[kevinjohngallagher]

Back from my holidays and hopefully ramping up some bbPress dev in the next week or so, and this looks like a nice thread to come back to

The thing that I think a few folks have missed out on, is that the biggest changes from bbPress 0.9 to bbPress 1.0 is that alot of the core functions of the backend were unified into BackPress. While this added bloat to be sure, it basically gave us a unified platform on which ‘all’ of the automattic software solutions would be based. Except… none of the others moved to BackPress.

So we don’t have any (to the best of my knowledge) WordPress functions in bbPress, but also with “deep integration” we’re loading multiple classes and functions that effectively do the same thing. With deep integration we duplicate all of the base calls and functions every time we load a page.

BuddyPress got round this by ripping out all of the backpress stuff, and making the bbPress functions call the WordPress functions. BuddyPress’ forum is based on bbPress, its isn’t bbPress. This is where Sam kind of got the short end of the stick. Had WordPress moved to BackPress (instead of porting WP changes into BackPress) then all of the Automattic software solutions would be on the same base platform, and integration between them all would be a doddle. It also would have meant that bbPress could be both a stand alone AND a plugin, as it would effectively be a large “module” on top of BackPress functions.

The realsim is, that without any form of Project Management (and i know that phrase is where people start to hate me) or cohersion between the Automattic projects or developers and contributors, we’re effectively going to go in circles here.

Today marks the 3rd Month with no blog post or communication (other than the infamous “I just want to quit the whole project” statement from Matt). As much as that is disheartening, its not a shock. Matt (the person) and Matt (the developer) and those he works with on these projects have their hands full right now; and from what I’ve seen Chris has continued to steady the ship in a wonderful fashion… but make no mistake we’re drifting aimlessly in the current direction. Lets just keep the ship afloat, try and fix some bugs, and we’ll see what happens when we’re closer to a release.

Hope you’re all having a wonderful afternoon.

[Kevin Muldoon]

Craig.

I went through the exact same thing a few days ago and was getting the same error as you initially. As well as removing the tables you need to remove the plugin. You all need to remove the templates you added to merge buddypress from wordpress. It’s one of these templates which causes the not found error as the template is looking for buddypress in the plugins directory.

Remove the buddypress tables via phpmyadmin, deactivate the plugin (and delete it if you wish) and then delete all the templates you uploaded. You should be fine after that.

[Gautam Gupta]

THIS IS IMPORTANT POST, WHICH EVERYONE SHOULD READ:

For the time being, according to the plan laid down by Matt (which was weeks ago), bbPress will continue to be a standalone till some 1.2 version and then change into a plugin.

Now there are 2 things for you to consider:

1. Start your own project and if you start, then there will be 2 things:

   1. Either your project would get more attention if development doesn’t start here
   3. Or your project and hard work would go into vain if the development starts here/or you still don’t get popularity. So you might consider point 2.

2. Wait for the development to start (which would only happen when Matt pays attention to it, maybe after WP 3.0?). You might now want to start your own development, then see point 1.

I know that you might be confused, but I am also confused as much as you’re, thinking should I keep developing plugins for bbPress or not (nor any donations have come in the recent days). I’ll probably start developing plugins for BuddyPress/WordPress and be active on projects like After the Deadline/GlotPress.

I personally think that Matt is not considered about this project because (I might be wrong):

1. See his reply here – https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/whats-happening-with-bbpress/page/5#post-64425 (which was his last post on this forum).
2. I mailed him to let me take on the development and he said to be just active on trac, maybe he has some other plans down the line?

Right now, chrishajer is committing patches to the trunk (as he has the svn access) and IMO, trunk is more stable than 1.0.2.

Another thing is that half the people want it to be a plugin and half want it to be a standalone. Thus, I posted this method – https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/bbpress-as-a-wordpress-plugin-thoughts#post-64476, and it is how BuddyPress integrates bbPress forums into WP/BP install. This way it will remain a standalone for those who want it to be simple, light, fast etc. and plugin for those who want deep integration, ease of install etc. The problem that arises here is the plugin and theme repo, anyone has a solution to that? Maybe here’s one – https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/bbpress-as-a-wordpress-plugin-thoughts#post-64737

[zaerl]

bbPress _must_ not become a WordPress plugin. First of all because a BBS isn’t always associated with a blog and in my case this never happens. bbPress gain the attentions of a lot of people tired of bloatware engine like phpBB or slow engine like vBullettin. I switched to bbPress on all my sites for these reason.

Seconded a lot of people (as far as I know) chose bbPress because they can access to a WordPress style plugin system. If you have ever written a plugin for WordPress you can edit a bbPress one easily in order to accommodate your needs. But if bbPress will be a plugin of WordPress you will download a plugin… of a plugin? This is kind of confusing IMHO. Obviously I’m not talking about PHP programmers or in general skilled people but of regular users.

Third I think that the bbPress project deserve its own space. It is a too well done piece of code and for being a mere WordPress plugin.

[Kevin Muldoon]

Hey all,

For years I’ve used vBulletin for discussion forums. However, I have recently began to use bbPress for support forums on WordPress powered sites.

There are a lot of good tutorials on bbPress integration however some of the articles don’t go into that much detail in some areas so I decided to write my own tutorial on the matter.

It’s difficult to cover everything, but I have tried to note some of the most common problems which arise when integrating bbPress and WordPress. If you are unsure about anything please let me know

http://www.wpmods.com/integrate-wordpress-bbpress

Thanks,

Kevin

[gerikg]

It hasn’t happened yet (a completed plugin) and with no developers, or developers on other projects, I don’t think it will happen anytime this year. I’ll bet on it. Either way, I read a lot of “let’s do this and let’s do that” but no action. I don’t think any of us can demand anything. We aren’t paying anyone anything. I doubt anyone donates either. We can request it, we can be annoying about it, but the choice is not ours. If you haven’t noticed the more annoying people get, the less developers we have. We can start a movement away from bbP once it’s a plugin but it hasn’t happened. This is premature complaining because it hasn’t happened.

We should focus on four things

1 Getting the current plugins to have admin menus for non-php editors.

2 More Plugins

3 More themes (the reason I picked wordpress over drupal)

4 Documentations. It will be easier for people to code once the basic map is mapped out instead of everyone starting from ground zero. https://bbpress.org/documentation/

[johnhiler]

If you’re serious about keeping bbPress as standalone software, you’re in luck: that’s exactly what bbPress is doing for the next version or two. No need to fork just yet: just get more involved with bbPress.

bbPress will probably start to begin the slow process of becoming a WordPress plugin later this year or maybe next year… at which point, you’ll be better acquainted with the software and in a better position to consider a fork!

[robalan]

Already tried that tut, but trying it again isn’t getting me anywhere either—I’m getting stuck at “Step 2 check the boxes Add integration settings, Add cookie integration settings, and User integration database settings.”

I do this, follow the next steps, and it ends up telling me: http://cl.ly/Hm1

The only user db settings I’ve touched: http://cl.ly/GLo because my WordPress user table doesn’t have a prefix.

[robalan]

I can’t get this to work AT ALL. I’ve gone through every forum post I could find, changed every setting back and forth, re-installed twice, still I don’t see any of my WordPress users in bbPress, and as for the cookies issue, I’m about to bash my head in.

WordPress Version 2.9.2

bbPress Version 1.0.2

Someone please help—let me know what other information would make it easy for you. Thanks.

[Darfuria]

I thought the plugin version was already underway, hence https://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/bbpress/

[Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)]

I will keep bbPress alive as standalone version. I have taken this task as a major project of my Bachelors degree.

@Gautam

Its better to have a standalone version for those who just needs to run a forum.

Those who want a better integration with WordPress, can go for the plugin version but I will myself prefer to use the standalone version at times.

[gerikg]

Thanks, they won’t allow me to post their site. I always thought it was the bbpress plugin but wordpress too I didn’t think of.

[psycheangels]

i agree with jurasiks, bbpress should not be a wordpress plugin.

im thinking that future bbpress can be a new style of forum engine

in my head now i am think about “micro forum”

[jurasiks]

bbPress inside WordPress will be slow and heavy.

i liked bbPress for performance and simplicity

imho, wp goes to wrong “all-in-one-combine” future, but this is developers decision

i would like to make future with “NewEngine”

so, who wants to help – please write here

who not – please, ignore

p.s. i will leave this idea if i can install next bbPress versions without WP

p.p.s but i can’t?

[Cristian]

I am personally pretty excited about the bbPress plugin for WordPress. As someone has already mentioned there is already a number of other good standalone forum software out there that you could use and there is no reason that bbPress could carry on as a standalone forum as well as being a WordPress canonical plugin.

I have four sites built with WordPress and I have been wanting to add bbPress to each site for some time but the integration between the two has always put me off.

Anyone got any idea when the first version of the bbPress plugin will be out?

[Anonymous User]

Hi gerikg,

can you post a link to your forum? Evtl. we can test it together.

On my forum i have at first also a blank page – there it was a problem with two plugins (one in bbPress, one in WordPress).

Markus

[Terence Milbourn]

@psycheangels – thanks very much for the information. I eventually found my way to noease’s beautiful iNOVE WordPress theme at http://www.neoease.com/themes/ and the iNOVE look-alike BBPress template from Eric Barnes’s at http://ericlbarnes.com/projects/inove-for-bbpress/. I also found a really excellent suite of programs developed around the Carrington theme, with templates for WP, bbPress and mobile too. Really excellent all of them. But you know what, I still would prefer a plugin that allowed me to integrate and run bbPress in my own developed Thesis WP theme. That would be my choice in a perfect world.

[chrishajer]

No, that does not make it impossible. It’s completely unrelated. Start a new topic with your issue and give as much detail as possible.

[zaerl]

bbPress isn’t a WordPress plugin.

[oli_75]

Hello,

I just uploaded the latest version of bbpress. When I click on install I receive a message “no valid header for plugin (Das Plugin hat keinen validen Header.”).

I am running WordPress 2.9.2 installed at hosteurope.

What am I doing wrong?

Maybe someone can give me an idea what’s going wrong here.

Thanks,

Oliver

[royshearer]

Does having separate WordPress and BBpress databases make calling a WP header from a BB page impossible?

[Anonymous User]

Oh … so stupid…!

in WordPress my German language file is named de_DE.mo in bbPress the language file is named de.mo. After the deep integration bbPress seems to search for a file named de_DE.mo in ‘my-languages’.

So just renaming the language files made my day

Markus

PS. hmpf…

[Anonymous User]

Hi gerikg,

i saw your post about your problems with the integration of the BuddyBar in bbPress – (http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/buddypress-default-theme-for-bbpress). I found it after a short research in Google – because I’ve the same problems yesterday.

Warning: call_user_func_array() [function.call-user-func-array]: First argument is expected to be a valid callback, 'bp_core_admin_bar_css' was given in /homepages/0/00/htdocs/wpbpbbp/wordpress/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 339

Warning: call_user_func_array() [function.call-user-func-array]: First argument is expected to be a valid call

But … I think I have an “hack” for you – I changed a few lines of code in my installation and now it seems to work.

These was “myWay”:

1. Deep Integration between WordPress and bbPress

2. Plugins on bbPress: buddybar-in-bbpress

3. Edit bp_buddybar.php – I only comment out the following lines

/* add_action( 'bb_head', 'bp_core_admin_bar_css', 1 );

add_action( 'bb_head', 'bp_core_add_js', 1 );

add_action( 'bb_admin_head', 'bp_core_admin_bar_css', 1 );

add_action( 'bb_admin_head', 'bp_core_add_js', 1); */

4. Edit bp-core-adminbar.php

Here I’ve a error code because auf “$wpdb” – so I commet out:

/* $blog_prefix = $wpdb->get_blog_prefix( $current_blog->id );*/

5. header.php in my theme

I put the Stylesheet-Link to my header.php file.

<link rel=”stylesheet” href=”http://www.mysteria3000.de/wp/wp-content/plugins/buddypress/bp-themes/bp-default/_inc/css/adminbar.css&#8221; type=”text/css” />

…

No the best solution – but it works for me.

Greetings

Markus

[bb-lover]

Thank you all,

Its nice to listen that lot of friends need lot of plugins. But I’ve not lot of money to develop these plugins, developers need money to work on. From my budget I’m starting to develop 5 plugins from my developers. Which I’ve decided after lot of thinking.

I need your comments…. so that should I start work on these plugins?

No. 1 :- Social Connect

With this plugin; users can register to your forums via their some social networking accounts like Facebook, OpenID, Twitter, Myspace etc. My developers says its not possible to fetch email id of a user who will register from fb or like other social networking sites, but it will be possible to show the link of a register user in his profile. where we can trace a user that from where he/she came.

No. 2 :- Better Moderation Suite ( Remake)

There are some issues with this old plugin. we will fix it soon and add more fields in it. second we will add two more section in this plugin. these are about moderators

a) simple moderator,

if anyone is running one board ( one bbpress ) then he/she can assign a user as simple moderator for his/her work.

b) Super Moderator,

if any one is running more then one bbpress installation suppose

http://www.example.com/forums-01 ( one bbpress about hockey discussion )

http://www.example.com/forums-02 ( one bbpress about football discussion )

http://www.example.com/forums-03 ( one bbpress about dance discussion )

http://www.example.com/forums-so-on ( one bbpress about other discussion )

then super moderator can handle these 4 fourms ( 4 integrated bbpress ) from one panel.

its means . a simple moderator can handle just http://www.example.com/forums-01 ( one bbpress about hockey discussion )

and super moderator can handle other 4 or more forums discussion.

there are more functions will be add in this plugin which i don’t want to disclose right now . Because I need your thoughts that what should add more functionality in this plugin.

No. 3 :- BBMI ( BBpress Multiple Integration)

Integration of One wordpress with multple bbpress

Read again my second plugin. Then you’ll understand the requirement of this plugin called BBMI.

Its not possible right now to create multiple forums like Worpdress MU, but if someone want more then one forums ( bbpress installation ) for more topics then its not possible to integration these multiple forums with one WordPress and each other.

Because if you’ll successful in integrate more forums ( shared user table, and user meta plus shared database… which not a big deal) then you’ll definitely fail in the integrate of cookies.

“Because now integration is possible just for one bbpress and one wordpress”

Not for multiple bbpress with one wordpress. ( Think about it, isn’t cool? )

Note: some settings and plugin will involve to run this idea. and i also need your ideas.

No. 4 :- Link Protection

About this plugins, if register user paste a link to your forums via (post or topic). Then the guest cannot view this link till after the completion of his/her registration to your forums.

No. 5 :- BBpress Statistics

If you’ll see the _ck_ plugin

https://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/mini-stats/

its all about bbpress statistics it not tells about tracking report about users online, where they came from, what keywords they use to find your website, what referral sites they use, first visit, last visit, traffic detail, monthly weekly report, duration of user’s stay on ur site blah blah blah, but my plugin will be a comprehensive plugin for your site to track traffic reports.

these are five plugins. now i’m starting work on them. All will go from my own pocket which is a really big amount, but if someone is interested to make a donation to me and wanna support me ( if he like my idea and plugins ) then I’ll post my contact detail in my next post.

After that I want to make more plugins if I’ll get your support and positive feedback.

See you again, same place, same post but soon some other time

Stay Connect………………

Regards,

bb-lover

[Anonymous User]

Great Examples … I think these examples would be great in the documentation for bbPress.