Yeah dreamhost certainly does suck. I just have a $20 per year promo account that I completely forgot about until recently when I wanted to test bbpress on various hosts (I’m looking for other super cheap hosts to try it on if you know of any, especially pay-as-you go like nearlyfreespeech.net)
What’s really strange is that some other forum software works MUCH faster on dreamhost and I am trying to figure out why. Take a look at WP plugin author GamerZ’s SMF (simple machines forum, evolved from YaBB) which is on another Dreamhost node:
http://forums.lesterchan.net
It’s incredibly responsive. Not even running an opcode cache. Of course SMF has half a decade of development behind it, but still, it’s impressive. I suspect they use partial page caching somehow. Meanwhile GamerZ’s WP blog running on the same account, crawls at times.
Thanks for that… good thought.
I changed it to ob_start(null,8192) instead of using the 4096 value you were using in the plugin. I noticed that when I had it set to 4096, I was still getting the really slow page render time for some reason, but 8192 works perfectly.
I think I’ve mentioned it before, but you rule 
Oh, and dreamhost sucks.
I think I figured it out… I added my own timing mechanism to virtually every line of code on the front page, and noticed the extra 0.2 seconds was occurring at random places…
So I put ob_start(); at the beginning of bb-settings.php to turn on output buffering, and now here’s the times I get with like 16 plugins installed, logged in as admin with a ton of custom stuff going on and everything is opcached:
total page time: 0.078 seconds.
time to reach each section:
bb_underscore_plugins_loaded = 0.018
bb_plugins_loaded = 0.021
bb_init = 0.021
bb_index.php_pre_db = 0.024
front-page.php = 0.025
header.php = 0.025
logged-in.php = 0.026
search-form.php = 0.035
footer.php = 0.078
Now that is more like it! Now to remove all my logging….
And thanks for that benchmark plugin… it’s great, I can’t live without it now
As everyone knows, if a user registers in bbpress instead of through wordpress(mu) that user doesn’t get a default role set.
I’ve dug and dug on both the bbpress and wpmu forums and haven’t found a fix for this. I did find a fix that apparently works for wordpress, but I tried it for wordpress mu with no luck.
The 4th post in this thread explains a way to set roles in wordpress mu.
I imagine that a plugin with the combination of the two solutions would allow users to register through bbpress and get a default role on the main wordpress mu blog. But, unfortunately I have no clue what I’m doing. If anyone has a free minute or two to look at the bits of code and maybe hack something together that would be awesome.
Oh, and I’m using the latest versions of both bbpress and wpmu.
After doing some more research, the plugin loading time is virtually instant when you an opcode cache.
I added separate timestamp logging which shows that all the plugins are loaded at 0.019 but the bb_plugins_loaded action doesn’t get fired until 0.1 seconds later.
bb-benchmark.php loaded = 0.019
bb_underscore_plugins_loaded = 0.019
bb_plugins_loaded = 0.102
bb_init = 0.103
bb_index.php_pre_db = 0.106
front-page.php = 0.106
header.php = 0.107
logged-in.php = 0.107
search-form.php = 0.116
footer.php = 0.302
The majority of the time is taken between search form and footer…. I’m not sure yet what gets executed between them.
Hi,
I have a problem placing a div. I want 2 divs placed in 1 div. I only get 1 div in the div, but the other 1 is giving me problems.
This is the code I have:
body
{
background: #fff;
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
height: 100%;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 10pt;
}
.draggable {
position: absolute;
border: 1px solid #0090DF;
background-color: #68BFEF;
text-align: center;
}
#drag1 (= the green one)
{
position: absolute;
border: 1px solid #fff;
background-color: #9c0;
padding: 2px;
margin-left: auto;
margin-right: auto;
}
#drag7
{
top: 10px;
left: 250px;
}
#drag7 div (= the red one)
{
cursor: move;
background-color: #900;
height: 50px;
width: 50px;
margin-left: auto;
margin-right: auto;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<div id="drag1" class="draggable">Drag by handle</div>
<div id="drag7" class="draggable"><div></div>Drag by handle</div>
etc
And this picture will explain excatly what I need (the green div under the red one):
http://www.sourceskins.com/voorbeeld.jpg
Thanks for the help
I’ve put 0.16 into the SVN, I think it updates on the hour.
Once you have 0.16 installed, go edit bb-settings.php in the bbpress root and around line 157 change that section so you add the line bb_benchmark_template_timer('',$plugin.' loaded');
like so:
if ( $plugins = bb_get_option( 'active_plugins' ) )
foreach ( (array) $plugins as $plugin ) {
if ( file_exists(BBPLUGINDIR . $plugin) ) {
require( BBPLUGINDIR . $plugin );
bb_benchmark_template_timer('',$plugin.' loaded');
} }
do_action( 'bb_plugins_loaded' );
unset($plugins, $plugin);
.
That will give you the super detailed output, so if there is a single plugin that is consistently slowing your page load down, you might be able to spot it.
If you are running xcache, the plugins are not slowing you down, they get cached.
So “dedicated virtual” = VPS ? Interesting way to put it.
If so, you are at the mercy of the disk load on the rest of the node.
Your own average load rates have nothing to do with the rest of the server node, the VPS software tricks you.
(the big myth about VPS is that you are you are isolated from your neighbors, you’re not – any high disk use by them will slow you down)
However if you have 1gb guaranteed, then you have quite a huge VPS. If that’s 1gb burst, then it’s another story.
But if you have your own vps you can be using an opcode cache (xcache is very good) and then make sure you are using mysql cache.
Not much else can be done. You could in theory replace apache with LiteSpeed unless you are savvy enough to setup Lighttpd (which I myself won’t bother with)
I’m running xcache opcode caching, and I have a dedicated virtual with 1GB of ram from Mediatemple. I am very committed to making sure the site loads instantly… the site in question is the one linked on my username here.
So loading the plugins causes the speed problems? I’ve tried running phped profiler and couldn’t find where the speed issue was.
Is it the actual parsing of the files, or loading in the functions into the filter/actions list?
I’m considering just concatenating all the plugins into a single plugin, just to see if that makes a difference.
Oh and bbPress’s (and WordPress’s) biggest weakness is not mysql queries – it’s actually all the plugins loading.
Unless you use an opcode cache or have really good disk caching on your host, loading a dozen or more plugins can cause those longer delays.
If you are on a VPS, you need eaccelerator or some other opcode cache. A few shared hosts like dreamhost let you install your own copy of php+fastcgi and eaccelerator too (but I do not recommend DreamHost, quite the opposite).
Depending on your host and how accurate their microtime is (for example I actually get negative numbers sometimes on Dreamhost?!!?) it’s fairly accurate but look at the page after a few tries and round out the numbers.
I have even more improvements in the newest bb-benchmach version (can’t remember if I put it into the SVN yet but I don’t think so). With a slight modification to bb-settings.php you can now get a detailed report like this:
=== benchmark & query results ===
load average: 1.64, 1.23, 1.14
total page time: 0.696 seconds.
time to reach each section:
bb_underscore_plugins_loaded = 0.412
bb-polls.php loaded = 0.421
bb-signatures.php loaded = 0.431
report-post.php loaded = 0.434
user-topics-to-favorites.php loaded = 0.436
tweaks.php loaded = 0.449
bb-topic-views.php loaded = 0.472
my-views.php loaded = 0.479
notification.php loaded = 0.481
bb-gzip.php loaded = 0.488
my-views-installed-available-plugins.php loaded = 0.491
my-views-started-participated-topics.php loaded = 0.493
my-views-most-least-views.php loaded = 0.495
plugin-browser.php loaded = 0.504
bb_plugins_loaded = 0.506
pluggable.php loaded = 0.523
locale.php loaded = 0.543
bb_init = 0.548
bb_index.php_pre_db = 0.603
bb_index.php = 0.616
front-page.php = 0.632
header.php = 0.655
logged-in.php = 0.675
footer.php = 0.694
time to render page: 0.6623 seconds (query time subtracted)
total query count: 11
total query time: 0.0337 seconds
slowest call was # 1 : 0.0169 seconds
SELECT meta_key, meta_value FROM bb_topicmeta WHERE topic_id = '0' server:dbh_local connect: 10.59ms
=== mysql queries used ===
# 1 : 0.0169 seconds
SELECT meta_key, meta_value FROM bb_topicmeta WHERE topic_id = '0' server:dbh_local connect: 10.59ms
etc. etc.
Yup. 2nd post:
look for the #thread li entry [in your CSS] and add to it:
overflow: auto;
If you want something to physically resize the images, no. A plugin is possible but you’d also have to permanently store all the images on your server.
You can. But the mod’s policy around here is to close any threads asking for _hired_ help once contact details have been left, because the boards cannot be used to organise hired, ie. paid-for, help. You can only set up contact. So once you’ve left a contact address, they might as well close it since nothing desirable could come of it.
It’s not exactly transparent to people not in the know, though. Trent, if you see this, might be a good idea to clue people in when you close.
By the way, this is the third topic you made for this, right? That’s probably enough. Anyone interested should have seen this by now.
has anyone come up with a good solution to this for us who can’t code php?
All I want is my members transferred to BBPress from my forums. Thanks .
Hi Null, thank you for your fast reply !
I actually tried the plugin before posting
My main problem with it – is that I can’t translate “forum” and “search” into hebrew. If i could, I would have used it.
Also, for some reason, the plugin is buged, so I can’t move it’s widgets around (in FF and in IE as well).
What would you recommend me to do ?
Check out the bbMenu plugin, it adds a menu to you bbPress. Don’t think it works with rtl, but perhaps you can convert the normal css (see plugin) to the rtl css
The plugin:
https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/bbmenu-12-released?replies=6
And to add a tab:
https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/plugin-addmenutab-10?replies=1
If any changes are needed in the rtl css and you make it work, let me know
Hi.
This is probably a very simple question, but I couldn’t find an easy straight answer.
What code should I add (to the header.php and the style.css), in order to get a nice manu for the forum ?
(I am using the style-rtl.css)
( I just wish people to be able to navigate back to my blog, and to the search page).
Thanks,
Tal.
You have to overwrite the pluggable login functions which will instead check your own existing login system. This wordpress reference should be applicable. https://codex.wordpress.org/Pluggable_Functions
This isn’t something someone else can do for you unless they have your existing login system installed. But if you have any problems we may be able to help with them.
Show me the money!!! (the code 
), cause I think it can fix a bug I have with my own plugin I am working on…
I could never get it to work myself (which 2 hosts have done to me) without just having the following in the .htaccess file:
Options +MultiViews
That doesn’t work for you?
Trent
My .htaccess located in /forums/ had a permission of 644.
I didn’t delete the htaccess, just disabled permalink.. so I still have the contents of the file (I pulled it directly from bbpress rewrite php file):
<IfModule mod_rewrite.c>
RewriteEngine On
RewriteBase /forums/
RewriteRule ^forum/(.+)/page/([0-9]+)$ /forums/forum.php?id=$1&page=$2 [L,QSA]
RewriteRule ^forum/(.+)/?$ /forums/forum.php?id=$1 [L,QSA]
RewriteRule ^topic/(.+)/page/([0-9]+)$ /forums/topic.php?id=$1&page=$2 [L,QSA]
RewriteRule ^topic/(.+)/?$ /forums/topic.php?id=$1 [L,QSA]
RewriteRule ^tags/(.+)/page/([0-9]+)$ /forums/tags.php?tag=$1&page=$2 [L,QSA]
RewriteRule ^tags/(.+)/?$ /forums/tags.php?tag=$1 [L,QSA]
RewriteRule ^tags/?$ /forums/tags.php [L,QSA]
RewriteRule ^profile/(.+)/page/([0-9]+)$ /forums/profile.php?id=$1&page=$2 [L,QSA]
RewriteRule ^profile/(.+)/([a-z-]+)$ /forums/profile.php?id=$1&tab=$2 [L,QSA]
RewriteRule ^profile/(.+)/([a-z-]+)/page/([0-9]+)$ /forums/profile.php?id=$1&tab=$2&page=$3 [L,QSA]
RewriteRule ^profile/(.+)/?$ /forums/profile.php?id=$1 [L,QSA]
RewriteRule ^view/([a-z-]+)/page/([0-9]+)$ /forums/view.php?view=$1&page=$2 [L,QSA]
RewriteRule ^view/([a-z-]+)$ /forums/view.php?view=$1 [L,QSA]
RewriteRule ^rss/$ /forums/rss.php [L,QSA]
RewriteRule ^rss/forum/([0-9]+)$ /forums/rss.php?forum=$1 [L,QSA]
RewriteRule ^rss/topic/([0-9]+)$ /forums/rss.php?topic=$1 [L,QSA]
RewriteRule ^rss/tags/([a-z-]+)$ /forums/rss.php?tag=$1 [L,QSA]
RewriteRule ^rss/profile/([0-9]+)$ /forums/rss.php?profile=$1 [L,QSA]
</IfModule>
Did you follow the instructions to the letter? I know most people don’t have the correct permissions on their .htaccess file in the bbPress folder or don’t just put the 1 single line of code in for problems.
Trent
Closing as the user has left an contact address.
Trent
It appears your server is Microsoft-IIS/6.0. When I access this page I get this error:
Your PHP installation appears to be missing the MySQL which is required for bbPress.
Are you certain your server has MySQL installed? And if MySQL is installed, did you fill out the database details in the config-sample.php, then rename that file to config.php?
At first I thought it might be a syntax problem in the config file, which is a possibility too.
