[kevinjohngallagher]

Eliminating the freshness column is easily done by the method Chris highlights, but it probably won’t have the affect you desire.

Content is king on the web, regardless of when it was written

Anyway, i piped up because you’ve an error in your CSS. In style.css on line 62 you have the following code:

#wrapper {

background:url("images/page_header_tile.png") no-repeat scroll 0 0 #FFFFFF;

}

you’ll want to change that to

#wrapper {

background:url("images/page_header_tile.png") no-repeat scroll center top #FFFFFF;

}

As currently the background image stays the same place while the forums are centered. Basically it looks broken on a bigger monitor, and it’s a quick fix

Good luck with your forum!

[zaerl]

Not the access log (access_log), the error log (error_log).

[Marius-]

I think Matt sounded very smart. Like a young Steve Jobs.

If what he say is true about BBpress just copying a bunch of wordpress code, making it hard to update, I think a plugin sounds greater.

I dont see why this future plugins should be incompitable with my current installation though.

As a user, I expect a future edition to carry on what I have now built.

Themes is okay to renew, but my forum posts and users, I would very much like to keep.

[Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)]

Woah! That would be a lot of work.

I tried this on my host and it seems that the problem is to do with WordPress 3.0 only cuz if I tell it to load wp-load.php from a 2.9.2 install, it works fine.

But I have seen someone in some other topic running a deep integration with WP 3.0

@zaerl

117.196.240.192 - - [19/Jun/2010:02:53:39 -0700] "GET /forum/ HTTP/1.1" 500 - "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.3) Gecko/20100423 Ubuntu/10.04 (lucid) Firefox/3.6.3"

[_ck_]

500 error might be from a looping redirect that never resolves.

At this point if I was debugging it, I would put exit points in the code and find out exactly where it was failing. But it might take you hours to trace it that way.

3.0 is so new and probably buggy, there could be a dozen reasons why it’s failing.

[_ck_]

This is just a complete guess in the dark but WP 3.0 is a memory hog and you might easily be running out of memory with deep integration. In theory you should get an error about the memory problem but maybe not.

Try this in your config (probably wp-config.php and not bb-config)

ini_set('memory_limit','64M');

define('WP_MEMORY_LIMIT', '64M');

also turn on all errors temporarily

error_reporting(E_ALL);

and make sure you try “view source” on that blank screen as there may be something you can’t see on the page.

[Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)]

I am deep integrating bbPress with WordPress 3.0 and I am encountering this white screen of death. I have done several integrations this way and never got stuck.

I use this code above database constants in bb-config.php

if ( !defined('ABSPATH') & !defined('XMLRPC_REQUEST')) {

define('WP_USE_THEMES', false);

include_once(dirname(__FILE__) . '/../wp-load.php' );

header("HTTP/1.1 200 OK");

header("Status: 200 All rosy");

}

I checked the logs and there are no 500 errors, all are 200.

I loaded the WordPress in a separate php file which works fine, so I guess something is conflicting in between WordPress and bbPress.

bbPress has no plugins installed but WordPress does have some and its a live site.

I am going to check for any conflicting plugins.

Any pointers?

[NikonRumors]

Has anyone tried to install VigLink (http://www.viglink.com) affiliate program in bbpress?

Where should I insert the script? The instructions are:

This code should be inserted at the very end of your pages, just before the [/body] tag.

The code needs to be present on every page where you’d like VigLink to work. The best way to install this code everywhere is to add it to your site’s template.

Thanks!

[wtfmatt]

@_ck_, okay. I’ll fork if you fork. Seriously. You have the power to get 50 of us following after you, and I know at least 2 big coders who would probably follow. I’m a nobody, please remember.

@mr_pelle, EXACTLY.

@zaerl, sounds like you support a FORK too?

SCREW TRAC. SCREW IRC LOGS.

And screw trying to heal bbpress’ relationship with Matt, it will never happen guys. WAKE UP. The man-child has too much pride to apologize and fix this mess. He will let it die on purpose, or suddenly delete this whole site and turn bbpress into a plugin of WP and remove all access to the old bbpress code and repositories if we let this crap continue.

We need to mirror this entire domain’s code and plugins onto another server before its too late.

Even if we wanted to harass Matt into giving us answers, he still wouldn’t do it. Seriously if bbpress is going to survive as a forum software, we need to FORK IT NOW.

[WimTibackx]

I think that with the new 3.0 Custom Post Type functionality, a lot could be done to simplify the current WordPress as blog vs. WordPress as CMS vs. Buddypress vs. bbPress clutter. It seems to me that there is no good way of combining them all at this very moment. In wordpress you can’t change nor delete the default post types. If you want bbPress you need to link it up and such. I think it would be better if the current project group evolved into (but who am I in the community ^^):

*BackPress, which contains the whole base (a lot of things it doesn’t contain atm from WordPress)

*Wordpress, which could just be no more then a plugin to BackPress (on the download page you should have the option to either download the plugin or backpress+plugin)

*bbPress, (see wordpress)

*BuddyPress, (see wordpress)

This way, wordpress can evolve in a stable, clear and usefull cms. This way, development teams could be handled much more flexible (a team for backpress, and teams for the other projects only having to worry about the plugin).

This would make it more clear for users and certain wanted features could be implemented much quicker. There should be, however, the functionality of having “plugins on plugins”, thus, plugins on wordpress, …

Also, this way of working would permit developers to use the backpress/wordpress codebase without having the mess of the current post types. It would also ease combining these projects a lot.

Last but not least, it would give the teams the oppertunity to clean up codebases (raise spec to php 5, more object oriented way of handling things, …)

What do you guys think about it?

As a final note, I’d like to say the following to the developing teams : work with the community, not against.

Edit : And if there would be interested in starting such an initiative from the community, as automattic isn’t likely to do this, I’d be willing to help developing. If I’d had more time, I’d probably already started something like this, but I haven’t got the time to lead such a big thing.

[ckeck]

Long live bbPress — can’t the community just fork this project? I’d be more than happy to donate $ to this cause in lack of my development skills. I just want to see some MOVEMENT

[WimTibackx]

Thanks!

Got it installed atm and works fine

[chrishajer]

Oh well

Trying


<?php
if (function_exists('phpinfo')) {
phpinfo();
}
?>


[code]

<?php

if (function_exists('phpinfo')) {

phpinfo();

}

?>

[chrishajer]

Wow, backticks in this post actually formatted the code sort of nicely (with a white box.)

TEST:

<?php

if (function_exists('phpinfo')) {

phpinfo();

}

?>

[chrishajer]

Throw the “folder” below WordPress.

You should put it inside a FOLDER in the root of your WordPress site. The name of that folder determines the URL where the forum will be accessible on the Internet.

So, if your WordPress site is at http://www.example.com/ , and you create a folder called bbpress in your WordPress root (and put all the bbPress files in there) then your bbPress forum will be accessible at http://www.example.com/bbpress/

If you don’t want bbpress in your url, call the folder where you put the files something else. For example, here it’s called “forums”. You can use forum, discussion, community, etc. That will be part of the URL where you access the forum.

/var/www/html/wordpress/wp-content/

/var/www/html/wordpress/wp-admin/

/var/www/html/wordpress/bbpress/

That is where the folder will go; on the same level with wp-content and wp-admin. It is at the same level.

[chrishajer]

Your best bet is to download it via subversion. Grab the trunk release revision r2434.

svn co -r2434 http://svn.automattic.com/bbpress/trunk ./forums

That will check out revision 2434 which is very stable, into a directory called forums on your server.

[johnhds]

Quite a few:

allow images 0.9

auto add favorites 1.0

avatar upload 0.8.3

bavatars 0.4.1

bbcode buttons toolbar 0.0.9

bbpress attachments 0.2.7

bbpress recent replies 0.1b

bbpress signatures 0.2.0

bb wysiwyg editor 1.2.0

custom rotating ads 0.1

google sitemaps 0.1

hot topic 0.0.1

human test for bbpress 0.9.2

image resizer 0.2

prvate forums 5.0

subscribe to topic 0.0.6

social it 1.5

terms of service 0.0.3

topic icons 0.0.5

user photo for bbpress 1.1

xili new post notification (xnpn) 0.9

Thanks

[kevinjohngallagher]

I hope Matt just renames it to something else to prevent massive confusion.

In the way he didn’t do with bbPress for BuddyPress?

Why on earth it wasn’t called “BuddyPress forum plugin – based on bbPress” or an equivalent i’ll never know. All that does is make this community and this product look worse; as we fail to answer support questions over and over.

[kevinjohngallagher]

When I overwrite something, especially in bbPress, I ususally clear that was there before hand.

#front-page #hottags {

background: none;

border: none;

background-color: red;

border: 1px solid blue;

}

That way you don’t need to worry about things that are not implemented in all browsers. The more I work with charities and the more I test on different combinations of OS/Browsers and even mobile platforms, the more I code my CSS like it’s 2000 again. Amazing how it all still works and looks the same.

[kevinjohngallagher]

Hi Taeo!

Thanks for the link, but I feel that you’re way off base.

For those who can’t skip it, here’s the WPtavern recap:

http://www.wptavern.com/mattnote-from-wordcamp-san-francisco

[Matt] even admitted that right now, it would be better off to use another plugin rather than bbPress.

Can anyone explain to me how it was helpful of Matt to do that?

He’s not managing expectations, he’s merely degrading the work people are doing. Note, Matt’s not done this with ANY of his other projects on the go.

The bbPress community was a bit rough around the edges and the flame war that ensued forced Matt to break away for a bit.

First, I think this is quite insulting, but that aside, if Matt thought we were rough around the edges, why has there only been 1 moderator on the forums since July last year?

Anyway, I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. This is total and utter bull***. Matt is an awesome bloke, great on so many levels, but have a read at the “FLAME WAR” (haha). It’s here:

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/whats-happening-with-bbpress/page/5

Have you ever seen a nicer and more polite flame war in your life? In fact, don’t you feel (apart from 1 idiot) that this is a crazily civilised conversation??

Honestly, I think it’s a very fascinating read. Especially given that the main posters (the people who posted twice in reply to Matt’s posts) are the current Main Developer and the ONLY Moderator. And in my eyes, that’s the problem.

Matt realised that no-one agreed with him, he wasn’t weighing up arguements and helping solve a problem, he arranged weekly dev meets and IRC chats and disappeared without telling anyone for 4 weeks and came back with sweeping changes and wasn’t happy when people called him out on it.

I like to point this out every now and then:

http://ma.tt/2009/08/kill-your-community/

It’s written by some clever fellow who cares about communities on the internet and knows a thing or two about building great ones around open source software.

• Don’t Moderate.

  Make sure you only have 1 moderator on the forums. Make sure that everyone else with moderator or above status doesn’t visit the forums for a minimum of 6 months.

• Allow Spam Through.

  And make sure that a lot of legitamate posts are caught instead. Only have 1 moderator so that it can go days before real posts are displayed

• Don’t Participate in Comments.

  Less than 20 posts in 7 years? Matt.

  Less than 5 posts in the last 18 months? Trent

  Less than 5 posts in the last year? mdawaffe

  Sam. Would anyone say that Sam was a participant in these forums while he was the lead dev?

• Design Like NASCAR.

  Design’s a tricky/subjective thing. It is/was disappointing to rollout this theme with 30% of the pages not themed, and not tested on the fonts specified making the quite inreadable.

• Abandon Search Engines

  Anyone tried searching on bbPress?

• No Subscriptions

  Email subscriptions plugin was working with bbPress0.9 (and 0.8.3 as I recall, though I might be wrong). Either way, thats over 2 years folks.

• Make People Click Click Click.

  Have you ever tried to moderate your bbPress users?

  Don’t worry, Anonymous Posting is coming instead. WE’ve only had that as a plugin for 2.5 years. But you moderating your forum? Puh-lease. just you clicky click click.

• Treat Everyone the Same.

  1 moderator. Everyone else, regardless of what they do for the project is the same.

• Don’t Ask Anything of Your Audience.

  In fairness both Matt and Sam have had 1 poll each.

  They just abandoned the poll’s voting and reversed decisions at a later date – making the poll useless (actually, it’s kind of worse, it means they asked then ignored us).

I really detest forum posts that attack people personally. I often wonder/worry if my phrasing makes people feel like i’m having a go, when really I don’t mean to. This isn’t about Matt the person – he’s very cool, and I’ve alot of time and respect for him.

This is about the person at the top of the tree making decisions that someone else already pointed out to be a mistake. Those decisions/mistakes result in actions that “kill your community”. It just so happens that both of these people are Matt

[garrik]

Thanks…your response was 6 minutes ago and I had already done all my back ups so I upgraded.

Now using WordPress 3.0 and BBPress 1.02 and so far, no detectable problems. Nothing wrong with that.

[Rootside]

Correct. Just changing your selector above from #hottags to #front-page #hottags should be enough, it should override the rule in the imported stylesheet:

#front-page #hottags { background: #DFDFDF; border: 1px solid #888; }

Try the following if the above (unexpectedly) doesn’t work:

#front-page #hottags { background-color: #DFDFDF !important; border: 1px solid #888; }

[ts230]

Is it possible to change the background color of the Hot Tags box? I tried doing

#hottags {

background: #DFDFDF;

border: 1px solid #888;

}

and the border appeared, but the background doesn’t change at all. The site is at http://theocas.net/forum/

Thanks for helping me!

[Rootside]

Haha, you absolute star. It works, I just installed and tested it. Thank you so much.

Btw, I think it’s missing the closing ?> declaration

Looks like something stupid is going on, doesn’t it. Do we know why this is happening? My PHP knowledge is just good enough to vaguely tell what’s doing what, but I never understand the bigger picture.

[dmb06208]

Well you kinda beat around my question bush. I was basically asking if official development WAS GOING TO CONTINUE or not. Not much has changed with bbpress in the past year other than the plug-ins released by the public. The moral around here is not the best right now. Ive done some reading. I know its open source. You guys should group together and just fork it right now and say good bye to the head aches. I want to put my time and effort into bbpress, and hope it doesn’t go the way of a dead forum system in two years.