[Keikabile Lesego]

Hello, Stephen.  Looking at the were things are, accoding to my little experience since i  started using wordpress, I know the is no how wp-login.php page can look this way without editing the core css Because wp-login.php file is not located in a child theme root so its a lil difficult, to call css style from a child theme that will edit the apparence of page that is not in the child theme… Unless The web-owner used a plugin to replace the core, still as i mentioned above it looks the same as other pages because there is no page header, though it was made to suit the site appearance… What if you want to call the header, for those who have a different websites with a header.  Maybe i dont know something does removing a link that you dont want or any code in wp-login.php called hacking core? If it is then there was core hacking on the link you just shared. In royaltweet.com i just called the header,  edited css style and removed the links that i didnt like, eg login title and everything became great.

[bbuser12345]

Fair enough. If I have to pay someone more than $20 to use the provided migration wizard I will. (FWIW, on oDesk people are free to bid whatever they are willing to bid to do the project.) I have been trying this conversion on and off myself for about 6 months, I’d pay $100 if someone who knew what they were doing would help me out. (Why it would take anything like 20-40 hours for someone to figure out what I need to fill in on a web form in order to get the wizard to work is beyond me.)

This should be simple right? I have a BBpress standalone and I want to convert the database to be used by the plug-in. This is the simplest case. I know how to set everything up all I need to know is what set of magical things to put in the form fields to get the converter to actually work.

I know how to back up my database, and I use mySQL all the time in my daily work. I write programs for a living that access and analyze massive data bases. If I knew what needed to be done to the data base to make it work with the plug-in (that is what the wizard is doing under the hood) I could do the migration myself with an R script or something similar. However, there is no place where it is documented what needs to be done to convert the database.

The statement that: “Once you have the right tools and become relatively proficient, it’s actually pretty easy.” is tautological. However, it is the sentiment one gets when trying to follow the BBpress’ documentation: “If you already knew how to do this, here is how you would do this”.

Here are a few of the issues:

Half of the replies in the forums say to follow this plan:
https://codex.bbpress.org/import-forums/

The other replies say to use the plugin:
https://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/bbconverter/

Which is it? Why are there two different ways? Is one applicable to one situation and the other to another?

Of course neither will work for me (and many others apparently). The support page at http://bbconverter.com is dead and so there is no information there. The other page contains very sparse information about what one should put in the form fields.

***Here is the biggest issue. The console on the wizard does not give any information that would help you diagnose what step in the process has failed.

For example I just get:

==========================================
Please don’t forget to update your counters HERE

WordPress database error: [Table ‘databasebbpress.forums’ doesn’t exist]
SELECT convert(forums.forum_id USING “utf8”) AS forum_id,convert(forums.forum_parent USING “utf8”) AS forum_parent,convert(forums.forum_name USING “utf8”) AS forum_name,convert(forums.forum_slug USING “utf8”) AS forum_slug,convert(forums.forum_desc USING “utf8”) AS forum_desc,convert(forums.forum_order USING “utf8”) AS forum_order FROM forums AS forums LIMIT 0, 100

No forums to convert-
Not clearing default passwords-

Not Converting users Selected-

No data to clean-

Starting Conversion…

==============================

I am left to wonder, is the problem logging in to the server?
If so:
Is the problem the server name?
Is the problem my password?
Is the problem my username?

Is the problem connecting to the database?
If so:
Is the problem the database name?
Is the problem a permission?
Is the problem my password?
Is the problem my username?

I am just told that the database does not exist. Well it does, I can log-in using myPhp and there it is.

I will continue to search for “the right tools” and to become more “proficient”. In the meantime I will continue to try to find someone who know enough about the guts of BBpress and WordPress to tell me why my database that does exist, does not exist in the eyes of the converter.

[Stephen Edgar]

Take a look around at http://www.ratsclan.com, this site is just WordPress and bbPress and as far as I can tell nothing in the ‘core’ of either bbPress or WordPress has been hacked.

It is a pretty good showcase site showing what can be done without killing kittens…

[Keikabile Lesego]

Hello Shane, 3 Reasons Why Hacking the WordPress Core is a Very Bad Idea, its a pretty great aticle you shared there, ( actually i smiled when reading ” each time you attack core God kills a kitten”) but some of there reasons dont convience me why i shouldnt customise my site… I thought putting some css.style in andmin css, is the same as changing the color of my website in childtheme but since it seems like a very bad idea I will not argue and look for more reason why I shouldnt do that.

Innomarkglobal, i aggree that you can make your own custom login page and stay away from the core file as Shane says, but still your custom login doesn’t avoid your visitors from landing on the core login. For example if you click submit button on your custom login without feeling your login details it redirect to …/wp-login.php and it will not pop a message that you have not entered ditails, which i personally think is not a great idea… I am not sure yet if there is a way to make visitor stay in your custom login even if there is a login error, if there is i am sure it will consume time to make it.

My Personal Advice to this is “Do not edit anything unless you know what you are doing”. And note that you will loss your style every time you upgrade, if you edit core.

Thanks WordPress.
Regards Lesego Keikabile
Beautiful Day 🙂

[Stephen Edgar]

@radi_v Take a look at this https://github.com/nosecreek/Posts-to-bbPress

It is doing ‘Converts WordPress posts and comments to bbPress topics and replies.’

I haven’t looked closely at the code yet (possibility including this to the bbPress core ‘import tool’) though you may be able to tweak it to only do ‘comments’ to ‘replies’.

[John James Jacoby]

Not currently possible without a fair bit of hacking.

WordPress reserves the base for pages and blog posts, should you set your permalinks that way.

[Stephen Edgar]

– Backup your site and all your databases often during all these steps in case any step along the way you can revert back to a working site
– Upgrade your bbPress 1.1alpha to the final 1.1 release https://bbpress.org/download/legacy/ https://codex.bbpress.org/legacy/updating/
– Install bbPress 2.2x plugin to WordPress https://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/bbpress/
– Run the bbPress 2.x Tool ‘Import Forums’ to import your old forums https://codex.bbpress.org/import-forums/

[Stephen Edgar]

You wern’t using your wordpress.COM by any chance were you?

It should be the same as your user/pass for here at bbpress.org (Same as wordpress.org)

If no luck try resetting your password which might force everything to update for bbpress/wordpress.org sites.

[spwestwood]

Hi,

I’m upgrading my forum from a standalone installation to the newer wordpress plugin. The URL structure is a bit different:

Old bbPres (v1.03):
Main page: domain.com/forum
Forum pages: domain.com/forum/forum/{forum-name}
Subforum pages: domain.com/forum/forum/{forum-name}
Topic pages: domain.com/forum/topic/{topic-name}

New bbPress (v2.2.1)
Main page: domain.com/blog/forums
Forum page: domain.com/blog/forums/forum/{forum-name}
Sub-forum page: domain.com/blog/forums/forum/{parent-forum}/{forum-name}
Topic pages: domain.com/blog/forums/topic/{topic-name}

So the main issue I have is that the forum is now in the wordpress directory, whereas I’d rather it was outside. The other issue is that now sub-forums have the parent forum in the url.

I’d like to do two things:

-> Remove the /blog/ from the forums url
-> Redirect old sub-forums to the newer domains.

Does anyone know the htaccess/mod_rewrite to do this?

• This topic was modified 13 years, 7 months ago by spwestwood.

[metaphorcreations]

For some reason it won’t let me log in using my WordPress.org password. Is there some other way I need to signup/login?

[innomarkglobal]

Shane answer is right you should take a look before any modification.
https://codex.wordpress.org/Customizing_the_Login_Form#Make_a_Custom_Login_Page

[jakewho]

I deactivated all of my plugins and reactivated them one by one. It turns out that the conflicting plugin is Yoast WordPress SEO v1.2.8.7

http://yoast.com/wordpress/seo/#utm_source=wpadmin&utm_medium=plugin&utm_campaign=wpseoplugin

The SEO plugin is very important to my site. Is there a way to resolve this conflict?

Thanks much.

[Shane Gowland]

Hi Lesego,

As a general rule, we strongly advise users not to modify core WordPress/bbPress files under any circumstances. There are a whole host of issues you could be causing.

I recommend taking a look at “Customizing the Login Form -> Make a Custom Login Page”

 

[fuzzybee]

Once can check “Use the fancy WordPress editor to create and edit topics and replies”, yes.
However, the problem is such editor confuses people.
(I don’t suppose majority of my audience recognise, not to mention knowing how to use HTML)

1) “Visual” and “HTML” what the heck?
2) They don’t intuitively know that they need to switch to the “HTML” editor to insert images.

The editor used here is not fantastic but it is much better than the default WordPress one, for forums.

[Keikabile Lesego]

If you love your website you will do anything to make sure it looks more welcoming

I have been looking for a custom login for my website, searched everywhere… The only thing i got was the same login style page, with just only a logo changed, you just have to install the plugin and given an option to upload a logo. Then i figured how to make my login page something that i want. I took firebug edited css style.

I pasted all my custom css-style in a notepad and opened wp-admin.css and inserted the code. It take less than 10mins to do this, If you are looking for a custom login page do not look any further, just take you 5 to 10 mins and customise your login.

Take note: when you update you WordPress it will overwrite your edition, so for you not to loose you styles, after editing make a copy of wp-admin.css and save it in the same folder, you can do that by Zipping the file, that creates a zipped-copy. If you want to do this here is a bit of steps to help:

1. before anything just creat a copy of wp-admin.css and rename it, you can rename it wp-admin.css.Tempo, just for incase you mess up everything you can always restore…

Then OPEN public_html/example.com/wp-admin/css

You might loose hope, or your brain might hurt when you look at the code arrangement, trust me its pretty much easier to edit. Anywhere at the end of “}” create a space where you are going to insert your custom css code.
The code looks something like this:

1. | dashboard_browser_nag a{color:#fff}#dashboard_browser_nag.browser-insecure a.browse-happy-link,#dashboard_browser_nag.browser-insecure a.update-browser-link{text-shadow:#871b15 0 1px 0}#dashboard_browser_nag a.browse-happy-link,#dashboard_browser_nag a.update-browser-link{text-shadow:#d29a04 0 1px 0}

At the end of each “}” its the beginning of new style code, so by creating space it will be something like:

1. | dashboard_browser_nag a{color:#fff}#dashboard_browser_nag.browser-insecure a.browse- happy-link,#dashboard_browser_nag.browser-insecure a.update-browser-link{text-shadow:#871b15 0 1px 0}

—–>>[[[space here]]] then insert you codes here ( this is just to make you see what you are editing much better)

2. | #dashboard_browser_nag a.browse-happy-link,#dashboard_browser_nag a.update-browser-link{text-shadow:#d29a04 0 1px 0}

Your custom css style will overwrite the main css style, it might look a bit weird at first, just hold on.

2. Open wp-login.php , first make a copy of it just for incase…
Just after
1. “

”

Insert
1. php get_header()

Now your login should look like any of your pages.

Then remove this line:

1. |

<a href="” title=””>

Just after
2. |

You can now refresh your login page:

If you love your website you will do anything to make sure it looks more welcoming. I hope this helps, I am new to WordPress, just that i love testing things up.

Here is an example: [www.royaltweet.com/wp-login.php]

Regards
Lesego Keikabile
Have a beautifulDay 🙂

[Stephen Edgar]

I haven’t got a fix for you though hopefully @jjj can do some magic.

The issue relates to how your user profiles /users/admin/ are including ‘recent topics’ on that same page rather than the default bbPress /users/admin/topics/, thus if you go to /users/admin/topics/page/2/ everything is perfect.

In your custom template file user-details.php you have added lines 16-33 but this is causing bbPress to generate the pagination links for the current /user/admin/ URL.

I know I have found the problem, but a solution, nope, I’m stuck, my PHP skills are not quite there yet 😉

References: Changeset 4322 and /includes/topics/template-tags.php#242 bbp_is_single_user_topics pretty permalinks.

Your site is awesome to say the least and I see you have pimped it…

[Stephen Edgar]

Can you please create a new ticket in the bug tracker detailing your request please.

[andymacleod]

I’ve been working on a MMORPG guild site with 3 distinct levels of Membership with posting rights:
– guests/potential members who can post on PUBLIC forums
– full member who can post of the guild’s PRIVATE forums
– officer/moderators who can post of HIDDEN forums.

I chose to use WordPress and bbPress instead of a dedicated guild-hosting solution to make the site different from most other guild sites, taking advantage of WordPress’s theming and bbPress’s simplicity.

bbPress 2.2.1 only seem to expect only 2 levels of membership – there is no option to have a “guest/registered” user who can post on public forums. However, I did manage to create 3 levels of member by making a small change to a core file, found here:
bbpress\includes\core\capabilities.php

Go to where the Spectator role is defined (lines 134 to 169) and change them to have the same capabilities as for the participant role (lines 225-260). Then change line 146 ‘read_private_forums’ back to ‘false’.

The problem with this approach: Your “spectator” role is now no longer merely a spectator. And, of course, this amendment would be overwritten by updating bbPress. Alternatively, you could create another role here (would be good addition for bbPress 2.3) but you need to edit other parts of the file to do so…

Another issue: I wanted custom titles to appear on topic posts beside member’s avatars. To do this, I had to create new WordPress roles using Justin Tadlock’s Member plugin. I copied the WordPress default permissions for the “Subscriber” role and gave it the name “Guest”. I did the same for the “Member” role, and I copied the default Editor roles for the guild “Officer” role – because I wanted them to be able to edit pages and posts too.

The solution seems to work although it is not ideal… I thought I’d pass it on in case there were other people in a similar position who wanted more flexibility in terms of roles. Please, please, please could making it possible to change forum roles and titles a priority update for the next major update to bbPress.

Thanks,

Andy

[John James Jacoby]

You’ll have better luck looking into the existing templates, and copying existing functionality. Check in: templates/default/bbpress/content-archive-forum.php

https://bbpress.trac.wordpress.org/browser/trunk/templates/default/bbpress/content-archive-forum.php

[Michael]

Gotta agree with John James Jacoby, you’ve gotta expect to spend a decent amount of money to hire a contractor to do this kind of work. It’s not trivial, and was never meant to be (my opinion).  My guess is you’re looking at a decent project size of 20-40 hours minimum, unless the task is very basic.

To put it in perspective, I’ve put in about 20+ hours to customize my bbPress installation so that it matches my Wootheme. bbPress documentation could be better, but it’s not too difficult if you can do rudimentary CSS3 coding (or pick it up on the fly, as I have).  Now, getting Buddypress to integrate and play nice with my theme and Woocommerce site, on the other hand, has consumed a lot more time than bbPress integration has.

Best of luck, and don’t skimp on a good WordPress consultant.

Michael

[John James Jacoby]

@tzeldin88 – Again, difficult to be confident, but you could filter bbPress’s role mapping, to add custom comparisons for your newly created roles. Then bbPress will just naturally make:

X site role = Y forum role

with each new user that visits the site.

The filter you’d want to use, is bbp_get_user_role_map. It looks like this:

/**
 * Return a map of WordPress roles to bbPress roles. Used to automatically grant
 * appropriate bbPress roles to WordPress users that wouldn't already have a
 * role in the forums. Also guarantees WordPress admins get the Keymaster role.
 *
 * @since bbPress (r4334)
 *
 * @return array Filtered array of WordPress roles to bbPress roles
 */
function bbp_get_user_role_map() {

	// Get the default role once here
	$default_role = bbp_get_default_role();

	// Return filtered results, forcing admins to keymasters.
	return (array) apply_filters( 'bbp_get_user_role_map', array (
		'administrator' => bbp_get_keymaster_role(),
		'editor'        => $default_role,
		'author'        => $default_role,
		'contributor'   => $default_role,
		'subscriber'    => $default_role
	) );
}

[John James Jacoby]

@rossagrant – BuddyPress is a whole different animal. It assumes every user on your site always has a link to their root profile. If you have BuddyPress bolted on top, you’re probably okay.

What BuddyPress does *not* do yet, and likely won’t for some time, is separate multiple bbPress forums across multiple sites on a multisite network, and give them their own spot in a user profile.

I’ll end up building something similar to this for WordPress.org/BuddyPress.org/bbPress.org eventually, but until then, it’s only pseudo-code in my imagination.

[John James Jacoby]

A survey done earlier this year came up with $55 as the average hourly rate for WordPress consultants, worldwide. Considering that’s the median, and the time it will take to start, monitor, and audit a data migration, my guess as to why you’re not having much luck is because $20 is too low of a bid for taking on the responsibility.

bbPress does make this process pretty simple, considering the labor it does under the hood. If you’re already experiencing issues, it’s likely going to take more than .5 hours to complete. Anything beyond 30 minutes, and it’s time better spent on a different job.

I say all of this, only to be helpful and informative, to help y’all make better educated bids if you’re wanting to pay someone for their time. If you want to keep trying this yourself, become familiar with how to backup and restore your data. Once you have the right tools and become relatively proficient, it’s actually pretty easy.

Good luck getting everything moved over. Let us know if you have questions, should you dive in again.

[John James Jacoby]

@rossagrant – You are correct. The downside to only being a “Member” and not having a role on the site, is bbPress suppresses profile pages for those users. This is mostly because of WordPress Multisite, to prevent guessing user profile slugs and pulling up profiles of users that don’t actually exist on the site, and also to not link off to spam/deleted user accounts.

Lots of moving parts.

Naturally, if you *need* to override any of these weird nuances, there are filters everywhere for developers to make modifications to these behaviors. Ideally, bbPress comes with the solutions that are best for everyone, and the other answers come when specific questions like this are asked.

If this turns out to not be the best configuration, we can always change it, but I suspect it’s the best compromise that’s currently possible.

[John James Jacoby]

@tzeldin88 – There’s a tool to batch the user forum role process, in Tools > Forums

It’s likely the custom roles you’re making won’t work, at least I haven’t tried it yet myself. While it’s not impossible to make work, I don’t think it’s a great setup for the future of your site.

WordPress purposely excludes a UI for roles and capabilities because they’re easy to muck up, and difficult to reset back to stock.