In case you didn’t it’s up on the WordPress 3.0 launch post – scroll down a bit.
http://wordpress.org/development/2010/06/thelonious/
If you work with WordPress in addition to bbPress I urge you to check it out. You’ll get alot of insight into how Matt sees things going in the future and how they (Automatic) approach open source.
If you don’t work with WordPress I still urge you to check it out! Towards the end a woman asks a question about the state of bbPress. He answers very frankly and cites these very forums.
I know there are many people on these forums right now that are not thrilled with Matt and Automatic’s handling of bbPress over the past year or so. For me his comments in this video really puts things in perspective and I now feel very good about the future of bbPress.
Earlier in the video Matt discusses how the WordPress team is planning on trying something new and releasing what he calls “core plugins” for WordPress 3 – basically large scale plugins that add powerful functionality and are officially supported by Automatic. I foresee bbPress becoming one such plugin.
Anyways enough of me telling you about it, go watch the video!
Thanks…your response was 6 minutes ago and I had already done all my back ups so I upgraded.
Now using WordPress 3.0 and BBPress 1.02 and so far, no detectable problems. Nothing wrong with that.
metaboy: Yes.
1. bbPress generally seems to work fine out of the box with 3.0, at least for me and a few others, so that’s looking good
2. I needed zaerl’s plugin for deep integration, ie using WordPress functions/template tags to pull in the WordPress header and footer. I’ve tested it further since, and haven’t encountered any problems.
In fact, only the registration of new users was ever a problem. I had WordPress 3.0 RC and bbPress running for a few days before I even encountered that issue.
I was reading through that and got a little lost. At the end you were able to get things working with Zaerl’s plugin?
Yes. There is only a little problem regarding registration (if you use deep integration) but this is solved by my plugin. If you don’t use deep integration don’t install it.
I did a fresh install of both and everything is working as far as I can tell.
I was reading through that and got a little lost. At the end you were able to get things working with Zaerl’s plugin?
I have decided to hold off on upgrading to WordPress 3.0 because of my plugins and my fear of breaking something.
Has anyone using bbpress upgraded to 3.0 yet? Possible?
The closing tag isn’t required.
The problem is that WordPress declare a global variable called $user_email and in bbPress core file register.php they use the double-dollar notation (variable variables) that are evil. EVIL. So a $$key become a $user_email that is already defined and than not assigned and blah blah blah.
I’ve built a plugin for you. It’s called zaerl WordPress 3 fix. http://pastebin.com/JhJzLjvQ
Have a nice day.
Well you kinda beat around my question bush. I was basically asking if official development WAS GOING TO CONTINUE or not. Not much has changed with bbpress in the past year other than the plug-ins released by the public. The moral around here is not the best right now. Ive done some reading. I know its open source. You guys should group together and just fork it right now and say good bye to the head aches. I want to put my time and effort into bbpress, and hope it doesn’t go the way of a dead forum system in two years.
Oh, thanks…
“Deep Integration” was never intended with bbPress sadly
I don’t know – of course I’d really like to have bbPress “deeply integrated”, and it’s particularly frustrating to see that everything seems to work except for the registration process (and some other, solvable little bits like title tag, current page body tag etc.).
But I would probably agree that deep bbPress integration shouldn’t be a priority for WordPress core development. In that respect, having bbPress as a standalone system that also works inside WordPress may simply be asking too much:
Look at other solutions – they’re either bloated or phenomenally ugly and near impossible to customise, or both. But I’ve tested several of them with WordPress 3.0 RC3, and they all get two things right straight away – integration and shared users, with just a few clicks.
They’re also all plugins…
For now, I’ll have to see if someone finds a way around this problem, or if I’ll have to replicate my WordPress theme for bbPress and leave deep integration alone. Stupid, really.
Then there’s also Justin Tadlock, who is building a forum using nothing but WordPress custom post types and custom taxonomies. Should be interesting to see how that pans out…
I’ll stick this on the WP boards – it seems WordPress 3.0 has been released just a few minutes ago, I’m pretty sure others will run into the same problem.
When you say it does not work mate, can you tell us what it does instead?
It might be a quick fix
Rootside, this is good methodical thinking, thank you for it.
“Deep Integration” was never intended with bbPress sadly, and it’s something that the Automattic folks have shy’d away from. I’ll look for Sam’s quote on it in a bit (as he summed it up brilliantly).
I’d throw this error on the WP board and see if it gets any traction (i reported the original bug form this thread and it recieved no responses at all), but it might not given that bbPress’s integration with WordPress is not a priority for either system.
If this still exists in 3.0 when it’s released, we’ll see if we can get a sticky made to warn people.
Good work!
Wait a minute:
Looks like it might be deep integration that’s causing the problem:
https://bbpress.org/documentation/integration-with-wordpress/ recommends adding require_once(dirname(__FILE__) . '/path/to/wp-load.php'); to bb-config.php.
I just added that (using the correct path) to my working installation, and I’m getting the ’email is required’ behaviour again. Delete it, and registration works.
I’m not sure if that means deep integration doesn’t work at all with WP3.0…?
Okay, bug hunting is hereby unsuccessfully terminated for the time being:
I installed WordPress 3.0 RC3 and bbPress 1.0.2 in a different subdomain on the same server, and everything works as it should:
I can register new accounts, they show up in WordPress without a role, but as soon as I’ve logged in and posted a reply, I’m mapped as a subscriber in WordPress.
Adding a new user in WordPress works as well, I can hop over to bbPress, log in with the details chosen in WordPress, and post as a member.
Now that I see it working on the same server, I must have made a mistake in the first installation, or it’s a crazy bug. I doubt it had to do with my custom theme, because I switched back to the defaults during testing. However, I’ve only tested the new installation with the defaults, I’ll be back here if anything goes weird…
I’m still slightly uneasy about this of course, because I usually find the bugs or errors, even if I can’t always (okay, rarely) solve or correct them myself. But given that bbPress is BY FAR the best solution for a simple forum on WordPress, I simply had to make it work. Non-intrusive custom themes and Akismet are just two reasons why bbPress is so far ahead of other WordPress integrated solutions; I’ve tested 4 alternatives over the last week or so – OMFG.
The only thing I can offer to others is to try again, following Sam Bauer’s screencast at https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/basic-integration-screencast
(with one addition: when bbPress asks for the cookie salts and you can’t find them on the admin page bbPress links to, copy them from wp-config.php)
I’m sorry to tell you people that..its working on localhost correctly but not on live… depressed again…topic still not resolved 
I was merely offering a solution. You don’t have to take it.
I actually install WordPress with almost every bbPress forum, even if it’s not needed. I don’t use Deep Integration so there is no overhead. All I do is point my bbPress forum action towards the WordPress page, and it redirects people back to bbPress, without ever seeing WordPress.
Again, it’s merely a solution. It’s not one that you have to take.
but I still need it
Then write it yourself mate
You did already get annoyed and bumped your own post when no-one had replied in under 4 hours. If you need it that desperately, then you should write it yourself
Otherwise, we’re jsut trying to help.
…think beyond
… answering your questions next time? you got it, i’ll think beyond
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EDIT:
Pagal didn’t we actually go over this 4 weeks ago?
Look, what we have here:
https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/wordpress-registration-and-login-via-bbpress
Started by Pagal 4 weeks ago.
Which was solved at :
https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/using-login_form-from-bbpress-on-a-wordpress-site
@kevinjohngallagher but I still need it… no need of plugin but code..
if you force all your members to kick off toward wordpress then its your choice not mine and not other members…think beyond
Generic plugins are actually quite good for this, at least the WordPress one is quite ideal. I generally force all my members to register and login via WordPress and that gives me way more options in terms of Plugins and Database
should I waste my time and effort in this forum software
You should never waste your time on anything.
Is it going to stay alive and healthy?
It’s open source software.
It can be anything you want it to be. If at any time it’s not what you want, you can change it
Cos, respectfully, none of us can see into the future.
Yes, yes and yes. Respectively. I love the clean style of your site. I will change the double-line border of the forum table in a single line.
The site is http://retro-replay.com
Ive added a bbpress forum and I am tweaking it as we speak. They sync together and cross post well. I am sure I can continue to move forward in a positive direction until the forum meets my satisfaction. My question is, should I waste my time and effort in this forum software? Is it going to stay alive and healthy? I need to know this now before I move forward.
Thanks. Weird code though. Wish bbPress was more like WordPress…
How can I determine if the user is an admin or not?
I have the following code so far (based on a WordPress one I use):
<?php global $bb_current_user; bb_get_current_user_info(); if ($bb_current_user->bb_user_level == 10 ) { ?><li><a title="Admin" href="http://www.paperviewmagazine.com/forums/bb-admin/">Admin</a></li><?php } ?>
But it doesn’t quite work, I’m guessing the user level is the problem. I know I could use bb_admin_link but I want to write the url myself.
Also how can I get the url for the profile edit page for a logged in user? so for example:
/forums/profile/cameron/edit/
Thanks.
