[John James Jacoby]

I’m actually testing this as we speak. The plug-in itself is written rather poorly and is ultimately just a WordPress widget. I will report back once I have more experience with it.

[chrishajer]

I will chime in with my thoughts.

1. Most people who find bbPress do so because of its integration capabilities with WordPress. I would say that is the most common non-problem question on these forums. How do you integrate the logins so you can log in at either bbPress or WordPress and the login carries across to the other side. Integrated; seemless.

2. The other common thing people want to be able to do is make their bbPress install look like their WordPress install. Loading WordPress inside bbPress is not recommended, but it’s the easiest way to accomplish including the header, sidebar, footer, etc. But, that seems to break other things. Regardless, I would say that’s the second most requested feature, how do I get my bbPress installation to look like a WordPress page. I know it’s not a WordPress plugin, but, this is what people want.

So, 1) integrated logins and 2) making bbPress look like WordPress. If it can’t do those things easily, then it’s just forum software. Maybe it’s better in the things it does and doesn’t do, compared to other forum software, but we should stop saying you can integrate bbPress and WordPress because it just doesn’t happen easily. So, it’s forum software from the people who make WordPress.

Also, WordPress 2.5 is recommended by bbPress for integrated logins. 2.5 came out around April 2008 IIRC.

You know, I thought the same thing as johnjamesjacoby when I saw this post: how about fixing what’s broken and leave Facebook alone. Then I thought Facebook doesn’t take much time to set up and it might be a good diversion. So, it’s harmless in and of itself, but, really, I would prefer to fix these two issues and then see the volume of support requests here drop off a cliff.

Just my $.02.

[_ck_]

I just disagree with promoting a product before it’s even usable.

bbPress is very usable, just not finished. But it’s certainly *not* being promoted. All we have is this support forum. If it was being promoted, it would be listed on WordPress.org/WordPress.com and there would be hundreds of thousands of users. bbPress currently has less than 10,000 active installs. That should change by this time next year.

bbPress was originally written by Matt to simply give a support forum for WordPress (WordPress.org). Everything from there was just Matt releasing the source. There never was a general plan after that until Matt started talking about TalkPress which is still very far away by my best guess.

bbPress’s greatest strength is it can be integrated in many websites easily and made to look like them easily. But it’s still a growing child and very young. If you are looking for a polished product, you need something with over half a decade of development like phpBB, vBulletin or SMF. The downside to them is they are very rigid and hard to develop for. bbPress is incredibly easy to develop for, I only learned PHP a few years ago and look what I’ve managed to do. Just imagine what a person who knew what they were doing could do

[_ck_]

If you have your own server make sure you setup your mysql cache properly and even more importantly make sure you install some kind of PHP opcode cache (eaccelerator, xcache or APC). Even the fastest server will greatly benefit from an opcode cache.

[_ck_]

Yes that configuration is certainly possible.

The same logic applies, both cookies need to be using the webroot as the path.

[Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)]

You’d have to copy all your bb_ tables to a new database, so (this is theory) you could export them AND your wp_users table (obviously as a copy).

Make a new install of bbPress (rather than try to undo everything you did to integrate), then import the old data.

[mithrandir321]

Hello, I’ve started up with installing WordPress, then bbPress and integrated them. Since I’ve decided that I won’t be using a blog in near future I’d like bbPress to be running standalone (with its own user table) and independent of WordPress. How can this be done?

Many thanks.

[mithrandir321]

Hello, is it possible to run bbPress in webroot and WordPress in a subdir and have them integrated? (This option is not mentioned in the initial FAQ here in this topic)

[techypenguin]

hi u all. sorry for the late reply. i’ve got it sorted. it’s because of my server cache level is not enough for handling newer version of server software. I recently bought a hp proliant server and all the issues been sorted. thanks for the reply. i’m thinking to develop a plugin for bbpress now since i’m happy with my server..

[John James Jacoby]

Well, I’m not missing the point of final products, but WordPress is at version 2.7 and isn’t quite a final product either. The result of the community driven open source product is that pre 1.0 alpha/beta software isn’t really any more or less stable than the next “stable” version, because even if development stops for a moment to celebrate the next milestone, there is still more to do.

I also get how bbPress was introduced and how the developers have chosen to support it. I just disagree with promoting a product before it’s even usable. I guess I take more pride in my product than that. I run the trunk version of both WP and BBP on a relatively small website. I update them nightly. It’s really the best way for me to stay involved and report back problems. I just feel this integration issue is way more important than the attention it gets. It just seems to me like it’s never really worked right ever.

And I also choose personally to not believe that just because a product is graciously delivered to someone for free, that there aren’t certain expectations placed on the quality of that product. I could give someone a cookie, but if it’s stale or poisoned doesn’t really make me a good friend.

Also, the last thing I want to do is bite the hand that feeds me. I really love bbPress and WordPress, promise. I just find the development cycle frustrating some days.

(Off topic: We’ve called animal control, the police, and the condo association. The police say they can’t give her a ticket if she isn’t home, and when she’s home the dog doesn’t bark so they can’t ticket her then either. They’re useless. Animal control told me that if I do not have proof of cruelty in terms of the dog not having adequate food and water, they will not pursue the owner. The condo association is writing her their third letter asking her to correct the issue. Writing a letter is less effective than posting on a forum. )

[_ck_]

I have no use for facebook myself but johnjamesjacoby I think you are missing the point that bbPress is not even a 1.0 final product yet and should not be used on projects if that can’t deal with bugs and problems. You should never install a pre-1.0, alpha or beta product unless you can handle bugs.

bbPress like WordPress was not developed for the heck of it to give out for free, it was written for WordPress.com and just happens to have free source available.

(and you need to call animal control if there’s a dog barking for that long, most towns have anti-noise ordinances to protect you from that kind of annoyance)

[Sam Bauers]

I believe it’s not a registered trademark. The small caps style is to match WordPress. I’m going to have to consult with Matt Thomas (Automattic Designer) at some stage.

[chrishajer]

I don’t think the the BB in bbPress should ever be small caps. Always lowercase. Looks better.

+1

Looks worse this way, IMO. I like the little bb. Is bbPress a trademark like WordPress is (capitalization included)? If so, then there’s no question. It needs to be little bb.

[John James Jacoby]

I wonder if there is a WordPress.org theme make-over in the works to celebrate the new admin panel?

[_ck_]

The new theme should match the WordPress.org theme but in dark greens so we have a common identity.

I don’t think the the BB in bbPress should ever be small caps. Always lowercase. Looks better.

[Sam Bauers]

I’ve made a few long overdue adjustments to the layout on this site. There are still some bits that could be better, but I only wanted to alleviate some of the long standing complaints people had about the layout. I’m planning a more thorough overhaul as we approach bbPress 1.0

You’ll notice I’ve turned on Gravatars, if you want to add or change your Gravatar then you need to do so through http://gravatar.com/

I’m also trying on a new logo to see how it fits (top left corner), it’s closely modelled on the current WordPress logo and is designed to compliment it better than the old logo.

All feedback welcome.

[TechGnome]

Currently I have a website, let’s say mydomain.com which is currently a WordPress site (for now, more on that in a sec). I have successfully installed and been running bbPress at a subdomain: forums.mydomain.com. So far everything is hunky dory. Except that now I want to dump the WP part of the site and replace it with something homegrown (I no longer have a need for a blog-based website). The website is going to be for a streaming radio station. What I would like to be able to do is integrate bbPress to leverage the users/logins, so that those who are registered can login and make requests.

Building the PHP/templates for the site isn’t the problem, but what would be the best way to get to the necessary bbPress objects/database/”stuff” so that I can 1) tell if the user is logged in and 2) who they are (so that I can track for request reasons). If I was integrating with WP, I’d use one the WP-integration options, but since I’m not, I’m not sure how to go about performing this. Actually that’s not entirely true… I guess what I really want to ask is, if my bbPress is in one folder linked to a subdomain, what do I need to include from another folder to get to bbPress user info from the main domain.

I hope this made sense.

-tg

[mithrandir321]

I’m now going through the WP and BB integration FAQ and it seems there is no option for BB in webroot and WP in a subdir listed there: https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/wordpress-and-bbpress-integration-101#post-17412

Could this be wrong? Something to do with cookies? But then the BB homepage gives these errors, so I’m not even trying to log in…

[Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)]

Oh, so true! So true! That’s what she keeps me around for nice new Gravatar, BTW.

[_ck_]

I’m afraid I do qualify for too many of the “Granny” points – large fonts, too many cats, health problems, etc. LOL!

But I bet your granny can’t write PHP or javascript so that makes me feel better somehow…

[Sam Bauers]

Changes are in trunk of WPMU to help sort out the cookie sharing problem there.

https://trac.mu.wordpress.org/ticket/809

A lot of the use of config settings in all these solutions are a bit heavy handed, most of these settings are done automatically and you only need to copy them to your bb-config file once you are happy with them.

[Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)]

Oh, eh, that’d do it! I flipped mine to Granny Mode (sorry, _ck_, it’s what I use for my gran with glaucoma) and I reproduced it. Huh. Better check my layout for that too!

[_ck_]

Maybe it’s because I use the “large fonts” setting in Windows.

That makes my fonts like 10-20% bigger.

[hotforwords]

Deadpan110, your procedure worked perfectly for me. I have WordPress 2.6.5 and bbpress 1 alpha 2.

I didn’t know what to put into Secret_Key and Secret_Salt.. I assumed they referred to: Secret and Auth_Salt in WP 2.6.5

And it works great! Now let’s see what happens with 2.7!

[Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)]

I don’t see any ads (and I block them too).

Immelody, I would suggest making the border around the login info boxes (for name and password) darker. I almost missed where they were and wondered how people logged in