[kevinjohngallagher]

When I overwrite something, especially in bbPress, I ususally clear that was there before hand.

#front-page #hottags {

background: none;

border: none;

background-color: red;

border: 1px solid blue;

}

That way you don’t need to worry about things that are not implemented in all browsers. The more I work with charities and the more I test on different combinations of OS/Browsers and even mobile platforms, the more I code my CSS like it’s 2000 again. Amazing how it all still works and looks the same.

[kevinjohngallagher]

Hi Taeo!

Thanks for the link, but I feel that you’re way off base.

For those who can’t skip it, here’s the WPtavern recap:

http://www.wptavern.com/mattnote-from-wordcamp-san-francisco

[Matt] even admitted that right now, it would be better off to use another plugin rather than bbPress.

Can anyone explain to me how it was helpful of Matt to do that?

He’s not managing expectations, he’s merely degrading the work people are doing. Note, Matt’s not done this with ANY of his other projects on the go.

The bbPress community was a bit rough around the edges and the flame war that ensued forced Matt to break away for a bit.

First, I think this is quite insulting, but that aside, if Matt thought we were rough around the edges, why has there only been 1 moderator on the forums since July last year?

Anyway, I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. This is total and utter bull***. Matt is an awesome bloke, great on so many levels, but have a read at the “FLAME WAR” (haha). It’s here:

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/whats-happening-with-bbpress/page/5

Have you ever seen a nicer and more polite flame war in your life? In fact, don’t you feel (apart from 1 idiot) that this is a crazily civilised conversation??

Honestly, I think it’s a very fascinating read. Especially given that the main posters (the people who posted twice in reply to Matt’s posts) are the current Main Developer and the ONLY Moderator. And in my eyes, that’s the problem.

Matt realised that no-one agreed with him, he wasn’t weighing up arguements and helping solve a problem, he arranged weekly dev meets and IRC chats and disappeared without telling anyone for 4 weeks and came back with sweeping changes and wasn’t happy when people called him out on it.

I like to point this out every now and then:

http://ma.tt/2009/08/kill-your-community/

It’s written by some clever fellow who cares about communities on the internet and knows a thing or two about building great ones around open source software.

• Don’t Moderate.

  Make sure you only have 1 moderator on the forums. Make sure that everyone else with moderator or above status doesn’t visit the forums for a minimum of 6 months.

• Allow Spam Through.

  And make sure that a lot of legitamate posts are caught instead. Only have 1 moderator so that it can go days before real posts are displayed

• Don’t Participate in Comments.

  Less than 20 posts in 7 years? Matt.

  Less than 5 posts in the last 18 months? Trent

  Less than 5 posts in the last year? mdawaffe

  Sam. Would anyone say that Sam was a participant in these forums while he was the lead dev?

• Design Like NASCAR.

  Design’s a tricky/subjective thing. It is/was disappointing to rollout this theme with 30% of the pages not themed, and not tested on the fonts specified making the quite inreadable.

• Abandon Search Engines

  Anyone tried searching on bbPress?

• No Subscriptions

  Email subscriptions plugin was working with bbPress0.9 (and 0.8.3 as I recall, though I might be wrong). Either way, thats over 2 years folks.

• Make People Click Click Click.

  Have you ever tried to moderate your bbPress users?

  Don’t worry, Anonymous Posting is coming instead. WE’ve only had that as a plugin for 2.5 years. But you moderating your forum? Puh-lease. just you clicky click click.

• Treat Everyone the Same.

  1 moderator. Everyone else, regardless of what they do for the project is the same.

• Don’t Ask Anything of Your Audience.

  In fairness both Matt and Sam have had 1 poll each.

  They just abandoned the poll’s voting and reversed decisions at a later date – making the poll useless (actually, it’s kind of worse, it means they asked then ignored us).

I really detest forum posts that attack people personally. I often wonder/worry if my phrasing makes people feel like i’m having a go, when really I don’t mean to. This isn’t about Matt the person – he’s very cool, and I’ve alot of time and respect for him.

This is about the person at the top of the tree making decisions that someone else already pointed out to be a mistake. Those decisions/mistakes result in actions that “kill your community”. It just so happens that both of these people are Matt

[garrik]

Thanks…your response was 6 minutes ago and I had already done all my back ups so I upgraded.

Now using WordPress 3.0 and BBPress 1.02 and so far, no detectable problems. Nothing wrong with that.

[Rootside]

Correct. Just changing your selector above from #hottags to #front-page #hottags should be enough, it should override the rule in the imported stylesheet:

#front-page #hottags { background: #DFDFDF; border: 1px solid #888; }

Try the following if the above (unexpectedly) doesn’t work:

#front-page #hottags { background-color: #DFDFDF !important; border: 1px solid #888; }

[ts230]

Is it possible to change the background color of the Hot Tags box? I tried doing

#hottags {

background: #DFDFDF;

border: 1px solid #888;

}

and the border appeared, but the background doesn’t change at all. The site is at http://theocas.net/forum/

Thanks for helping me!

[Rootside]

Haha, you absolute star. It works, I just installed and tested it. Thank you so much.

Btw, I think it’s missing the closing ?> declaration

Looks like something stupid is going on, doesn’t it. Do we know why this is happening? My PHP knowledge is just good enough to vaguely tell what’s doing what, but I never understand the bigger picture.

[dmb06208]

Well you kinda beat around my question bush. I was basically asking if official development WAS GOING TO CONTINUE or not. Not much has changed with bbpress in the past year other than the plug-ins released by the public. The moral around here is not the best right now. Ive done some reading. I know its open source. You guys should group together and just fork it right now and say good bye to the head aches. I want to put my time and effort into bbpress, and hope it doesn’t go the way of a dead forum system in two years.

[kevinjohngallagher]

When you say it does not work mate, can you tell us what it does instead?

It might be a quick fix

[pagal]

Hmmmmm now I think just johnhiler can solve this Issue because he did it…

This topic will remain open till then johnhiler’s active response and I’ll wait for him

[Rootside]

Wait a minute:

Looks like it might be deep integration that’s causing the problem:

https://bbpress.org/documentation/integration-with-wordpress/ recommends adding require_once(dirname(__FILE__) . '/path/to/wp-load.php'); to bb-config.php.

I just added that (using the correct path) to my working installation, and I’m getting the ’email is required’ behaviour again. Delete it, and registration works.

I’m not sure if that means deep integration doesn’t work at all with WP3.0…?

[zaerl]

I don’t think that such a plugin will be useful for a wide audience so I will not build it (it’s also quite annoying to make.) When I make something boring for a single person it’s called job and I’m here just for fun

[pagal]

I’m sorry to tell you people that..its working on localhost correctly but not on live… depressed again…topic still not resolved

[pagal]

@kevinjohngallagher thanks to tease me.. I’m well aware about your attitude..

I’m not a web programmer who can write code…If I able to write code then why I wrote on bbpress? If I bumped my post then you’ve any problem mate?

And I’m really afraid to tell you that …the links you’ve mentioned still not solved…It worked on localhost but not in live…

So I’ll make another post about it and then tell you that, is it good to say people on forums to write their own codes… really bad

[kevinjohngallagher]

I was merely offering a solution. You don’t have to take it.

I actually install WordPress with almost every bbPress forum, even if it’s not needed. I don’t use Deep Integration so there is no overhead. All I do is point my bbPress forum action towards the WordPress page, and it redirects people back to bbPress, without ever seeing WordPress.

Again, it’s merely a solution. It’s not one that you have to take.

but I still need it

Then write it yourself mate

You did already get annoyed and bumped your own post when no-one had replied in under 4 hours. If you need it that desperately, then you should write it yourself

Otherwise, we’re jsut trying to help.

…think beyond

… answering your questions next time? you got it, i’ll think beyond

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EDIT:

Pagal didn’t we actually go over this 4 weeks ago?

Look, what we have here:

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/wordpress-registration-and-login-via-bbpress

Started by Pagal 4 weeks ago.

Which was solved at :

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/using-login_form-from-bbpress-on-a-wordpress-site

[pagal]

@kevinjohngallagher but I still need it… no need of plugin but code..

if you force all your members to kick off toward wordpress then its your choice not mine and not other members…think beyond

[kevinjohngallagher]

No CSS identifier on it.

No way, that I can see of adding a CSS identifier on it.

The issue with that function, and alot of bbP stuff, is that the output is hardcoded HTML from the core.

With this type of link it’s not really a big deal, but it’s symptomatic of asking the core for one thing (the actual URL) and getting something else in return (a HREF string with text added).

[kevinjohngallagher]

Generic plugins are actually quite good for this, at least the WordPress one is quite ideal. I generally force all my members to register and login via WordPress and that gives me way more options in terms of Plugins and Database

[kevinjohngallagher]

should I waste my time and effort in this forum software

You should never waste your time on anything.

Is it going to stay alive and healthy?

It’s open source software.

It can be anything you want it to be. If at any time it’s not what you want, you can change it

Cos, respectfully, none of us can see into the future.

[pagal]

@ Rich Pedley…

I’m waiting for zaerl’s answer…I think he must have smart solution

[kevinjohngallagher]

Yeah, bbPress doesn’t actually have any parent child functionality, so this isn’t really possible. You could write some custom code to keep a counter somewhere, but it’s more than a pain really.

I’m workingon a plugin that deals with this, but it uses part of the bbProgress framework, and there are some issues to work around before separating it entirely.

[master5o1]

http://tartarus.co.nz/community/topic/welcome

Just look at this post and you will see what I mean. Not sure what’s the problem here. Wasn’t like this on my test server but since it’s gone live this has been the major problem

Quick help is desired.

[Rich Pedley]

It possibly isn’t the sort of thing that a generic plugin is best for. Far better to code for the exact requirements.

Form Builder type plugins are difficult to code, and cover the multittude of things that people may want.

So you may be better off employing someone to code what you are after.

[pagal]

But it can be easily achieved.

Then what you waiting for…bbPress need this plugin..it will be great

contribution.

But I think someone achieved it without any plugin…

see this

http://boards.weddingbee.com/register.php

If you have no time for making this kind of plugin right now….then can you please tell me the code which he use?

Thanks zaerl

[zaerl]

Ok. Keep in mind that building your own URL in that way isn’t a good idea. This:

profile_tab_link(bb_get_current_user_info('id'), 'edit');

hide all the weidness you see in the pastebin (which is actually the code of profile_tab_link with the domain name stripped away. That template function call bb_uri that takes in consideration all the settings specified in the admin panel.

Is there a valid reason for building your own URL? I can’t find one.

[driz]

@zaerl

Just making sure you were aware that the code posted above was what I needed. Thanks.