[rfleigh]

hi guys, please help..

i have a regular php website to which many people are already registered. is it possible to integrate the BBPress login to be the same ? or does integration only work between BBPredd and WordPress?

i would like people to only log in once to my site and have access to the registered people content, as well as to the forums without loging in again.

thank you

[Andrew]

I just set up a bbpress forum and use the WP user database. It works well though plugins are needed and some hackery of bb-config is required (see here.

I use the private forums plugin. There is another plugin that blocks all access to the site. You could always make ma minor mod to bbpress source to force login and not rely on a plugin.

I’ve seen some discussion on WP about BBpress. I believe they changed the way they handle tags in order to not step on bbpress.

[Ziyphr]

I’ve monitored bbPress for some time and plan to use WP for a big site and would need to convert a phpBB(2) forum over to bbPress. What’s the latest on:

1) WP integration – last I heard you had to fiddle with cookie settings and some usernames wouldn’t work on the forum login. I’d be wary of using plugins as this could cause problems upgrading in future.

2) phpBB(2) conversion – is there any script that will convert everything perfectly?

3) future plans – is there a new version in development or is everything on hold for now? (i.e. should I just go and install the current version or wait another month or two)

4) private forums – an essential feature for me is to have a staff board that is 100% secure. Again I didn’t really want to rely on a plugin for this and last time I think I read it wasn’t secure because of an RSS problem.

5) lastly – is bbPress compatibility high on the list when new versions of WordPress are released? (i.e. could a new WP break by forum?)

Cheers.

[ameriblog]

i just downloaded and installed bbpress. everything worked fine. i have the most recent release of wordpress installed in my main site directory and bbpress is installed in the /forums/ directory.

when i go to http://www.mysite.com/forums/ it displays the main page, but with no images/styles. when i try to view my css file in the browser (http://www.mysite.com/forums/bb-templates/kakumei/style.css) it displays my main wordpress page.

i have pretty permalinks running on both and would like to keep it that way.

[fel64]

This means their bbpress login will mysteriously fail.

No it won’t. No matter what cookies users have, they will not prevent them logging in.

schmitt, must say I really liked your site. Not at all interested in things financial but it was engaging nonetheless.

You could put these lines at the top of your bb-login.php:

header('Location: http://www.example.com/');

exit;

Obviously changing the URL to that of your wp-login.php. I don’t know how else you’d do that. This may have all sorts of crazy adverse effects because I haven’t tried it myself; maybe ck can say how he did it?

[_ck_]

I don’t think wordpress allows “@” does it?

You shouldn’t allow email addresses as usernames on a forum.

Very bad idea.

However that said, this same routine could be used to override that.

[Andrew]

Great plugin, perfect for what I needed. Only thing missing is an email to notify the new user the account has been created.

I noticed that creating a user account in WordPress does not notify the user via email, so perhaps the current behavior is correct. Thoughts?

[Andrew]

Yes, but users reading the above… make sure to replace the MD5 hash with the one from your site. Do not simply cut and paste.

[_ck_]

I would like to suggest this forum would seriously benefit from:

1. “Tips and Tricks”

2. “Integration with WordPress”

as two new sub-forums

[_ck_]

There is an obscure cookie control plugin for wordpress that I found somewhere around here I think:

http://www.2diabolos.com/blog/plugins-pour-wordpress/setcookieparams/

the bbpress config options you want are like this:

$bb->wp_table_prefix = 'wp_';  // WordPress table prefix.  Example: 'wp_';

$bb->wp_home = 'http://example.com/blog';  // WordPress - Options->General: Blog address (URL) // Example: 'http://example.com'

$bb->wp_siteurl = 'http://example.com';  // WordPress - Options->General: WordPress address (URL) // Example: 'http://example.com'



$bb->usercookie = 'wordpressuser_ab1b1c8b2de0ca2b381c25a6b6e812a1';

$bb->passcookie = 'wordpresspass_ab1b1c8b2de0ca2b381c25a6b6e812a1';

$bb->cookiedomain = 'example.com';

$bb->cookiepath = '/';

you also obviously want this plugin:

https://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/2?replies=3

and less obviously this one is a must for WP integration:

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/usernames-with-spaces-do-not-work?replies=24#post-7904

unfortunately it’s not setup here as a formal plugin but it should be – see my dot fix at the end

[_ck_]

I guess part of my concern is how casually it’s either told or assumed that BB integrates with WP, and that BB is ready for primetime. There’s good reason why it’s set at a pre-1.0 version number.

Many people here are integrating micro-forums with a handful of members, never more than a few people on at the same time. If there’s a problem, it can wait as it’s not an active website.

But my experience with BB was that tried integrating BB with several hundred members on a WP site. I eventually had to take it offline a week later. Here’s why:

First it took a day or two to find the plugin to fix spaces with usernames. Eventually I found out spaces were not the only problem, dots were not covered so I had to patch that.

Then I found out that many people had their cookies set to “remember me” which means even when you fix the cookie path so it off the root, it’s useless because the old cookie will never delete. Had to deal with dozens of emails and complaints and give them all individual instructions. Then there’s the problem of hundreds of people making hundreds of posts without any mods.

Unlike WordPress, the bbpress moderation tools are non-existant. It’s a non-issue for a micro-forum because you’ve literally got a 1 to 10 mod to user ratio. But now multiply that by 700-800 very active members. You’d then need 70 to 80 mods since every message posted has to be read by hand, by going into the thread and dealing with each one!

The ideal ratio is maybe one mod to 100 users or higher would be better, but you can’t do that without the right tools. There’s no way to browse through all posts at once and moderate immediately or setup some kind of automation process.

There’s no working badwords filter, there’s no way to limit posts that are too short or too long, there’s no post merging tool, there’s no adjustable posting rate per user, there’s no way to keep in touch with moderators. All this has to be added in with plugins, many not fully debugged yet or working correctly with 0.8.2.1 Some of them were not improved until just recently after I made feature requests after trying to use them.

It was exhausting and depressing so I took bbpress offline. But I am trying to help improve bbpress, not just complain. I think it’s about to hit critical mass with the growing number of people using it and more powerful plugins available and it has a lot of potential.

If I had a commercial forum with ads and made money off it, I’d go buy vbulletin as it’s the king and has years of trial and error and getting it right. But most people who use bbpress won’t be doing it for commercial reasons.

So that’s why I’m curious when I read that someone walked away from another forum program and switched to bbpress…

[Andrew]

Next step will be this…

I also went a step further and routed all the login links on bbpress back to the wordpress login box since it has a few extra features. I use the redirect_to option to bring them back to bbpress.

I’ll search the forum but any guidance is appreciated.

[Andrew]

OK, feeling pretty stupid now.

I used the first suggestion:

$bb->usercookie = ‘wordpressuser_full.hash.number’;

$bb->passcookie = ‘wordpresspass_full.hash.number’;

Except this time I replaced it with my actual MD5. DUH!!!

$bb->usercookie = ‘wordpressuser_ed93838a3c2677b2a3d53669c26b039b’;

$bb->passcookie = ‘wordpresspass_ed93838a3c2677b2a3d53669c26b039b’;

Things working smoothly now. Thank you for your help and I hope this thread helps someone else.

[Andrew]

Everything _ck_ mentions is what I want to do.

[Trent Adams]

I think we should write up a massive thread on all the things to do for proper integration since there are bits and pieces that work for most people all over this forum.

Trent

[_ck_]

Remember that many users will already have the “remember me” set for their cookie on wordpress and that doesn’t expire for a year. This means their bbpress login will mysteriously fail. They’ll either give up or re-register a new nickname.

You also need the space and period plugin fix for names. WordPress allows them, bbpress doesn’t by default. So anyone with a space or period in their nickname will fail logging into bbPress. Not knowing such things can drive you mad.

I also went a step further and routed all the login links on bbpress back to the wordpress login box since it has a few extra features. I use the redirect_to option to bring them back to bbpress.

ps. another good integration thread for a future integration sub-forum

[Trent Adams]

Most just work with defining the wordpress part of the config.php and some need to play around. As well, there is always defining the cookie domain from https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/cookie-domain-settings?replies=4

Trent

[Andrew]

I still have the cookiepath variable set… can I remove that?

[Andrew]

Now I can’t log in to BBPress. Changing the config.php back.

Is there something atypical about my install that is creating the problem. How can I just conform to the norm?

[Trent Adams]

Darn copy and paste….

Trent

[Andrew]

I assume you mean….

$bb->usercookie = ‘wordpressuser_full.hash.number’;

$bb->passcookie = ‘wordpresspass_full.hash.number’;

double quotes at end changed to single. Trying now.

[Trent Adams]

Try adding the following to your bbPress config.php:

$bb->usercookie = 'wordpressuser_full.hash.number";

$bb->passcookie = 'wordpresspass_full.hash.number";

Trent

[silverwing]

Is there a way to add an include in a bbpress theme? I want to add some content in the pages that will change, and I just want to change one file instead of multiple ones.

Something like this <?php include (TEMPLATEPATH . '/featured.php'); ?> from my wordpress theme. But have featured.php in my bbpress theme folder.

[Andrew]

I think I see the problem now. BBPress is setting a different MD5 hash than wordpress. This must have to do with the fact it is installed in the subdirectory. Why is my install generating the wrong hash…

My config.php is set up as above. Ive pasted it below. I included the full URL coding where as you used only the http://www.xxxx.xxxx – I can’t imagine that makes a difference.

$bb->wp_table_prefix = ‘wp_’; // WordPress table prefix. Example: ‘wp_’;

$bb->wp_home = ‘http://www.nyquistcapital.com/’; // WordPress – Options->General: Blog address (URL) // Example: ‘http://example.com’

$bb->wp_siteurl = ‘http://www.nyquistcapital.com/’; // WordPress – Options->General: WordPress address (URL) // Example: ‘http://example.com’

$bb->cookiepath = ‘/’; // Added per BBPress Forum Suggestion to ensure WordPress user sharing

---

wordpressuser_ed93838a3c2677b2a3d53669c26b039b

Path: /

Content:admin

wordpresspass_ed93838a3c2677b2a3d53669c26b039b

Path:/

Content:<HASH>

And for BBPress

wordpressuser_34c5633735768bf923be82cd0042b16a

Path: /

Content:admin

wordpresspass_34c5633735768bf923be82cd0042b16a

Path:/

Content:<HASH>

[fel64]

Expected behaviour is that signing into one will sign you into the other.

Can you please do the following:

Clear your cookies.

Log into wordpress and record what cookies are set, including domain and path (properties of each cookie).

Clear your cookies again.

Log into bb. Again record the cookies set. Are you logged into wp?

Tell us the cookies set from each case.