[@ajtruckle Participant 5 years ago]

This has already been raised and actively discussed here:

Freshness doesn’t seem to update as quickly any more?

[@ajtruckle Participant 5 years ago]

Do your posts have links in?

[@ajtruckle Participant 5 years ago]

Sounds like my problem. New topics update correct. But replies don’t.

[@ajtruckle Participant 5 years ago]

@robin-w I am happy to add you as a admin to my site if you want to view it there … but for me, it sounds like you have already spotted the issue with replies not bubbling the results back up the chain correctly.

[@ajtruckle Participant 5 years ago]

@robin-w I am using WP Super Cache now. But I understood I had set it up to exclude the support forums from caching:

https://www.publictalksoftware.co.uk/screenshots/forum/wp-supercache-settings.png

[@ajtruckle Participant 5 years ago]

I did another test today for this issue and it seemed to be working. I will keep an eye on it.

[@ajtruckle Participant 5 years ago]

At the moment I have not added them to the allowed tags. It is just that xsl scripting is a huge concept and I really don’t want to have to add all possible configurations there. The TinyMCE Advanced say it is not their issue (like the video / source escape issue).

[@ajtruckle Participant 5 years ago]

This is my complete configuration if it helps.

I don’t understand why my “Meeting Schedule Assistant” forum has rather sporadic ordering of the forums!

General Information - Category - Public - Order 0
 FAQ - Forum - Public - Order 0
 Misc - Forum - Private - Order 1 

Meeting Schedule Assistant - Category - Private - Order 0
 General Discussion - Forum - Private - Order 0
 Assignments Editor - Forum - Private - Order 2
 Midweek Editor - Forum - Private - Order 2
 Midweek Editor Custom Templates - Forum - Private - Order 2
 Calendar Sync - Forum - Private - Order 3
 MWB Info - Forum - Private - Order 4
 Translations - Forum - Private - Order 4

Public Talks - Category - Private - Order 1
 General Discussion - Forum - Private - Order 0
 Custom Report Scripts - Forum - Private - Order 1
 Custom Report Scripts Samples - Forum - Private - Order 2
 Calendar Sync - Forum - Private - Order 3
 Send Outlook - Forum - Private - Order 4
 Talk Outlines - Forum - Private - Order 5
 Translations - Forum - Private - Order 6

Visits Rota - Category - Private- Order 2
 General Discussion - Forum - Private - Order 1
 Translations - Forum - Private - Order 2

[@ajtruckle Participant 5 years ago]

TinyMCE Advanced plug-in since it allows more configuration of the buttons on the toolbar.

[@ajtruckle Participant 5 years ago]

Ok, thanks for looking into this. I appreciate any resolution.

In my case I think it should still be able to do it. If I am logged in it has access to all forums so should be able to handle it. In fact I only provided the aforementioned configuration as it is my first category but for all the others they are all private.

IMHO it must be able to walk backup the path. I understand there may be situations I can’t quite grasp but from my master forums page I can see all my categories and all their forums in one list – there on the screen. The only difference is when not logged in you only see one public forum (which is closed anyway). So there is no fighting over what should supersede what.

I am sure you will all come up with something. Ideally consistent with the “create topic”. If that can work, then the other should in theory follow the same tactic.

I look forward to any improvements with this. I am sure others will be grateful too!

[@ajtruckle Participant 5 years ago]

This can be closed because the 2.6.x improved the moderation functionality.

[@ajtruckle Participant 5 years ago]

The not-logged in user only sees the public FAQ forum.

The logged in user should also see the private forum with the correct freshness. It does not matter if the category is private or public, the issue remains. I have three other top level categories that are all private each with their own private forums and they all suffer the same problem.

[@ajtruckle Participant 5 years ago]

It is ok. This can be closed.

[@ajtruckle Participant 5 years ago]

I also stress @robin-w that it is when making REPLIES to topics that this issue happens. If I CREATE a new topic the freshness seems to cascade up the hierarchy.

[@ajtruckle Participant 5 years ago]

ROOT

General Information – category (status OPEN) – Visibility PUBLIC – No parent – order 0
FAQ – Forum – PUBLIC (Status CLOSED) – parent ‘General Information’ order 0
Miscellaneous – Forum – PRIVATE (Status OPEN) – parent ‘General Information’ order 1

Andrew

[@ajtruckle Participant 5 years ago]

Hi @robin-w

1/ Yes, moderation is switched off. Since the “links” might potentially include any type of item that has a URL in it I did not see it practical to just increase the number of links. So moderation has been switched off for several days now:

// ==============================================================
// Switch off bbPress Forum moderation
add_filter( 'bbp_bypass_check_for_moderation', '__return_true' );
// ==============================================================

2/ It is never random. It is on the demand. Every reply to a topic I made yesterday needed me to run the tool to fix everything.

I am assuming that there is breakage in rolling freshness results back up the hierarchy.

[@ajtruckle Participant 5 years ago]

I still have a bug with the inserting of videos. If I am creating the topic / reply as an ADMIn then the code is correct:

<video controls="controls" width="300" height="150">
<source src="https://www.publictalksoftware.co.uk/videos/forum/pts-test-video.mp4" type="video/mp4" /></video>

When you hit SUBMIT the video can be played etc.

But when you are NON-ADMIN and hit SUBMIT the outer chevrons of the inner SOURCE tag get escaped. I don’t know where this issue lies:

– WordPress 5.3?
– TinyMCE Insert Media Plugin 4.9.6 ?
– bbPress 2.6.2?

[@ajtruckle Participant 5 years ago]

@robin-w If it helps, I did a search for _bbp_last_active_time in the post meta table and only one entry had today’s date (the reply I had made).

I then did a search for my forum in question as “post_id” to see what it shows:

_bbp_last_active_time 2019-11-20 19:01:31, 
_bbp_last_active_id 3546, 
_bbp_last_reply_id 3546, 
_bbp_last_topic_id 3546

If I then run the tool to get the freshness correct in the forum and examine the same records again:

_bbp_last_active_time 2019-11-24 08:06:38, 
_bbp_last_active_id 3580, 
_bbp_last_reply_id 3580, 
_bbp_last_topic_id 3546

So the database is not getting updated with the freshness and it is not a caching issue.

[@ajtruckle Participant 5 years ago]

@robin-w I can confirm that the “reply” to the “topic” has the right value in the blog_posts table but I don’t know where the fields you listed in item 2 reside in the database.

[@ajtruckle Participant 5 years, 1 month ago]

Add this to your child theme functions.php or use a snippet plugin:

// ==============================================================
// Switch off bbPress Forum moderation
add_filter( 'bbp_bypass_check_for_moderation', '__return_true' );
// ==============================================================

[@ajtruckle Participant 5 years, 1 month ago]

Read the whole discussion. There is a snippet to switch off moderation. Can you see it?

[@ajtruckle Participant 5 years, 1 month ago]

Resolved

[@ajtruckle Participant 5 years, 1 month ago]

I managed to select all posts where the post_type is “revision”. And post_parent is xxxx.

That is supposed to be the records I need, but i still don’t see the actual text of the revision entry in the revision log.

[@ajtruckle Participant 5 years, 1 month ago]

Thanks. I can see the source post entry in the table but I can’t see the little log revision text anywhere.

[@ajtruckle Participant 5 years, 1 month ago]

What was your resolution? Switching off moderation or something else?