[_ck_]

Yes, there are already sites using it that way.

In fact if they are all using the same domain “example.com” then you don’t even need an extra plugin to do it.

Set all the cookie paths to the domain root. /

Point all the user tables to the same db.

Setup the same cookie keys/hash and done.

This wasn’t really a question for Matt unless in general people want to know how a bbpress plugin would handle multiple installs. As far as I could guess, you’d have to install multiple copies of WP.

[zaerl]

It’s a known issue of deep integrating bbPress 1.0.2 with WordPress 3.0. One of mine plugins solve this:

https://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/zaerl-wordpress-3-integration/

[Erlend]

So I’m wondering, how will the bbPress plugin deal with front-end editing? It’s certainly not uncommon that you need to go back and edit your post, and when you do that you’d rather not be sucked into the WP admin panel just for a quick edit. However, from the little I’ve experienced and read about plugins taking advantage of custom post types in WordPress, front-end editing is no simple task.

Example one: BuddyPress Wiki Component

http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/bp-wiki/

In order to achieve front-end editing of wiki pages (custom post type), it bundles its own TinyMCE script. This also allows it to extend TinyMCE with wiki-specific features.

Example two: Justin Tadlock’s Custom Post Type based Forum

http://justintadlock.com/archives/2010/07/16/a-wordpress-forum-plugin-using-custom-post-types

At the time being, front-end editing is not possible with his forum, and according to his roadmap the forum will use existing inline-edit plugins available (I believe Scribu’s editor was mentioned somewhere).

—

I wouldn’t imagine the official bbPress plugin would resort to yet another plugin for such a basic functionality, so what’s the plan? What I’d love to see is rich front-end editing based on the native WP editor, meaning if I have plugins that extend the native editor, they also extend the front-end editor (provided its within the scope of the editor-extending plugin and the admin enables it).

Best case scenario, this involves modifying the WordPress core so that plugins like the two mentioned above will also have an easier time tapping into native WordPress for front-end edits.

[Erlend]

I’ll just say this: All I’m seeing is many bbPress standalone users passionate about keeping bbpress.org as the home for the standalone software that they’ve come to rely on, while the only people steadfastly arguing bbpress.org should be the home of the new WordPress Forum plugin, are the core developers. While the rest of us, those who are eagerly planning to make the switch from standalone (or BuddyPress) script to plugin when the time arrives, couldn’t care less what it’s called, as long as it’s official, sleek and solid.

In other words:

“Keep the bbpress.org domain for the software it is today! Make a new one for the plugin!”

In favor: Several

Opposed: Few

Don’t care: Thousands

So there are some benefits about sticking to bbpress.org thrown about, but what have you got to lose by picking a new name? What happened to making everyone happy when you’ve got the chance?

I reckon we’re all pro innovation, right? As far as I’m concerned, I’m only typing up this rant in an attempt to foster innovation, and that’s it. Either which way this turns out I’ll still have the plugin I’ve always dreamed of. I just want it to become the best it can be.

We could probably keep the existing bbP directory running in a different directory to give people time to transition.

Not everyone’s going to ever make that transition, you know that.

In the wake of just a couple days of posting, I think it’s pretty evident that a bbPress fork, or 0.9 continuation more like it, is a pretty likely forecast. Now where could a front runner or two organically emerge to lead such a new initiative? bbPress.org. Where would such an initiative pick up the most momentum? bbPress.org. I couldn’t think of a significant third, but if I did? bbPress.org.

Does a bbPress plugin need any of this? No. A single mention on WordPress.org/.com (include the rest of the WordPress/Automattic ecosystem for good measure) and this plugin will have more buzz than any domain by itself could ever achieve anyway.

And I don’t believe a standalone bbPress fork would damage WordPress. If anything, it would only challenge its limits. bbPress will be shoulder to shoulder with the likes of Vanilla, while WordPress + Forum will be just that; +reason why you should pick WordPress to build your website. Don’t fool yourself into thinking that someone who wants just a forum will pick a plugin powered by a blog. If you want eggs you get eggs, not a full English breakfast with eggs on top.

“This just in: WordPress foundation gives bbpress.org back to the community that’s been keeping it alive” That’s what I wanna see. Openness for the friggin’ history books.

[slee]

Hi all, id like to set up a wordpress website that lets a user signup which then gives them their own blog and also gives them access to the forum – is this possible?

then as an extra but not essential – is it possible to do the above but use facebook connect to gain access to the above?

hope that makes sense

[Chip Bennett]

Call me crazy, but I’m excited about this change. Initially, I wasn’t – but bbPress integration into WordPress has only benefits for me.

I can’t wait to see it come to fruition – and then get to work modifying my theme(s) to accommodate bbPress-as-WP-plugin! (Hey, what are a few more template tags, functions, and hooks to learn, among friends?)

[yetanotherlogin]

To have WP send my admin password, I edited php.ini to use my ISP’s SMTP server instead of “localhost” (no SMTP server on this test host), restarted PHP-FastCGI, and clicked on the WP “Lost your password?”, but I get this:

“The e-mail could not be sent.

Possible reason: your host may have disabled the mail() function…”

So can’t get the admin password back. Anyway, since it doesn’t complain about the password and just loops back, I assume it has to do with the WP/bbPress integration?

[Pete Mall]

No, the plugin is built directly on top of WordPress.

[Brian Duffy]

I installed wordpress using simplescripts. I installed bbpress manually.

Everything works fine until I add the following line to bb-config.php

require_once(dirname(__FILE__) . ‘/../wp-load.php’);

After adding the above code I can no longer login to bbpress.

Instead I get the below error:

Fatal error: Cannot redeclare class PasswordHash in /home7/brianduf/public_html/wordpress/forum/bb-includes/backpress/class.passwordhash.php on line 38

If anyone could help to throw some light on this for me I would be over the moon : )

[_ck_]

Yeah I suspected as much. Thanks for switching it on Otto!

Sam did some work and then a great deal was copied over for bbpress.org 2.0

I noticed the xml generator was there and the flash element was on bbpress.org too.

Now if we could just get DD32 (Dion) to document the darn API for it as I have no clue how to use it and can’t find anything via google (other than downloading the ENTIRE dataset). https://api.wordpress.org/plugins/info/1.0/

Oh wait, here’s something http://wordpress.pastebin.com/raw.php?i=7Ji8rD2P

bingo – docs: http://comox.textdrive.com/pipermail/wp-hackers/2009-January/023505.html

Doesn’t seem to be on the bbPress side anyway after all that, oh well.

ps. I don’t suppose you can get tags working again in the plugin section – they are not being imported from the readme.txt file anymore. Is it because of the tag api name changes from bbpress 0.9 -> 1.0 ?

ie. add_topic_tags became bb_add_topic_tags

but that’s in the deprecated support, so not sure what else it might be

[yetanotherlogin]

Thansk Kevin for the link.

I followed the whole procedure down to “3. Deep Integration > 8. Log into WP Dashboard”… but now, I can no longer log on (/wordpress/wp-login.php)

FWIW, it doesn’t say that the password is incorrect, but it loops back to Username/Password.

Tried Chrome and Firefox, same result. I did empty the browser cache, as asked in the procedure, same result.

FWIW2, I can still log on to bbPress as admin.

Any idea why I can no longer log on to WP?

BTW, when is “deep integration” needed? I’d simply like a link to the underlying bbPress forum to be displayed in the WordPress main UI.

Thank you.

[_KB_]

ck, Reference: see it

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/demo-one-wordpress-vs-multiple-bbpress

(activate it, its rescued from akismet)

[_KB_]

So, here exactly What I want,

Suppose I’ve planned to run multiple discussion boards, and I’m using

http://zptest.info/ ( WordPress )

http://zptest.info/students/ [bbpress 1]

http://zptest.info/teachers/ [bbpress 2]

http://zptest.info/management/ [bbpress 3]

I’ve done:

-1: Shared User Integration ( Works )

-2: Shared Database Integration ( Works )

-3: Shared Cookies Integration (Not Works, that’s what I want)

I’ve followed all instruction from bbpress Integration tutorial

Now cookies not works, you can test it at zptest.info

user: test

pass: test

(I can send also admin’s or ftp detail, if anyone really interested)

cookies are conflicting, sometimes not logout from other boards.

Suggestion:

I’m hopping there should be a plugin, just for set cookies for multiple boards in same domain.

People just do, user integration, and database integration.

then install ( cookies plugin ), that’s all,

Come on, _ck_, you can do it,

Thanks

KB

[_KB_]

@_ck_ i’m running multiple bbpress instances like

example.com/bbpress1

example.com/bbpress2

example.com/bbpress100

Is your plugin will work for this situation?

Also curious for matt’s response.

Thanks

[_ck_]

KB: “after that they are just unable to set cookies integration over multiple boards”

My cross-cookie plugin allows you to set cookies over multiple domains running bbPress and WordPress. There are a few sites using it to share a cookie over several installs.

[Ryan Hellyer]

@wtfmatt2 – Please bug off and stop ranting. Either that or articulate your responses into a respectful manner. Matt and co. are doing their best. Ranting and whining is achieving nothing more than making you look like a complete tool.

[Martin Hasan]

Been there, done that. Even though I’m using the same database for wordpress/bbpress it doesn’t recognizes the new user as an admin.

[_KB_]

@ Matt Mullenweg Thanks Man for your response, I really sorry, if you did not understand my sentences, I try again to explain them,

No-1 – How did you set cookies integration b/w various wp forums?

No-2 – Did you apply the same procedure for all forums like this bbPress Integration Tutorial?

No-3- If you apply the same procedure ( link above ) for all forums then why it did not work for us, Did you apply some extra techniques to work them together? Can you plz describe them?

No-4 – Shared user integration and Share database works for us, we just need cookies integration over multiple bbpress instances.

Additional Questions:

No-5: Is hosting matters in cookies integration?

No-6: If I install multiple bbpress instances (right now), then after (in future ) WP-bbP-Plugin’s announcement can I switch from standalone to bbPress-Plugin with same plugins, database, users, content, without losing anything???

Need Your Suggestion:

I’ve prepared One wordpress with 100+ bbPress Instances, Should I launch my project? Or should I wait for Plugin?

Humble Request to others:

Its my humble request to all people who are in this topic, Please For God Sake don’t deface my topic, don’t go off topic, this topic is becoming our future, try to understand, stay focus.

A Wish for Matt:

I’m not against to any of your action. If you’ve planned to make bbpress a plugin then definitely you knows its pros and cons, SO, best of luck, and my all well wishes and We are with you!.

I’ll do my best to answer it

I’m hoping that you’ll again give me a smart response.

Thanks

Cheers

[kevinjohngallagher]

I’d strongly recommend this: http://wpbbpthemes.org/integration/

It covers installation in more than 8 steps, and should help a fair bit

[yetanotherlogin]

Hello

This is the first time I’m setting up WordPress and bbPress, so it could be something very obvious, but from reading the tutorial, I couldn’t figure out what to enter at Step 2 – WordPress integration:

CHECKED Add integration settings

CHECKED Add cookie integration settings

WordPress address (URL) This value is required to continue.

? http://192.168.0.8:8787/wordpress/

Blog address (URL)

? http://192.168.0.8:8787/wordpress/

WordPress “auth” cookie key

?

FYI, on the test host, I have WP installed in /var/www/wordpress/ and bbPress in /var/www/bbpress. The two applications shared the same database in MySQL, since I assume it’s easier that way and they use a different prefix when creating tables.

Considering this context, does someone know what to type above

Thank you for any help.

[ZKuJoe]

I originally used WordPress for my blog but now I use bbPress for my blog. I have no plans on ever installing WordPress again since bbPress acts as my blog while functioning like a forum.

If bbPress was formed into a plugin instead of a standalone script, I will continue using it and do me and my team will do our own coding/bug fixes.

[Erlend]

But you certainly are not going to get anyone who is NOT using WordPress to install WordPress just to create a forum. There are far better options out there.

You’re probably right. Yet allow me to give an example of how major plugins like bbPress and BuddyPress complement WordPress in a way that greatly adds to its appeal (i.e. grows the customer base beyond those interested in WordPress)

Much like WordPress, our project (jMonkeyEngine) is a continuation of someone else’s work. When we picked up the reins of the jmonkeyengine.com website, we were stuck with three separate content systems (SMF, DokuWiki, WordPress) and a mess of custom code. We looked at several options, like:

– Extend SMF (no doubt the heart of our community activities) into a full-scale CMS

– Tie all systems together with a solution like Atlassian’s Crowd

– Replace our custom front page with Joomla! and use JFusion to tie all four tightly together.

– Replace everything with a widely extended Joomla!

We practically tried all of those options and more in practice, either in testing environments or on our live site. Meanwhile I’d been looking at complete ‘community solutions’, like Elgg, OpenWack, JomSocial, BuddyPress…

(I definitely looked at Drupal as well, but they just didn’t seem to have anything near as simple as say JomSocial that just goes ‘boom, now you can start build your community).

Then bbPress came to BuddyPress, and I made a decision. I proposed an overhaul and we got moving:

http://www.jmonkeyengine.com/forum/index.php?topic=13934.0

The only reason we’re not spamming press-boards with ‘look at us!’ links yet is because we made the decision to move everything over at once, and that includes the risky decision of adopting the BuddyPress-Wiki plugin (every other essential has been covered by core features) to replace our DokuWiki. With D.P. Cartwright’s dedicated help we’re just about there though.

Erm, point ahoy!

So the point I’m trying to make is, we never stopped to consider WordPress as a CMS, until BuddyPress arrived as the major complement to fulfill our every need in one package, as opposed to 20+ plugins. Having used WordPress for my own portfolio page and general sandbox play I already knew how intuitive (extremely so when compared to Joomla!) and easy to extend it is. When the last remaining piece of the puzzle arrived, the choice was a no-brainer. I imagine many will come to the same realization with bbPress.

I know I did not prove you wrong; I just figured people might find this brief case study interesting.

[Martin Hasan]

Here goes nothing…

The other day after upgrading to WordPress 3 I decided to create a new user, delete de old “admin” user and set the right permissions to the new user.

Now the problem is that I’ve integrated wordpress and bbpress. When I login to the forum, it doesn’t recognize the new user as admin. Therefore I can’t access the bbpress admin section.

When I go to forum/bb-admin/ it just takes me back to the forum’s index.

Is there a way to change this?

[wtfmatt3]

@JJJ hell no you won’t. Just ask Joomla. And Mambo. And…

This is the end of bbpress. This is what happens when you have a company of less than 20 people, all juvenile suck-ups, making long-term decisions. They just don’t get it.

If man-child Matt won’t publicly admit it, then it must be true. You should go hang out with Mark Zuckerberg you guys are perfect for each other.

[John James Jacoby]

johnhiler, part of us using WordPress’s built in API and architecture means we’re actually leaving turned off a lot of functionality that could easily be turned on, filtered, changed, or added to with actions.

Without it being too over the top, we’re trying to plan ahead and put actions and filters where I think I would use them myself. Since most of what we do for clients is develop custom plugins to change the way WordPress functions, we should be able to apply that experience to bbPress.

One of the things we’ve struggled on with BuddyPress, is how to make plugins, for plugins. Since plugins don’t have an internal dependency like there is on CSS or JS, we’ve had to filter and action our way into a workable solution.

So while bbPress itself is a plugin, the plan is for other plugins to be able to sneak in and change bbPress behavior before it loads, or be able to ‘plug in’ the same as always. So bbPress will be its own core, but also modular and pluggable.

All this, while striving to be as light as possible. Our work is cut out for us.