[kevinjohngallagher]

If you’ve been using WP for 3+ years, maybe you’d have the know how to read that bbPress and BuddyPress are different things. I’d you’re using BuddyPress, you should head to the BuddyPress forums.

And just to be clear, cos you’ve not given a whole

lot of information: bbPress is a stand alone forum that you can add shared cookies with WordPress, but it’s not there our of the box.

So if you’re not using BuddyPress, feel free to come back with more info, a better attitude, and we’ll try and help

oh and can i ask, after how long of using WordPress do humans stop making errors?? Glad you decided it was definately bbPress at fault and no possibility of anything else

[kevinjohngallagher]

Ah right, well in that case what you want is this:

1) A “forum/category” that users can add to threads, but not make their own threads. (requires a bbPress plugin)

2) A plugin in WordPress that “posts” a thread in that same “forum/category” for users to comment on.

3) When someone clicks on a link on your blog to read comments, that link should go to the right forum (that’ll require a plugin too)

4) When someone enters a comment on your blog post, it posts it to the forum (another plugin – possibly an extention of the same one but new functionality). It should then link them to their comment (which is actually a forum post).

You’re basically looking at a WordPress plugin that has 3 main functions which go against how WordPress works. Its possible, totally possible really, but it’s neither simple or straightforward. Given that the work would have to be done at the WordPress end, you’d have more luck posting there than here sadly.

I’d also strongly suggest against this sort of thing. While in theory you’re moving the “conversation” to one place rather than two, you’re also duplicating the blog post into two places. That always confuses users. Its also worth thinking about whether you have the size of userbase where this will be benefitial. Lastly, people use blog comments and forums for different things. At a technical level they are very similar, and many experienced forum users look on both in a truly similar light; but your “average joe” sees a comment on a blog post as a comment on the blog post, while a forum is an open place to talk – or realistically have others argue against what was said.

A comment is a “1 to 1” communication (seen by others ofcourse), while a forum is an “many to many” communication; and users do treat them differently at a base level.

If you thought this was imperative for your site, i’d suggest ignoring the bbpress aspect of it, and pay someone very knowledgable to theme your comment sections to look/work like a forum. bbPress is going that wasy as a wordpress plugin, so pay for or putitng the large amount of time and effort into coding your solution might have very little RoI.

Good luck whatever you do, and keep us posted if you do anythign v cool!!

[kevinjohngallagher]

Ok, lets see what we can do here:

1) What version of WordPress?

2) What version of bbPress?

3) Are they integrated (share login cookies)?

4) Are they “deep integrated” (can call functions in the other program)?

5) Do you have the latest version of akismet on both WP and bbP?

6) What happens when you log in and post?

7) What happens when you log in and post as a new user (i.e. not as you)?

Are you using buddyPress?

9) Have to tried disabling all plugins and trying again?

10) Are you using a premium (paid for) theme?

11) If so, have to tried switching to the default theme?

12) When you say things appear in your akismet que and then akismet

13) Are comments getting through akismet on wordpress?

I selected the check box next to “Create a page that shows spam

statistics” on the Akismet page. The page showed there was 26 post in the spam section.

I selected spam in the drop down box but the messages do not show up even

after I click on filter. I don’t know of any other way to get to the

messages to see if they are all spam

Um, is this on the wordpress side or the bbPress side?

[leander8728]

Yes i have done that

This is the result, i don’t have testing it. But when i have enough time i will do that: https://buddypress.org/community/groups/requests-feedback/forum/topic/wordpressmu-buddypress-bbpess-same-avatar/#post-55137

[kevinjohngallagher]

This is certainly possible with some custom code, though the real question remains as to why you want it. Given the WordPress comment systems have a far greater “forum-ness” about them these days (pagination, avatars, html/bbcode, wyswig threading etc etc). What would be the advantage to your users of having the same content in two different places on your website?

In fact, wouldn’t it be easier to just theme your wordpress to make your comments bigger and loko more forum like (maybe even removing the actual article on page 2 of the comments?)?

On one of my wordpress installs, the blog-post only appears on the initial page and with no comments, and all the comments are handled under “www.website.com/blog-post/comments” so they have their own pages with more space etc. It works really well for that site in a place where I couldn’t have used bbPress due to it’s complete lack of moderation.

[Rich Pedley]

oh.

I would like to get the same avatar in bbpress as in WordPressMU. On this moment, the WordPressMU and bbpress avatars are different. Is there a plugin to get the same avatar from WordPressMU in bbpress?

hmmm.

try asking on the buddypress forums then.

[Lethality]

Well, this actually isn’t what I’m looking for. It does integrate the two for a shared “login” but that’s not what I need.

I’m hoping to find a forum I can attach as the comment repository.

For example… When I post a WordPress article, I’d like it to ALSO created a Forum Topic. Then, any time someone comments on the blog article, a post in the forum is created from it.. and vice versa (if someone is commenting in the forums, it will be displayed with the other comments in the blog)

Anyone doing anything like this?

[GW]

Hi,

I’m working on integrating my bbpress and wordpress sites, and I appear to have done some serious damage.

My forum now does not allow me to login. http://bit.ly/aJzdNs

Any ideas?

[Rich Pedley]

bbpress / wordpress avatar?

any use?

[leander8728]

Hmmmm okay! I hope there was an easyer way to do this, like a plugin or something. But i give it a try to look into the WordPress and bbPress files!

[leander8728]

“When joe average says “hey, how do i upload an avatar like jim bob over there?” and your answer involves him leaving your website, signing up for a wordpress account and then… etc. it’s over!”

But my WordPressMU blog en bbPress forum is connected with a bridge. So a user has one account for the WordPress en bbPress installation. If he upload a avatar on WordPress (because profile pages in bbPress links to the profile pages in WordPress, so i use only WordPress for profile pages) it cames on wordpress, but not in bbPress. And that is wat i would.

I use Gravatars for the standard avatars, but it is more personal to upload your own avatar. And to upload a avatar twice (WordPress and bbPress) isn’t very user friendly.

Thx,

Leander

[chrishajer]

You can expire all their login cookies by changing the secret keys in your bb-config.php file. See the note (which is present in wp-config.php but not in bb-config.php I don’t think):

https://core.trac.wordpress.org/browser/trunk/wp-config-sample.php#L41

[kevinjohngallagher]

Gravatars is a wonderful tool, and those of us who are technical or on multiple forums can see their advantage. The average joe blog, probably can’t; or doesn’t have one already.

When joe average says “hey, how do i upload an avatar like jim bob over there?” and your answer involves him leaving your website, signing up for a wordpress account and then… etc. it’s over!

Gravatars are a nice default, but it’s far from a solution for the majority of forums out there.

To give a few examples:

1) I only uploaded an avatar to Gravatars last week. This aint my first or only forum and i’m slightly more technical and active on forums that the average joe user.

2) On my largest bbPress site (which isn’t that big compared to others on here) less than 1% of users have a gravatar, and definately less than 5% of active users do ( i made on of those Gravatar walls for them last week after Matt posted a link to one on planet.wordpress.org)

It’s definaely something I’d recommend to everyone to see what teh Gravatar uptake on their forums is actually like.

3) Depending on the forum, human avatars aren’t ideal. I run a forum for my brothers warcraft group. 2-300 users, about 30 active each day. Since enabling avatars for them, not 1 picture of them; just loads of gnomes and green skinned dudes.

Sadly, as a forum, one of bbPress’ big downfalls from an end user perspective is personalisation (and Avatars being one).

[leander8728]

Because i use Gravatars, but users have the rights in WordPressMU to upload there own Avatar’s. The standard avatars are Gravatars.

[leander8728]

Hi,

I would like to get the same avatar in bbpress as in WordPressMU. On this moment, the WordPressMU and bbpress avatars are different. Is there a plugin to get the same avatar from WordPressMU in bbpress?

Thanks,

Leander

[paulhawke]

Purely a matter of taste – and a chance for everyone to weigh-in with their own opinion without anyone being “wrong” – what’re your preferred development tools when dealing with PHP, and more specifically, with WordPress / bbPress code?

In my day-job I live and breath Java code and use JetBrains IntelliJ IDEA, which itself doesnt support PHP out of the box but a sister product from JetBrains (was called “WebIDE” and now I think is “PHPStorm”) does an exceptionally good job of supporting development in PHP. I was also pleasantly surprised and find myself occasionally using NetBeans v6.8 too. Both development environments allow very fast cross-referencing of methods. Both tools mirror local development remotely – handling the upload/download of changes.

If I’m not in an IDE, then it’s TextWrangler on my Mac or UltraEdit on a PC, uploads handled using FileZilla.

[Coop1979]

Hi all –

I’m new here, but have been doing a lot of research recently on moving my bridged Drupal/vBulletin site to WordPress and bbPress. There have been many changes with vBulletin management and policies lately, and many people are looking for alternatives to VB as their forum software. The only obstacle keeping me from jumping into bbPress is a direct vBulletin -> bbPress import script.

In my opinion, this is the only thing keeping bbpress from really catching on fire. If anyone has the know-how to do it and is interested, I can help fund the script. If anyone else would like to throw in to help the creation of it, please chime in. Once it’s done we can give it to the community and watch bbpress explode.

[pagal]

Topic has been resolved…

credit goes to kevinjohngallagher…

for more info visit

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/using-login_form-from-bbpress-on-a-wordpress-site

[pagal]

@ kevinjohngallagher… now it works

@ mr_pelle..I’m really sorry that after using bb-load.php into wp I was facing various problems..they are pointed at

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/wordpress-registration-and-login-via-bbpress

@ kevinjohngallagher… I really appreciate your help that you safe me from using bb-load.php into wp ..thanks,

Now I’m agree with your statement i.e.

Remember, hardcoding is your friend, because YOU control it

[Terranb]

Hi All. I had registrations using bbpress (but also registering in wordpress) working fine with beta 1.

Now with beta 2 if I try to register in bbpress I get the message “Email Email is required” even though I’ve entered an email. My guess is that beta 2 changed how the emails are stored in the database maybe?

Registering through wordpress works fine, but it’s doing what it always did which is make the bbpress role “Inactive (no role)” which means it’s not instant, and I have to go in to make the change.

I had a plugin installed that fixed this problem, but it stopped working with another update.

Any thoughts on how to fix either of these so things work again?

[kevinjohngallagher]

@pagal

Hi Pagal,

the code you’ve linked to looks quite identical to both mine and Gautam’s; but to clarify that also only going to work on WordPress files (not bbPress) unless you have Deep Integration enabled and working.

Presuming then that you’re working from wordpress and/or with deeply integrated bbpress this code should help:

if ( !$user_id ) {

$current_user = wp_get_current_user();

$user_id = $current_user->ID;

} else {

$user_id = (int) $user_id;

}

if ($user_id != 0)

{

$userdata = get_userdata($user_id);

$pagal_this_is_the_username_you_want = $userdata->user_login;

}

[kevinjohngallagher]

Morning lads,

Sun is shining here, hope you’re all having a great day.

@mr_pelle

I think we’re going in circles a little here; and its a position we’ve all been in and can feel your pain a little.

I see where I might have confused you yesterday.

Including the WordPress loader in the bbPress config file, so that bbPress has access to WordPress functions, is where most (if not all) of the deep integration questions/work/answers have been derived from. It’s a one way system, calling wordpress functions in bbpress. It’s not a two way system (where wordpress can call bbpress functions, and vice versa).

Hardcoding is not a good choice IMHO, because it means you have to update many pages everytime you change your mind just on a single line of code

Not really. You’d have to edit it once in the header in wrodpress and once in the header in bbpress. Being absolutely frank with you, that is the minimum you have to do everytime you make a change to your themes anyway because bbpress and wordpress don’t load the same theme files.

The way to think of bbPress and WordPress is of two separate systems that share login cookies and you can fake each’s themes make look like each other.

It’s a tough nut to get round, espeically with them being built and maintained by the same company (who are usually awesome at this sort of thing), but really, and it pains me to say this, they don’t integrate. You/me/everyone read the front page and assume it’s not [trying not to say the word ‘lie’ here]; and we expect it to be one thing and it’s not. I don’t say that to casue annoyance, i’m just tyring to manage expectations a little.

bbPress and WordPress are two separate systems which can be made to share login cookies.

Wasn’t bbPress born for this (and more)?

Nope.

bbPress was born for the sole purpose of running the wordPress support forums.

Cookie integration was a nice idea added sometime around 0.8 (as i recall), was awesome for 5 weeks with 0.9 before a wordpress update broke it. Automattic got round to fixing it some 14 months later.

bbPress playing nice with wordpress is a nice hook on the front page, it is not now, nor shall be, it’s purpose. (hence Matt telling people to not use the software, and that he’s scrapping it to become a wordPress plugin instead).

Not to mention that the code you suggested does not handle login errors…

Yeah it does. Login errors are always handled on the login page. (wp-login.php and bb-login.php). All we’ve built is a form that points to those pages.

If you login successfully you’ll be redirected back to your page, if not you’ll hit the original/default login page with the error.

if you’re looking to recreate the wp-login/bb-login page on every/all pages with all the functionality that entails, then you’ve a much bigger job on your hands, and if i’m honest, i’d head to the wordpress forums for some help there (in my experience wordpress is fussy about wp-login being used).

[Xevo]

Already got it working, did something wrong while installing bbpress back then.

[Kevin Muldoon]

I’ve integrated with 3.0 and 2.92 so it does work.

Just to check: you did change bb-config-sample.php to bb-config.php didn’t you?

[pagal]

Dear buddies I want to correct you both..

the code was https://codex.wordpress.org/Function_Reference/is_user_logged_in

<?php

if ( is_user_logged_in() ) {

echo ‘Welcome, registered user!’;

} else {

echo ‘Welcome, visitor!’;

};

?>

and with this there is no need to call bb-load.php into wp…

Now I’ve replaced kevinjohngallagher’s html form with, Welcome, visitor!.. and its working fine now..

but the problem is the after login I want to display the register user’s name and his profile and log out link..suppose

Edit My profile | Admin | Log out wanna replace with “Welcome, registered user!”

but I’m not able to execute the php code to display the logged in user name into echo ‘php code’;

is there any solution?

Thanks