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- Started 2 years ago by Darfuria
- Latest reply from Matt Mullenweg
What's happening with bbPress?
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- Posted 2 years ago #
There have not been any meetups in the past couple weeks. No sense talking about what needs to be done.
not too encouraging to see nothing here since Nov: http://comox.textdrive.com/pipermail/bbdev/
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I think the only reason people are hanging on is because the vast majority of us are aware of the beauty of WordPress, and we're convinced that bbPress can become a similar product - unfortunately there isn't an existing piece of software that's like the WordPress of forums. There isn't a piece of software that has a simple core, that allows you to write an index.php file with 'if has threads while has threads the thread', and that is exactly what bbPress needs to become. I'm not bothered if it becomes a WordPress plugin, because WordPress isn't really a lot of hassle to install, and I already know how to make a WordPress theme. I just want it to hurry up. I'm tired of working with phpBB3.
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- Posted 2 years ago #
I meant to post this link as well. You can see the code that's been checked in by browsing the revisions.
http://trac.bbpress.org/log/trunk?rev=2401
There was a big chunk of time where nothing was committed from revision 2377 on 24 Sept 2009 until 2382 on 22 December 2009. Here's all the code committed since sambauers left.
http://trac.bbpress.org/changeset?old=2401%40trunk&new=2377%40trunk
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- Posted 2 years ago #
Without "concern trolling", the major issue i have with BBpress is that we have no idea what's going on most of the time. When we asked what was going on, we were told to read the blog. When the blog goes quiet, we're told to read the chat logs directly. Now they've gone quiet and now we're told to look at the code being submited.
It's really lovely of Chrishajer to post these links, and it's very insightful (thank you chris), but its also a bit of a nightmare for us not knowing what's going on.
Far too many useful bits of information, or worse - announcements, are made halfway down random conversations. BBpress being a WP plugin, was thrown in to an IRC chat via Matt. Obviously, we're still waiting for that to be posted on the forum, or given it's own blog post etc. (only been 6 weeks Kev, calm down, only been 6 weeks).
Look, i'm not moaning, really, i'm having a great day here, but in my opinion there were some issues that plagued Sam's time here, and i had hoped that some of these were being resolved. Communication is a big one. I wrote in my post: How to help us, help BBpress... last January that the Wizard of Oz treatment was getting us nowhere.
Well i'll leave it there, i'm sure i'll be told to relax soon enough.
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- Posted 2 years ago #
I'm just posting the information in case someone can pick out the signs of life there. Those are the only places I know to go for information. The blog here was never a source for much information. The bbdev mailing list used to be useful, but nothing much happened there since Nov. You can look at closed tickets in trac, and you can look at the code being committed. If there is any other place to get information, please post it.
Based on all those things, there's not much happening with bbPress, to answer the initial question.
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- Posted 2 years ago #
@all:
I don't know how else to say this: I'm losing interest in bbPress.
Wondering how easy BuddyPress is to pickup...
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@ grassrootspa and @all
I think you hit the nail on the head with BuddyPress, I have been asking that question and no one will comment. I don't know much about it but there is a lot of energy swarming around BuddyPress. Go to twitter and checkout #BuddyPress, something new all the time, then check #bbpress and practically nothing. I think BuddyPress may be the way to go but I don't know much about the forum aspect of it. From what I understand it is not longer only for WPMU. -
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@tonicarr, what question are you asking that was unanswered?
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- Posted 2 years ago #
@tonicarr:
Haha, we must have been separated at birth!
RE: development activity and attention, your twitter remarks say it all. I know bbPress isn't going to 'die' but it's just so stagnant right now compared to BuddyPress and WordPress. It's night and day.
Yeah, they are merging WP and WPMU. Smart idea in my humble opinion.
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BuddyPress has great forum software built in... it uses bbPress. :-)
http://buddypress.org/about -
- Posted 2 years ago #
I don't think anyone but you can answer the first one.
BuddyPress does have a good forum, as far as I've heard. You can learn more about how bbPress was integrated with Buddypress in this IRC log:
http://bbpress.org/blog/2009/12/2009-12-09-meetup/You can ask Andy directly about forums in BuddyPress too:
http://twitter.com/apeatlingOr John James Jacoby:
http://twitter.com/johnjamesjacobyHe was active here for a while and then became a dev for BuddyPress. He would be a good one to ask about the energy required.
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BuddyPress is a series of plugins on top of WordPress MU... I don't think that's going to change. In fact, that sounds like the new plan for bbPress: to become a plugin on top of WordPress MU.
In terms of BuddyPress versus bbPress: BuddyPress actually uses bbPress code to power its forums. So using BuddyPress isn't exactly walking away from bbPress... bbPress comes standard with a BuddyPress install!
In terms of what you use to power your sites, it's probably best to choose your software solution based on your needs. If you want a social network with blogs thrown on top, BuddyPress is a good bet. If you want forum software with a plugin architecture, bbPress is currently the only game in town.
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- Posted 2 years ago #
Here's a little bad news re: BuddyPress (well for me anyway):
I asked Andy (one of the lead developers of BuddyPress) and there will probably never be a proper out-of-the-box way to have multiple bbPress installs integrated with a single BuddyPress install (unless of course someone develops a plugin to do so independent of BuddyPress's standard release)
Looks like it will be one bbPress install paired with one BuddyPress install integration wise.
For most folks this is not a major deal but I personally didn't like this. I was excited about the idea of tons of bbPress forums integrated together (same user database) working properly with one BuddyPress install. oh well.
The sticking point? The 'activity stream' is tricky when it comes to showing bbPress forum activity. I got the multiple bbPress installs working in the sense that they all shared the same user databases but the 'activity stream' didn't want to show the forum activity on the various independent bbPress installs.
The thing I dislike the most about BuddyPress is how the 'activity stream' is in relation to 'Groups' and, you guessed it, bbPress. Still having a dog of a time getting these things to work together with a NORMAL one-to-one BuddyPress bbPress integration!!!
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- Posted 2 years ago #
Hi to all,
I think that Automattic works increasingly on BuddyPress before developing on bbPress at the moment – yesterday has appeared the Second Release Candidate of BuddyPress 1.2.
The Trac shows BuddyPress 1.2 no longer in the originally planned schedule, but the official release will be soon. :)
I can imagine that after publication of BuddyPress 1.2 the work will be focused at bbPress again. Automattic hopes for the big success of a Single Installation of WordPress (2.9.1/3.0) together with BudyPress as social network module.
Then – as we can hope - bbPress is the third component that will be integrated.
Greetings
Markus -
BuddyPress has a lead developer - Andy Peatling:
http://apeatling.wordpress.com/about-me/bbPress does not have a lead developer right now. Automattic founder and bbPress creator Matt Mullenweg ( http://ma.tt/ ) was hosting weekly bbPress chats and jamming out a few features along with another Automattic dev, but that stopped a while ago and we haven't heard from Matt since.
It's not likely that Andy is going to switch tracks and work on bbPress... he's pretty focused on BuddyPress, and it has an ambitious product map that should keep him busy!
Maybe Matt will come back to us after his schedule clears up... we'll find out soon enough!
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- Posted 2 years ago #
I hope Andy sticks with BuddyPress. That project is getting a lot of love right now and I think that should continue. John James Jacoby also develops for BuddyPress.
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- Posted 2 years ago #
I've been on the road for a few weeks -- back now. People seem to pull a chicken little every 10 minutes though -- I wish as much effort went into more productive activity but it seems there isn't overlap.
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- Posted 2 years ago #
The sky is falling the sky is falling! :)
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- Posted 2 years ago #
I wish as much effort went into more productive activity
Like what mate?
Plugins?
Themes?We've been sitting with a semi-functioning release for over 6 months, and there's a new version coming out at some unknown point in the future, and given the track record, we can't develop anything for it becasue BBpress releases = break loads of things from before.
Heck even your single solitary remaining moderator has told people that. (i don't want to requote chris too much, he's been a great mod who's workign his socks off here, and don't want to back him into a corner).
With the upmost respect bud, we can only go on what we're told. And we're told to check the blog, then we're told to check the weekly IRC logs, then we're told to check trac updates, then we're told to check commits etc etc. Every time someone pulls a "chicken little" the place they're told to check for updates doesn't have any, and then they come back a bit more worried.
We're not intentionally pulling a "chicken little" every 10 mins matey, we're just trying to keep up. It takes very little time (thanks to a wonderful blogging platform ;-] ) to post saying "no irc chat for 3 weeks folks", and the problem is solved.
Much like spam, it's best prevented before it sets in, rather than being unhappy about it afterwards. May i suggest that less of the "Wizard of Oz" routine (man behind the curtain saying all is well) might diminish some of the "Chiken Little" routine that seems to irk? Maybe communication could be considered your Akismet :)
What i'm not sure you get it mate (and you might, so i'll apologise if you do), that alot of us are in limbo with this. We're all in a holding pattern waiting for this mythical next release, and man, we want to help. But with no communication, its really hard.
http://www.dilbert.com/fast/2003-10-12/
That said, really hope you had a great time on your travels :D
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- Posted 2 years ago #
"Like what mate?" Core improvements -- I've given core commit access to anyone who has shown ability. I've never told anyone to check for updates, you must be referring to someone else. I'm sorry it's stressing you out so much.
