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  • kevinjohngallagher
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    An extremely, over exaggerated word that has been used to change the developmental focus of bbpress is Integration.

    You’ve totally got this wrong bobtheman mate.

    WordPress Integration is the most used phrase on this board, and the most used tag. It’s also a feature, listed in the features page. It’s also why alot of people came to this project. If it’s not something you want, cool, but it is something the majority want.

    1. Single Signon

    2. Single Theme

    3. Admin panel they recognise

    This is mostly what people want. We know this thanks to metrics, tags, being here for 2 years, and at least 50% of support requests fall into this category. At the end of the day it comes down to this:

    If you don’t care about WordPress Integration use BBpress 0.9.

    It’s awesome, fast, easy to theme, and miles better than the hatched testing ground for BackPress that 1.0.2 is.

    If you do care about WordPress integration use BBpress 1.0.2

    It’s ridiculously convoluted to set up, with more pitfalls than an Indiana Jones movie, but once working it’s ok.

    If you don’t want BBpress to become a WordPress plugin, buy out Automattic. Or, and this is the biggie, give [the project owner] good objective reasons as to why it would be beneficial for them in the long run. Otherwise, you’re as well adding “Waaaaahhhhhhhhhh >.<” to the end of every sentence. Because that is what it sounds like to [the project owner].

    To end this chapter of confusion and to get bbpress back on trac, on February 14 I propose a IRC meeting which will follow with a blog post of the results with a roadmap for the future

    I know we’re all geeks, but cant we pretend like Feb14th might actually see us doing something else? I’m confident i’ll lose what’s left of my genitalia if I tell my partner that i’m not taking her to Paris so we can do an IRC chat.


    kevinjohngallagher
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    I’m a big fan of people speaking their mind, I probably do it too often, but if we’re being honest, threads like these aren’t going to change anything. Even if you got 90% of the people that are on these boards to all come out and say that they agree with you, nothing will change.

    Can we talk openly about this? It means sharing some hard truths…

    1) There are roughly (roughly), 25 -30 different people that post on these forums every week. I’m sure you’ve noticed its the same folks for the most part over and over. Each of these people (you and I) represent a tiny tiny portion of the BBpress users. Its not that your opinions aren’t valued, it’s just that unless you come up with objective reasons behind your arguments then you’ll never see any changes you want.

    2) You’re not programmers. Harsh, i know. But you’re on a support forum saying that you’re unhappy about proposed changes to free software that you don’t contribute to.

    3) When did private companies start listening to people taking “votes” on their support forums. Oh, that’s right, never.

    4) I’m going to make an assumption here (apologies if wrong), but you’re not project managers or BA’s either. Making BBpress a WordPress plugin (while not something i am happy with at all), makes sense from [the company that owns bbpress] stand point.

    5) Matt, et all, are human and just trying to do their best. If you think they’ve overlooked a point then tell them. But it has to be a point that will make sense to a company like [the one that owns bbpress], and that rarely involves the phrase “i want” or “my vote”.

    Look folks,

    BBpress as a WordPress plugin is not going to come around any time soon. In honesty, it’s not going to be this year. if you don’t want a forum software that is focussed on integration with WordPress that’s cool, that’s a personal preference, but have a look on the tag list on the home page, and see what stands out.

    WordPress integration is the single most talked about issue on the BBpress support forums because it’s the reason that a large percentage of people came to BBpress for.

    We all have a different Wish List of features for this lovely piece of software, but that doesn’t mean that if BBpress doesn’t go our own personal way that it it’s “bbpress back on track”. if we’re honest, BBpress hasn’t been “on track” by it’s own standards for well over a year, but if you’re not contributing code or testing time, then frankly, your opinion is never really going to count for anything unless you back your points up with really really good objective reasons.

    In reply to: Trac Updates for 1.1

    kevinjohngallagher
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    Yo Gautam,

    No tickets with patches should have been changed, 90% sure i checked for them all – really sorry if one slipped through.

    Bugs on the other hand, I was selective about the reality of getting them fixed. Take Ticket 215: Post count bug as an example:

    • Is it a bug? Yes
    • Does it stop BBpress working in any way? No.
    • Will it sap development time from getting this release out the door? Possibly.
    • So I moved it :)

    I’m definitely not in charge around here, so please, if I’ve moved something you (or anyone else) thinks should be in this Milestone, then please move them back. It’s just that smilies, youtube support etc. had been sitting there for weeks on end. With less fluff in trac for each milestone, hopefully we can get more people interested in testing (as one of the major gripes i hear often is “i don’t know where to start”).

    Lets hope we get some of the patches in soon :)


    kevinjohngallagher
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    Hi Matt,

    It really is amazing that you’re helping out with BBpress, it’s clearly something you love as much as we do, and we desperately try not to sound ungrateful.

    The issue is that when there is no project management, then it’s a bit like herding cats (to quote Jane @ WordPress ;-] ). We all know and apprecaite that you’re busy and that BBpress is going to take a back seat sometimes, that’s to be expected mate. But you can’t have it both ways.

    You can’t have a project where the project lead, lead developer, decision maker and talisman disappears for weeks on end; and then also seem unhappy when that doesn’t go down well.

    Can you imagine if you released a version of WordPress without beta testing, bulked up the code by 50%, made it 50% slower, broke most plugins, didn’t have any documentation, had all the development team quit, have all bar 1 moderator quit, then leave it for 8 months not entirely working… What sort of response would there be on the WordPress forums? Maybe a bit Chicken Little.

    Matt, i’m not a popular guy around here, my french/celtic phrasing winds people up when it’s not my intention at all, trult i apologise if I’ve done that with yourself too. But you’re looking at this from someone who’s been really involved since November, while those of us who’ve been here through 0.9 and 1.02 have a different very viewpoint.

    Matt, you have WP3.0, the WPfoundation, maybe BuddyPress1.2, WPcamps, travel, as well as the normal day to day stuff to deal with. Man, we know you’re hella busy and we appreciate your time. But maybe you have to manage expectations a little here. Set some dates, say some hard truths, y’know, actual information “Relax. We’ve done this before” is probably the scariest thing i’ve read on the BBpress forum.

    We greatly apprecaite your time mate, maybe you could apprecaite ours by giving us a heads up every now and then, rather than after the fact. Some clever soul built a blogging platform to make it easy to post info on :)

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    There is no date because it’s hard for me to predict how much time I have

    -Matt

    Versus.

    “We take a page from the world of project management and we make a project plan before we jump into the dev cycle…and set a realistic release date that we stick to”

    https://wordpress.org/development/2009/12/setting-scope/

    Take Care everyone.


    kevinjohngallagher
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    Marius,

    My friend, no-one is attacking you here. You’re not using the default theme, you’re using a modified theme. I have the default theme and it doesn’t have a picture of Micahel Jackson anywhere (that i can see at least).

    Your issue was a CSS issue, because you had placed attached your CSS code to the wrong DIV for what you were wanting to achieve. It’s nothing to do with BBpress, honestly mate, the issue was a CSS issue with CSS code that you added when you didn’t know what you were doing. A CSS website would make a world of difference to you and your knowledge and ability to edit the themes. I’m not saying that to be cocky, i’m saying it to give you the tools to do these things yourself :)

    When Im asking specifically for location of a code, in the DEFAULT THEME that comes with BBPress, the best place to ask is of course BBPress own forum

    That’s the key thing here mate, you were not asking that. You maybe thought you were, but the code that was wrong was in your CSS file, that you added – that’s nothing to do with BBpress.

    Given that it was your 2nd thread and your 4th attempt at asking for this solution in under 24 hours, I tried to help out – i gave you the simplest answer because your understanding of CSS was limited . You didn’t understand the simple solutions presented, that’s your web development knowledge, nothing to do BBpress.

    No-one is paid to be here matey, we’re all doing this because we want to help BBpress grow :) But that doesn’t mean we have to be at your beck and call for real time support, nor does it mean that we have to answer basic web design/development questions that don’t have anything to do with BBpress. I’m going to leave this here, clearly we have different opinions, and that’s cool – but for your sake mate, not mine, learning a bit of Web Development skills will make your BBpress life alot easier.

    Take care :)


    kevinjohngallagher
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    I wish as much effort went into more productive activity

    Like what mate?

    Plugins?

    Themes?

    We’ve been sitting with a semi-functioning release for over 6 months, and there’s a new version coming out at some unknown point in the future, and given the track record, we can’t develop anything for it becasue BBpress releases = break loads of things from before.

    Heck even your single solitary remaining moderator has told people that. (i don’t want to requote chris too much, he’s been a great mod who’s workign his socks off here, and don’t want to back him into a corner).

    With the upmost respect bud, we can only go on what we’re told. And we’re told to check the blog, then we’re told to check the weekly IRC logs, then we’re told to check trac updates, then we’re told to check commits etc etc. Every time someone pulls a “chicken little” the place they’re told to check for updates doesn’t have any, and then they come back a bit more worried.

    We’re not intentionally pulling a “chicken little” every 10 mins matey, we’re just trying to keep up. It takes very little time (thanks to a wonderful blogging platform ;-] ) to post saying “no irc chat for 3 weeks folks”, and the problem is solved.

    Much like spam, it’s best prevented before it sets in, rather than being unhappy about it afterwards. May i suggest that less of the “Wizard of Oz” routine (man behind the curtain saying all is well) might diminish some of the “Chiken Little” routine that seems to irk? Maybe communication could be considered your Akismet :)

    What i’m not sure you get it mate (and you might, so i’ll apologise if you do), that alot of us are in limbo with this. We’re all in a holding pattern waiting for this mythical next release, and man, we want to help. But with no communication, its really hard.

    http://www.dilbert.com/fast/2003-10-12/

    That said, really hope you had a great time on your travels :D


    kevinjohngallagher
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    Marius, i told you what the problem was:

    Your issue has nothing to do with the footer, as it doens’t have any background associated with it. Your image of Michael Jackson is associated with your div with the id of WRAPPER. Your theme, for some reason, has not put the footer inside the wrapper. There is no white block hiding your image when you scroll the bottom, the DIV it’s assocaited with simply stops.

    and I told you how to fix it :

    Just move your footer inside your wrapper and you’ll fix it :)

    I wasn’t being arrogant or mean, i was being honest with you mate, that if you are struggling with this sort of level of web design basics then this forum isn’t the best place for you – for your sake, not for mine :)

    Your post above, like your post yesterday https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/need-help-placing-a-div-somewhere-for-custom-background hasn’t anything to do with BBpress. I’m not saying don’t ask for help, i’m saying that if you were to go to other websites and learn some of the basics of webdesign you’d have more skills to do it yourself – and thats a great feeling :)

    I’m sorry you thought i was being arrogant, i thought i was being honest AND had told you the solution to your problem.


    kevinjohngallagher
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    Marius,

    With all due respect, if you dont know how to make this simple CSS fix, this isn’t the place for you to get help. The issue you’re having isn’t with BBpress.

    I’d strongly suggest that you try one of the CSS websites and play around with your theme to achieve your desired goal. You’ll stumble upon the answer quicker than us explaining the basics of web design step by step :)


    kevinjohngallagher
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    Hi Marius,

    These really aren’t BBpress questions mate, and you’d have alot more success going to a CSS website. That said, I’ll try and help.

    Your issue has nothing to do with the footer, as it doens’t have any background associated with it. Your image of Michael Jackson is associated with your div with the id of WRAPPER. Your theme, for some reason, has not put the footer inside the wrapper. There is no white block hiding your image when you scroll the bottom, the DIV it’s assocaited with simply stops. Just move your footer inside your wrapper and you’ll fix it :)


    kevinjohngallagher
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    “gives the assumption that popular WordPress Plugins that don’t work will in time”

    You know what they say about Assumption…


    kevinjohngallagher
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    Without “concern trolling”, the major issue i have with BBpress is that we have no idea what’s going on most of the time. When we asked what was going on, we were told to read the blog. When the blog goes quiet, we’re told to read the chat logs directly. Now they’ve gone quiet and now we’re told to look at the code being submited.

    It’s really lovely of Chrishajer to post these links, and it’s very insightful (thank you chris), but its also a bit of a nightmare for us not knowing what’s going on.

    Far too many useful bits of information, or worse – announcements, are made halfway down random conversations. BBpress being a WP plugin, was thrown in to an IRC chat via Matt. Obviously, we’re still waiting for that to be posted on the forum, or given it’s own blog post etc. (only been 6 weeks Kev, calm down, only been 6 weeks).

    Look, i’m not moaning, really, i’m having a great day here, but in my opinion there were some issues that plagued Sam’s time here, and i had hoped that some of these were being resolved. Communication is a big one. I wrote in my post: How to help us, help BBpress… last January that the Wizard of Oz treatment was getting us nowhere.

    Well i’ll leave it there, i’m sure i’ll be told to relax soon enough.


    kevinjohngallagher
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    Don’t you just love people that say “Bump” and dont add anything to the conversation?

    I also love it when it’s their only post on the forum ever – way to give back :)

    Deep integration is not supported by automattic, and apparently was never the intention of the BBpress developers. To that end, getting BBpress with a WP “deep integration”, to then call WP plugins is never going to be something that’s going to get any development time or priority.

    I think this is a shame because we could make use of WP plugins that we’re effectively replicating in BBpress, but we shouldn’t be reliant on plugins for layout.

    That said, i wonder if anyone has testing creating a call to a plugin function from inside an added function in the your WP’s theme’s functions.php file?

    To reiterate though, try and avoid WP plugins for theming. What will happen if there is a WP upgrade that breaks the theme?

    Also, every time someone bumps a thread, God kills a kitten. Please think of the kittens.


    kevinjohngallagher
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    Its been a while since i used this plugin, but as i recall it asked an X + Y = question (4+4 = 8).

    Seems to me, as more and more people use this sort of protection, that spambots have become quite intelligent about reading the line before the <input> and seeing if it has a + in it. That seems fairly straightforward to do, i’ve done it myself when accessing a remote site using cURL to grab some data.

    Either way, it’s hardly a “plugin fail”, because the plugin does exactly what its set out to do, not to mention, they could just be simply putting the answer “5” in every unknown field and eventually it would match.

    You ask how is this possible, is it really beyond our imagination that a computer could answer a question about adding one digit to another? The only way to combat spam is to moderate constantly. Akismet, Human Test, Honey Pot and every other tool out there are just tools, they are not solutions. YOU are the solution.


    kevinjohngallagher
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    Paul,

    I know this may be really obvious, and apologies if it is, but PHP’s built in functions for handling json are very much release dependant. There was a large change from php5 to php5.2 as i recall.

    It’s 5.36am here, so you’ll have to forgive me for the lack of links, but i’d do a little googling into that. At the end of the day you either stats a minimum PHP version, or test for the php version and do and if/else.


    kevinjohngallagher
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    Hi Neotoxic,

    No i’m afraid you’ll have to figure out your own SQL script for the users. My code isn’t tested or anything, i’m afraid you’ll have to write teh custom code for your own specific solution yourself. the code i’ve posted above just does 95% of the work for you :)

    In reply to: Email to members

    kevinjohngallagher
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    4 topics below your topic is your answer mate :)

    https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/notify-all-forum-users-of-new-topic


    kevinjohngallagher
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    Depending on how many members you are talking about, or how many time you expect a new post to be on the forum, i would definitely be sceptical of something like this. It’s a massive hark back to the old ways of doing things.

    So my suggestions:

    1) When you make a new post, physically email everyone.

    I’m not sure when e-mail became incredibly difficult to do manually.

    2) If you really want to write a plugin it should go something like:

    function notification_new_post($post_id=0) {
    global $bbdb, $bb_table_prefix, $topic_id, $bb_current_user;

    $all_users = $bbdb->get_results("SELECT ID, user_email FROM $bbdb->users WHERE user_status=0");
    foreach ($all_users as $userdata)
    {
    $message = __("There is a new post on: %1$s nReply by: %2$s nText: %3$s nn%4$s ");
    mail( $userdata->user_email, bb_get_option('name') . ': ' . __('Notification'),
    sprintf( $message, get_topic_title($topic_id), get_user_name($bb_current_user->ID), strip_tags(get_post_text($post_id)), get_topic_link($topic_id) ),
    'From: '.bb_get_option('name').' <'.bb_get_option('from_email').'>'
    );
    } //foreach
    }
    add_action('bb_new_post', 'notification_new_post');

    You may need to edit some of that code, but found that by searing for email notification on this website (props to Thomas Klaiber who’s code i quickly edited). Amazing what searching first does :)

    Again Neotoxic, i strongly suggest against this unless you know for sure that everyone’s going to be ok with getting an email everytime. RSS readers on email clients, phones, browsers etc save so much hassle…

    Take Care

    In reply to: Permission for user

    kevinjohngallagher
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    I’m afraid, to the best of my knowledge, that can’t be done with BBpress as this time.


    kevinjohngallagher
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    The 2 simple solutions would be for the BBpress members to have an RSS feed reader, or you could e-mail them.

    What you’re looking for is a plugin that emails every member of a BBpress forum every time a new topic is started. I doubt anyone’s build anything like that because it would just end up adding to spam (even if it wouldn’t in your particular case).

    In reply to: Download control

    kevinjohngallagher
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    On a forum by forum basis, you can’t I’m afraid

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    kevinjohngallagher
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    Step 1: open google.com

    Step 2: type in ‘bbpress process translation file “.pot” ‘

    Step 3: click on the first link.

    Step 4: do what it says

    Step 5: ???

    Step 6: Profit :)

    And Jongeren Forum, with all due respect, we answer your questions, and you don’t seem happy. We’re not going to do it all for you, this isn’t our job :)

    Maybe next time follow the advice given and also say THANK YOU to people like Olaf that reply, whether you think it’s “not usefull for me” or not. Manners cost nothing :)

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    kevinjohngallagher
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    The entire website?

    So it’s going in an infinte loop?

    Please, be less specific, don’t post any code, oooh and don’t include a screenshot. Guessing is a really worth while use of my time :)

    In reply to: get favorites list

    kevinjohngallagher
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    What error do you get mate?

    :)

    In reply to: get favorites list

    kevinjohngallagher
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    What error do you get mate?

    In reply to: get favorites list

    kevinjohngallagher
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    Two ways:

    1) It’s an array, so just cycle through it and output the bits you want, this will allow you to style it as you please. If you’re unsure of what it returns use: print_r($topics);

    2) Alternatively, you could just copy all 3 lines from the Favourites.php file:

    $topics = get_user_favorites( $user->ID, true );

    $favorites_total = isset($user->favorites) ? count(explode(‘,’, $user->favorites)) : 0;

    bb_load_template( ‘favorites.php’, array(‘favorites_total’) );

    This will output the favourites in the way you’ve described in your template folder.

    ==========================================

    At the end of the day, BBpress has a number of issues, but if it can already do something, all you really need to do is copy and paste the code :)

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