to code – It works well and I will even look at the possibility of including it to generate a warning to users in the forum so that we can cut back on duplicate topics in general.

Every forum/blog/wiki open to members has to have a set of accepted policies to govern usability. The site is very specialised with nearly 2000 wiki page-topic combinations. The topics are specifically for a parallel discussion about each wiki page. Elsewhere just about any reasonable discussion is possible.

[kevinjohngallagher]

@Quicoto

Respecftully, you’re very wrong.

SEO in no way shape or form is affected by having the same Post title on a forum (note it’s not the title of the page).

Search Engines are smart enough to differentiate between pages on a website if they have different URLS.

You’ve made the same very wrong assumption the original poster had, that by having a post with the same title, that the post title is not checked and given a unique URL. Don’t get me wrong, it’s only been that way for 3 years here on bbPress…

@KentonMr

But. I am astonished that there is no checking in bbPress to see if a topic already exists in a forum before allowing a topic with exactly the same title to be created.

Um, there is.

Surely this is an important feature and should be handled by bb_new_topic() if only through an optional arg.

I generally find that people who use the word “surely” have decided something, and think everyone should agree And the function you reffer to is pluggable, so you can overwrite it to do what you want.

Given that you’re the first person on this forum in the 3 years I’ve been here to request this feature, or worse, assume it’s already there (even though WordPress/BackPress/every-other-automattic-product handles it the same way as bbPress does); maybe just maybe you should not make so many assumptions.

Thats not me having a go, its just that you’re opnly going to be disappointed

However, in some forums (especially one of the forums on the site I am building I do not want users repeating the same topic and would want them to add to the topic that has already been started.

And here we hit 2 issues:

1) Waaaaaaah. I’ve decided that bbPress should work in the same way as other forums, even though it clearly doesn’t, say it doesn’t, and is far from bloated or as feature rich as these other un-named forums.

Btw Can i ask what other forums have this feature? (i’m not doubting you, i’ve just never come across it before)

2) I need X custom feature for MY forums, and bbPress doesn’t have it. Why not? grrrrrr

$bbdb->get_var($bbdb->prepare(“SELECT topic_id FROM $bbdb->topics WHERE topic_title = %s”, $topic_title))

If users can create topics, then users will eventually duplicate topics. All you’re doing is assuming that every user will use the exact same title for the exact same subject and all spell the title the exact same way. My friend, thats a very large group of assumptions.

You’re also assuming that no users will decide that their opinion is v important and deliberately start their own post with a slightly different title – just to get round your warning.

Or what happens when a subject gets bogged down in a flame war?

Or when people start taking it off topic?

Or what happens when people don’t want to wade through 15 pages of “+1” or “lol”?

That will get harder and harder as your forum grows, especially if it’s got a rather specific subject matter. I can understand where this idea comes from, from a website owner point of view, but the usability and long term goal of the this feature is seriously flawed.

Users on a forum, by their very nature, want to create new threads. Creating 1 stream of replies for 1 single topic… thats a blog. Forums are “many to many” or “n to n”. To restrict that in any way is to deviate from what the userbase expects, and inherantly, their desire to use the system.

You come across as very intelligent, and you’ve clearly thought this through from your point of view. Have you thought it through from your users?

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[kevinjohngallagher]

I’m not a huge fan of these themes, as for the most part its just the wrapper of the forum that’s themed differently (which will mostly be removed if made to look like a wordpress website); but I’m very grateful to Refuelled for working on them and releasing them.

Thank You, It’s very much appreciated!

And Xevo, don’t worry about. Everyone’s entitled to their opinion, even… people who’ve been on the site for 6 hours, who use 3 different themes on their own website and can’t get their email to work

[holysjit]

Still it doesn’t work. In BBpress my avatars work perfect, but in wordpress it shows the default Gravatar icon. HELP!

[seoswamy]

WordPress integration rocks

[asorethumb]

You’ll need to sync your cookies. Several topics on this – heres one:

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/wordpress-and-bbpress-integration-101#post-17414

Try the ‘cookies’ tag for lots more on the subject…

[kevinjohngallagher]

Hi Lethality,

Sadly WordPress/bbPress integration isn’t well defined anywhere outside this website – it basically means shared users and login (though for alot of people thats ideal).

If you have the cash to spend on something that already works, I’d definately favour that option.

The idea of extending bbPress into WordPress is a good one, but of course you’d still need to edit WordPress to either post comments to the right forum, or to redirect to the right forum if someone tried to add a comment. I’d be surprised if there was much desire for this on the whole, so going with the existing solution might be your best bet.

Good luck in whatever you decide, and let us know

Kev

[refueled]

Release Page:

http://bbterminal.net/thunderbolt/

Matching WordPress theme:

http://empirethemes.com/thunderbolt/

We have more bbPress themes on the way!

[kevinjohngallagher]

bbPress and WordPress users can be sync’d without too much hassle.

Sadly I don’t know the answers to the SMF question, but Paul Hawke has been working on an import to bbPress feature, i think it’s in this thread:

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/import-data-from-system-xy

That would certainly be my first port of call.

As much as I like bbPress, I’d also strongly advise thinking long and hard before moving to it. It’s feature list is limited at best, and right now Automattic can’t even get the theme fo this website right. AS long as it meets your criteria then Awesome, but definately look into this first

Kev

[chrishajer]

Sounds like you have two different issues. Which one would you like to work on in this topic? Choose one, then start another topic for the other, please.

[Coronita-C2]

Hi!

I want to automatically login if I logged in before, so if I logged in my wordpress site, I automatically login to the bbPress site, and if I logged in bbPress site, I automatically login to my wordpress site.

Anybody help me please!

THX!

[Coronita-C2]

Hi, I started a new website in WordPress, with BBPress forum, and I want to see the pages links anywhere (http://veteran.blogja.net , you see the links in top, and I want to see the links anywhere in http://veteran.blogja.net/bbpress).

Is anybody know how to paste my links to the bbpress forum?

Thanx!

[Coronita-C2]

Hi. I started creating my new website since May. 22, but I now have a very long list with problems.

So I have wanted to set the language in my WordPress > BBPress forum, but I couldn’t change it.

I installed the BBPress and I copy the language files (my-languages/hu_HU/trunk, tags, branches | trunk’s have 2 files (hu_HU.so/.mo), tags have a directory (0.9.0.6) and the directory’s have two files (hu_HU.so/.mo).

I changed the bb-config file – define( ‘BB_LANG’, ” ); -> define( ‘BB_LANG’, ‘hu_HU’ ); -, but it’s does NOT changed language to hungarian language, so I’m sad now.

Please anybody tell me, khm: write me: How to change the language?!

Thank’s!

[Lazygamer]

Hi I have a few website domains for country specific content and I would like them all to share the same forum.

At the moment they are all hosted on the same wordpress site with different themes to differentiate but I notice that the BBPress software sends all the links back to the original URL I registered with…

Can I change this…

Simple example

http://www.lazygamer.net/forum

and

http://www.lazygamer.co.za/forum

go to the same site but all the links have .co.za in them when I want them to have whichever domain I came from instead

[jomontvm]

I am using wordpress-mu-2.9.2 and bbpress-1.0.2.

Has anyone implemented this successfully?

please help me to include wpmu sidebar in bbpress template.

[_ck_]

I like this quote on the about page

WordPress and bbPress are siblings, and they get along together a lot better than you and your brother did when you were kids!

I always thought of bbPress as WordPress’s kid sister.

However the alignment of the about page is wonky because of the background image on Customizable Templates.

[kevinjohngallagher]

Hi Cillian,

sorry, the weekend got away from me a little.

My suggestions are going to seem really really obvious, sorry in advance, but good to check these things out.

1) Did logging in/out work before?

2) What changed since then?

Can you change back to the default themes in bbPress and WordPress and then do the following, noting your server error log along the way (after each step):

3) navigate away form your website, then clear your cookies, the restart your browser.

4) Try and login via your bbPress.

5) navigate away form your website, then clear your cookies, the restart your browser.

6) Try and login via WordPress

7) navigate away form your website, then clear your cookies, the restart your browser.

try and register with bbPress

9) navigate away form your website, then clear your cookies, the restart your browser.

10) Register via WordPress.

I know those steps are painful, and a bit pedantic, but cookies are a VERY big pain if they don’t work first time when integrating these two systems (especially if you’re logged in as admin/keymaster at the time of installation/integration). Right now, it appears you’re in the 1% rather than the 99% mate, but lets try and fix that.

Kev

[chrishajer]

Wasn’t there another post recently where this same error came up?

Could Not Find Blog!

Searched for [mydomain]/forums/ in mydb::wp_blogs table. Is that right?

Can’t seem to find it right now.

[kevinjohngallagher]

I’m not sure how/why including wordpress files would make integration easier (infact I can’t think of quite a few ways it makes them more annoying).

What is it exactly you are trying to do?

have you read teh documentation: https://bbpress.org/documentation/integration-with-wordpress/

[kevinjohngallagher]

Any idea what versions of software you’re using please?

And the instructions you’ve linked to are for WordPress, not WordPress MU. (it’s a very different beast).

Basically, if you’re using WordPress MU or BuddyPress, the chances of us being able to help are very slim, sorry.

Kev

[trainhappy]

include the wordpress include files to make it easier for intergration

[jomontvm]

I have integrated bbpress with wordpress mu. I want to use wordpress functions in my bbpress pages, especially to include wordpress sidebar in forum pages.

I have included “wp-load.php” in bb-config.php as described here.

http://bbpress.org/documentation/integration-with-wordpress/#functions

but i am getting Fatal error like this

“

Could Not Find Blog!

Searched for [mydomain]/forums/ in mydb::wp_blogs table. Is that right?

“

This considers “forums” as a blog name (“forums” is my bbpress folder). Without including “wp-load.php”, my forum works fine.

What should I do to avoid this and to point to the forum page?

Also, how can I get wordpress sidebar included in forum pages?

[Damien]

I’ve made a clone of a image rating/sharing website working with wordpress, of all things, with a few custom plugins etc… and needing a 100% integrated forum to go with all it bbpress was the obvious choice. I’ve managed to roll it all up so you do everything from a custom wordpress profile page and upload avatars and stuff that can be used sitewide. I never want my users seeing a wordpress or bbpress admin/profile edit page, it must all run with the site’s main theme.

I started again with the theme so it fits the site (it’s very basic, and nothing much is visible to unregistered users) and it’s been fun & frustrating getting things working how I’d like. I guess when bbpress is released as a wp plugin in future I get to bang my head on the desk all over again.

I still have a hell of a lot of things to do anyways. Some of the stuff on the main site is nsfw, so yeah.

here’s the forum inside the wp theme so far http://imgxtc.com/boards/

[chrishajer]

And this too:

https://bbpress.org/documentation/integration-with-wordpress/

[kevinjohngallagher]

Yeah for sure, I helped out with the original WordOfRaids back in the day and they do that, but they just manually link to a forum post ( i set up a custom field on WordPress, so they make forum and copy/paste into there).

I’m not against the idea, its just definitely not going to be “off the shelf”; and nor is the original poster’s ideal solution going to be easy to come by (where it all happens automatically, though if you had time and the need it’s v possible).

I sent slightly off topic (big shock) but this sort of thing depends on the usergroup immensely. people who play mmorpgs as an example are used to forums and doing things in front of others; where as say a Classical Music Magazine website/blog’s users might not be really up for entering a forum flame war. Sorry if i gave the wrong impression, I sometimes feel its better to manage expectations a little with bbPress, especially with all the wordPress “as a CMS that can do anything” stuff flying around