[zaerl]

http://www.insuranceclaimhelp.org/wp-content/plugins/bbpress/bb-admin/

[zaerl]

http://www.insuranceclaimhelp.org/wp-content/plugins/bbpress/bb-admin/

[Anonymous User]

You can download the trunk version via this link:

https://trac.bbpress.org/changeset/2540/trunk?old_path=%2F&format=zip

On trac.bbpress.org you can choose the version (Browse Source) and there you have the download link on the bottom of the page. (“

Download in other format: Zip Archive”)

Greets

Markus

[Anonymous User]

You can download the trunk version via this link:

https://trac.bbpress.org/changeset/2540/trunk?old_path=%2F&format=zip

On trac.bbpress.org you can choose the version (Browse Source) and there you have the download link on the bottom of the page. (“

Download in other format: Zip Archive”)

Greets

Markus

[blimn]

Hi,

I just installed bbpress to my Indonesian website located at:

http://www.bisniskecil.com

and the forum at

http://www.bisniskecil.com/forum

When question is that when I’m in the forum and I click on any topic it goes to a “Not Found” Page. I don’t know why..

[jetskiron]

I can’t find the admin edit tools to remove or edit a post for the BBPress Discussion Forum. I have not accessed it in over a year. All that has changed is that I went from WP 2.5 to 2.9 on my regular website. My regular website is http://www.insuranceclaimhelp.org, from which the Discussion Forum is linked to.

[RandomGuySays]

Dear zaerl I appreciate you taking the time to read me the GPL but you seem to be consistently missing the point. I’ve already chosen my software so the only purpose of this thread is to help bbPress and as such I think it’s best to just drop this argument and let the rest of us discuss the situation. Thank you for your time.

Briian I haven’t tried Simple:Press and up until now I hadn’t even heard of it, but it’s good to know that it’s out there.

[RandomGuySays]

Dear zaerl I appreciate you taking the time to read me the GPL but you seem to be consistently missing the point. I’ve already chosen my software so the only purpose of this thread is to help bbPress and as such I think it’s best to just drop this argument and let the rest of us discuss the situation. Thank you for your time.

Briian I haven’t tried Simple:Press and up until now I hadn’t even heard of it, but it’s good to know that it’s out there.

[Briian]

Have you tried Simple:Press WordPress forum plugin. It is just like bbPress, but it seamlessly integrates with WordPress, has almost all the features of phpBB or vBulletin, and excellent support.

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[Briian]

Have you tried Simple:Press WordPress forum plugin. It is just like bbPress, but it seamlessly integrates with WordPress, has almost all the features of phpBB or vBulletin, and excellent support.

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[zaerl]

Dear “Random Guy Says” let me write in in more simple words. bbPress is a free software, free as in freedom and free as in “free beer”. Maybe you don’t know what this means. Now we will see what the GPL states. I will only report the short form cause the entire license is too long.

<one line to give the program’s name and a brief idea of what it does.>

Copyright (C) <year> <name of author>

This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify

it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by

the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or

(at your option) any later version.

This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,

but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of

MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the

GNU General Public License for more details.

You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License

along with this program. If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/&gt;.

This is the base of the entire open-source movement of the last 21 years. You get the software _as it is_. You don’t like the software? The developer stop supporting it? Then modify it, you are free to do it. (addendum: Automattic doesn’t provide any kind of official support for bbPress and when someone has a problem he comes here and ask with the hope that someone will solve the problem and as you clearly can see I’m trying to do my best and I’m not one of the official developers).

If you have a web domain I assume that you have an FTP client as well as phpmyadmin as well as a text editor. You don’t know how to change the default number of forums? Write a couple of lines here and someone will answer you back.

But like I said, these are basic forum elements that are missing – for instance, if you have more than 10 topics, by default your forum is now 2 pages long … And to a degree, I agree with that, where the ability to customize the software’s appearance to suit almost anything is a huge reason why I considered it

You know what? There is a feature, a big one, called “templates”. In a template you can change everything you want and there are gazillion of functions that you can call. Why should a forum software must have an option for changing the number of forum displayed? It’s one of that “set it and forget it” option. Change a line (an operation that can be accomplished in nearly 20 seconds) on the template and enjoy your board.

But as Kawauso said, even if the bbPress team made their own optional plugins supporting these basic features (again e.g. polls), at least we wouldn’t have to worry about them losing support.

Akismet and PollDaddy are two service that have premium account.

The plugin idea is what drives the modern days cause it’s far more simple to add a plugin to a repository than sending a core patch to the official dev teams. Plugins are the key features of all successfull modern software. Some example:

1) WordPress

2) Movable Type

3) The entire Mozilla software line (Firefox, Thunderbird, etc)

4) Joomla!

5) Drupal

5) and many, many other

Modular design is the present and the future and thanks God a lot of bloatware are disappearing.

I don’t say that bbPress is an easy to use software. It’s not an “upload and run” software. It suffers the fact that it’s a pretty young software and you must know a bit of php in order to set up it for being the base of a medium-sized community. That’s true. But I think that an administrator must be bit skilled in php/mySQL/mambo-jumbo. I choosed bbPress cause I was frustrated by phpBB and then I was frustrated by bbPress as well but this is the damnation of the system administrator. I have written 7 plugins in order to accomodate my needs and the needs of the community (zaerl Editor, zaerl Visibility, zaerl Post Permalink and zaerl WordPress 3 fix over all) and then I am happy with my system.

Conclusion: it’s ok if you don’t want to use bbPress. I understand your difficulties with plugin/themes and in general the personalizations at code-level. But I can assure you that once you do that couple of changes you will enjoy a great system.

Have a nice day.

[zaerl]

Dear “Random Guy Says” let me write in in more simple words. bbPress is a free software, free as in freedom and free as in “free beer”. Maybe you don’t know what this means. Now we will see what the GPL states. I will only report the short form cause the entire license is too long.

<one line to give the program’s name and a brief idea of what it does.>

Copyright (C) <year> <name of author>

This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify

it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by

the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or

(at your option) any later version.

This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,

but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of

MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the

GNU General Public License for more details.

You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License

along with this program. If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/&gt;.

This is the base of the entire open-source movement of the last 21 years. You get the software _as it is_. You don’t like the software? The developer stop supporting it? Then modify it, you are free to do it. (addendum: Automattic doesn’t provide any kind of official support for bbPress and when someone has a problem he comes here and ask with the hope that someone will solve the problem and as you clearly can see I’m trying to do my best and I’m not one of the official developers).

If you have a web domain I assume that you have an FTP client as well as phpmyadmin as well as a text editor. You don’t know how to change the default number of forums? Write a couple of lines here and someone will answer you back.

But like I said, these are basic forum elements that are missing – for instance, if you have more than 10 topics, by default your forum is now 2 pages long … And to a degree, I agree with that, where the ability to customize the software’s appearance to suit almost anything is a huge reason why I considered it

You know what? There is a feature, a big one, called “templates”. In a template you can change everything you want and there are gazillion of functions that you can call. Why should a forum software must have an option for changing the number of forum displayed? It’s one of that “set it and forget it” option. Change a line (an operation that can be accomplished in nearly 20 seconds) on the template and enjoy your board.

But as Kawauso said, even if the bbPress team made their own optional plugins supporting these basic features (again e.g. polls), at least we wouldn’t have to worry about them losing support.

Akismet and PollDaddy are two service that have premium account.

The plugin idea is what drives the modern days cause it’s far more simple to add a plugin to a repository than sending a core patch to the official dev teams. Plugins are the key features of all successfull modern software. Some example:

1) WordPress

2) Movable Type

3) The entire Mozilla software line (Firefox, Thunderbird, etc)

4) Joomla!

5) Drupal

5) and many, many other

Modular design is the present and the future and thanks God a lot of bloatware are disappearing.

I don’t say that bbPress is an easy to use software. It’s not an “upload and run” software. It suffers the fact that it’s a pretty young software and you must know a bit of php in order to set up it for being the base of a medium-sized community. That’s true. But I think that an administrator must be bit skilled in php/mySQL/mambo-jumbo. I choosed bbPress cause I was frustrated by phpBB and then I was frustrated by bbPress as well but this is the damnation of the system administrator. I have written 7 plugins in order to accomodate my needs and the needs of the community (zaerl Editor, zaerl Visibility, zaerl Post Permalink and zaerl WordPress 3 fix over all) and then I am happy with my system.

Conclusion: it’s ok if you don’t want to use bbPress. I understand your difficulties with plugin/themes and in general the personalizations at code-level. But I can assure you that once you do that couple of changes you will enjoy a great system.

Have a nice day.

[chrishajer]

Where did you download bbPress from? Sounds like you don’t have BackPress and possibly downloaded the latest trunk release, which will not include BackPress. The best way to run the latest trunk version is to install via subversion.

[chrishajer]

Where did you download bbPress from? Sounds like you don’t have BackPress and possibly downloaded the latest trunk release, which will not include BackPress. The best way to run the latest trunk version is to install via subversion.

[RandomGuySays]

I understand what you’re saying. But like I said, these are basic forum elements that are missing – for instance, if you have more than 10 topics, by default your forum is now 2 pages long as opposed to giving the option to choose what’s visible so you can prevent this problem from happening the way other bulletin boards do – without having to edit code. Polls and the like are also standard forum material that are absent with bbPress. As I’ve said before, I understand the premise of the bbPress software – less code is more. And to a degree, I agree with that, where the ability to customize the software’s appearance to suit almost anything is a huge reason why I considered it. But as Kawauso said, even if the bbPress team made their own optional plugins supporting these basic features (again e.g. polls), at least we wouldn’t have to worry about them losing support.

And rjeevan, you’re right, there’s always a risk. Say I install bbPress and one day they stop development. I already have the risk of whether or not a plugin providing a basic accustomed feature will just get discontinued one day, now I have to worry about losing the entire forums too. You’re argueing that there’s always risk, but missing the fact that with software like bbPress (and to a lesser extent, phpbb) there’s more risk. Things like this are in my opinion what’s holding open source software back, when Kawauso provided a simple solution that could in turn please everyone (provided the plugins are developed and maintained by their respectable counterparts).

Ben – For the record, you not reading the EULA on any forum you joined is exactly why an EULA is needed.

[RandomGuySays]

I understand what you’re saying. But like I said, these are basic forum elements that are missing – for instance, if you have more than 10 topics, by default your forum is now 2 pages long as opposed to giving the option to choose what’s visible so you can prevent this problem from happening the way other bulletin boards do – without having to edit code. Polls and the like are also standard forum material that are absent with bbPress. As I’ve said before, I understand the premise of the bbPress software – less code is more. And to a degree, I agree with that, where the ability to customize the software’s appearance to suit almost anything is a huge reason why I considered it. But as Kawauso said, even if the bbPress team made their own optional plugins supporting these basic features (again e.g. polls), at least we wouldn’t have to worry about them losing support.

And rjeevan, you’re right, there’s always a risk. Say I install bbPress and one day they stop development. I already have the risk of whether or not a plugin providing a basic accustomed feature will just get discontinued one day, now I have to worry about losing the entire forums too. You’re argueing that there’s always risk, but missing the fact that with software like bbPress (and to a lesser extent, phpbb) there’s more risk. Things like this are in my opinion what’s holding open source software back, when Kawauso provided a simple solution that could in turn please everyone (provided the plugins are developed and maintained by their respectable counterparts).

Ben – For the record, you not reading the EULA on any forum you joined is exactly why an EULA is needed.

[rjeevan]

RandomGuySays, by reading your post; I can see that you are not a developer; As a developer it makes perfect scene to me why bbpress is stripped down to very basic of bulletin board (Maybe event more less of a bulletin board) and this is why I like bbPress.

as zaerl suggested, you are more worrying about third-party software than bbPress it’s self. Say you install vBulletin board and one day they stop development/supporting, what would you do? There is always a risk when it comes to using someone else product….

The way I see it, when third party plugin developer stop supporting their plugin; some one else will continue the IDEA of that plugin in some way (I’m sure you can find more than one plugin of a kind) and you can easily get help on how to convert your old pugin data into new (there are so many forum / boards to help with php and open sources).

Anyways, I’m not to say bbPress is better than others (I’m doing freelancing and I’ve used different forum in different occasion). You have to choose what do you want for your requirements (remember; requirements change over time)…

[rjeevan]

RandomGuySays, by reading your post; I can see that you are not a developer; As a developer it makes perfect scene to me why bbpress is stripped down to very basic of bulletin board (Maybe event more less of a bulletin board) and this is why I like bbPress.

as zaerl suggested, you are more worrying about third-party software than bbPress it’s self. Say you install vBulletin board and one day they stop development/supporting, what would you do? There is always a risk when it comes to using someone else product….

The way I see it, when third party plugin developer stop supporting their plugin; some one else will continue the IDEA of that plugin in some way (I’m sure you can find more than one plugin of a kind) and you can easily get help on how to convert your old pugin data into new (there are so many forum / boards to help with php and open sources).

Anyways, I’m not to say bbPress is better than others (I’m doing freelancing and I’ve used different forum in different occasion). You have to choose what do you want for your requirements (remember; requirements change over time)…

[RandomGuySays]

Dear zaerl,

The purpose of this thread was to explain why I wasn’t choosing bbPress. Your defense of bbPress being what it is was completely moot as you act as if I was unaware of other forum software after specifically mentioning numerous times the differences between them. Your reply to the original post wasn’t exactly, “productive” so much as it was pointing out the obvious after clearly missing the point. That is, if you have infact read the entire post as you now claim to have done.

Allow me to make an analogy of my own: You’re like a child that feels the need to defend something purely based on emotional attachment rather than utilizing the information put before you. Instead of providing something beneficial to the community – i.e. a thread such as this one, you’d rather spend your time repeating the idiom, “you get what you pay for” as if it held weight in your arguement.

[RandomGuySays]

Dear zaerl,

The purpose of this thread was to explain why I wasn’t choosing bbPress. Your defense of bbPress being what it is was completely moot as you act as if I was unaware of other forum software after specifically mentioning numerous times the differences between them. Your reply to the original post wasn’t exactly, “productive” so much as it was pointing out the obvious after clearly missing the point. That is, if you have infact read the entire post as you now claim to have done.

Allow me to make an analogy of my own: You’re like a child that feels the need to defend something purely based on emotional attachment rather than utilizing the information put before you. Instead of providing something beneficial to the community – i.e. a thread such as this one, you’d rather spend your time repeating the idiom, “you get what you pay for” as if it held weight in your arguement.

[zaerl]

Exactly. And zaerl is the perfect example of what happens when you skim through something instead of actually reading it. There’s a reason it’s lengthy, so next time read the whole thing before complaining about it.

Dear “random guy says” when you choose a software, like when you choose a car or a banana you look at the thing you will buy and then you choose.

There are a lot of bulletin software out in the wild and you have a lot of alternatives. As you can see from the main page of bbPress that particular piece of software has been built in order to be the most light as possible and to let the users expand it the way they want.

Now you are in the “bbPress Support Forums” and you are saying that you can’t choose bbPress. It’s ok, I accept your position but your post isn’t exactly a “feedback” but just a rant from a user that doesn’t understand the philosophy that drive bbPress as well as WordPress as well as every modern CMS-like system used nowadays.

I have read your entire post and you are just saying that you can’t choose bbPress cause it isn’t shipped with everything you want and that you are afraid by the fact that plugins are third-party software and that the mantainer can stop supporting it. Then you know what? Install phpBB. It is a gargantuan software full of every feature your mind can even imagine. But it’s slow, bloated, full of double-flip hack in the code and you need a ninja server when your userbase grow up a little. Or buy vBullettin. It’s slightly better that phpBB and you have also phone assistance. That’s what you’re searching for.

But answer me: why do ranting on the bbPress forum regarding the bbPress/WordPress philosophy? You think that you will change something? Or that you will add something valuable?

I dare to make an analogy: you are like a customer that enter a Tesla Motors reseller saying that he will not buy the new Roadster 2.5 cause you like the smell of gasoline in the morning.

[zaerl]

Exactly. And zaerl is the perfect example of what happens when you skim through something instead of actually reading it. There’s a reason it’s lengthy, so next time read the whole thing before complaining about it.

Dear “random guy says” when you choose a software, like when you choose a car or a banana you look at the thing you will buy and then you choose.

There are a lot of bulletin software out in the wild and you have a lot of alternatives. As you can see from the main page of bbPress that particular piece of software has been built in order to be the most light as possible and to let the users expand it the way they want.

Now you are in the “bbPress Support Forums” and you are saying that you can’t choose bbPress. It’s ok, I accept your position but your post isn’t exactly a “feedback” but just a rant from a user that doesn’t understand the philosophy that drive bbPress as well as WordPress as well as every modern CMS-like system used nowadays.

I have read your entire post and you are just saying that you can’t choose bbPress cause it isn’t shipped with everything you want and that you are afraid by the fact that plugins are third-party software and that the mantainer can stop supporting it. Then you know what? Install phpBB. It is a gargantuan software full of every feature your mind can even imagine. But it’s slow, bloated, full of double-flip hack in the code and you need a ninja server when your userbase grow up a little. Or buy vBullettin. It’s slightly better that phpBB and you have also phone assistance. That’s what you’re searching for.

But answer me: why do ranting on the bbPress forum regarding the bbPress/WordPress philosophy? You think that you will change something? Or that you will add something valuable?

I dare to make an analogy: you are like a customer that enter a Tesla Motors reseller saying that he will not buy the new Roadster 2.5 cause you like the smell of gasoline in the morning.

[mr_pelle]

zaerl editor: https://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/zaerl-editor/

Excellent plugin!

[mr_pelle]

zaerl editor: https://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/zaerl-editor/

Excellent plugin!

[Ben Sutcliffe]

Heys,

I have to disagree. bbPress is the exact alternative to other forum software, and that’s why it’s great. It’s lightweight and really easy to fiddle about with. You do need to know PHP and an understanding of how other Automattic products work comes in handy, but the end result is that bbPress is a great base for dynamic forums.

I’ve used it to create forums that don’t really look like they ever were bbPress, and I think that’s the beauty of the software. There’s very little point in Automattic creating another phpBB – the market is already flooded, and services like vBulletin already “do that”.

bbPress doesn’t do a lot of things by default: it’s behind WordPress on things like threaded replies and the like, but it’s damn easy to create that kind of thing, without excessive code. If you want it all done for you, use something else; bbPress gives you the platform to take code and build on top. Add threaded replies if you so wish, require users to sign up using Twitter or FB Connect if you want to keep the robots out, and create templates and designs that are truly yours. You don’t have to use whatever pre-defined nonsense is held within phpBB.

If you want to get rid of links, you can comment them out or delete the link altogether in the template. The simplicity and lightweight nature of bbPress make it truly flexible. With plugins bbPress can do anything. I’ve never had to deal with a single element of spam on any forum I host, and I have a lot of posts on one of them. Akismet keeps spam down, like it does on WordPress, and ReCAPTCHA is a beautiful and highly functional tool for keeping robots out. It’s a little like WordPress: if you want a ready made blog you use Blogger or Tumblr, if you want to take more control, WordPress allows you to (simply) control anything.

Finally, why do you need a EULA? KISS – a terms of use page linked to from your footer works just as well. I’m not sure I ever actually read the EULA on any forum I joined.

Ben