[@ajtruckle Participant 6 years, 11 months ago]

I am thinking that the most practical way to get a resolution is to debug a live website that is having issues. At least to find out what is going on.

If debug seemed fine then is is a issue similar to C++ where debug initialises variables but release does not?

I am happy to help in any way I can. I have to go out this evening so my time is now limited. But it seems to me we need to have a debug output of the “walking up the ancestors” to see where it is breaking down for me. Then this is probably the same for others I expect.