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Just remember that users set tags, and users are notoriously useless.
Especially if your forum / blog is not aimed at technical people (who have, to a certain degree, become used to the idea of tags for cross pollination).
Please, don’t say that I have said things that i have not. Feel free to quote me, but don’t make things up or wrongly generalise and attribute them to me.
That said, i apprecaite you finally getting round to being polite to the people who have helped you out thus far. Finally finding manners to Thank people like John who went out of their way to help you was the decent thing to do
Either way, don’t think it really matters.
Personally i’ve found that pointing my post form towards WP is better because if something is going to change/break in a future version it will happen in WordPress long before bbPress. People are patching/plugins/writing-guides on how ot make bbPress work with WordPress not the other way around, so i stick with the strongest/most stable software as my login base. But really, thats just me being careful; i shouldn’t matter
I say it’s not likely to happen becuase we only have 2 or 3 plugin developers left, and your requirements are very specific. We’ve seen from all the other plugins that you’re unhappy with about how you want something that fits your needs exactly, and you never say please or thank you. I told you days ago where you could get one, and you didn’t like it even though it does everything you said you wanted.
I’m not your enemy mate, everytime you ask for help i step up. You’ve still not thanked me for the code i sent last week to solve your issues you could have googles (they weren’t bbPress issues).
I dont think a simple chatbox is something thats specific to me and my needs alone. I think its a perfectly logical thing to make in context with the philisophy of BBPress.
Cool, then go make it
Ok, i’m coding on my iPhone – expect errors.
function kjg_custom_feed_rewrite($wp_rewrite)
{
$feed_rules = array
(
‘forum/(.+)/(.+)’ => ‘/bbpress_folder/index.php?variable1=’ . $wp_rewrite->preg_index(1) . ‘&variable2=’ . $wp_rewrite->preg_index(2),
);
$wp_rewrite->rules = $feed_rules + $wp_rewrite->rules;
}
add_filter(‘generate_rewrite_rules’, ‘kjg_custom_feed_rewrite’);
function kjg_add_custom_page_variables( $public_query_vars )
{
$public_query_vars[] = ‘variable1’;
return $public_query_vars;
}
add_filter( ‘query_vars’, ‘kjg_add_custom_page_variables’ );
Basically, whenever you try and load “domain.com/forum” the .htaccess file would load wordpress. WordPress then hits it’s own htaccess rules (how it does permalinks etc), which it stores as an array you can manipulate and it then loads the page you tell it with the $_GET variables you can also maipulate. The thing is, WordPress does this AFTER it’s loaded it’s variables and plugins, but obviously before it’s done any form of outputting to the screen… so in theory you could just tell it to load the bbpress index instead, and as it’s already got wp-load.php processed, all of the user-ids/logins/permissions etc should be already generated – not to mention, you could call WP functions etc.
Basically, it’s deep integration but form the WordPress side rather than the bbpress side. There might be some BackPress function un-compatability (i can think of a few right now that would be iffy) – but it basically looking at the problem from a different viewpoint.
Instead of trying to bridge WordPress and bbpress, why not have WordPress load bbPress as a “plugin”, and then we could take advantage of plugins like WP-Role-manager and facebook connect etc.
Ok, my code may be very very wrong, give me a day to hack out something
Can you define what it is you want your chatbox to do please?
As you’ve already said you don’t want a shoutbox, and now you don’t want the above linked AJAX chat. If you gave us strict definitions of what you’re after we could help
Hi Robert,
I’m guessing really but i’d suggest:
in style.css
Line 31:
#header, #posts {
width:760px;
}
should read:
#header, #posts {
width:[input new width];
}
in style.css
Line 45:
#header h1 {
background:url(“images/jillijheader4.jpg”) no-repeat scroll center top #999999;
border-bottom:1px solid #999999;
font-size:2em;
height:182px;
line-height:80px;
width:760px;
}
should read:
#header h1 {
background:url(“images/jillijheader4.jpg”) no-repeat scroll center top #999999;
border-bottom:1px solid #999999;
font-size:2em;
height:182px;
line-height:80px;
width:[input new width];
}
replace [input new width] with either a fixed width (1000px) or a percentage (100%).
Good luck
JimJiber,
I, we, all feel your pain – but you’re confusing two issues here; because you’re viewing bbPress as a WP plugin. It’s not, it’s a standalone forum, and there is a “bridge” that connects the logins/users to wordpress.
1) bbpress is very very simple to set up and use if you have basic technical knowledge (ability to edit a file and FTP).
2) bbPress is not simple to integrate into WordPress.
It is random, annoying, and requires you to know so much it’s unreal, and most of the information you’re meant to know is buried inside forum threads you’ll struggle to find. If you want to stick with it, shoot us over the steps you took, linking which of the guides on here you followed would be great if possible, and we’ll try and sort you out.
The forum appears to be a completely seperate entity to my WP site
It is, and will be.
Seems like no-one can make a decent forum for wordpress.
You’re kinda right. This is actually really good, but WordPress has a tendancy to change it’s securty protocols quite randomly and often. 2.1, 2.5 and 2.7 all had major changes and whenever that comes we’re all playing catch up. Sadly automattic took the decison to integrate bbPress into BackPress and then decided not to integrate WordPress into BackPress, so we’re left in the state of limbo you now see.
this has been a total waste of an afternoonand I needed to vent.
Thats ok, i cant think of one person that has come to bbpress and gotten integration working on their first day, let alone afternoon. Matt (head of automattic) annouced that Integration was the highest priority to get working back in December, but then decided we should work on anonymous posting instead, so we’re all a tad confused.
Before deciding on forum software or swapping to joomla, i’d spent the time doing a bit of research on them all. There are positives and negatives for many of these – but on the plus side you now know the 2nd biggest flaw of bbPress
Hardly intuitive is it?
No, but then it’s not trying to be
My suggestion is to get your forums working first, without trying integration. Then once you know it’s all working you can follow one of the countless integration guides here, and shout us when things go wrong. Sadly, it’s the best that can happen.
Marius-,
I say this as someone who comes across as angry or annoyed or something. You need to take a step back. It’s free software, it’s free support. We’re all trying to help
Maybe say please and thank you. Read what I, and others, take a deep breathe and see that we’re telling you the software’s limitations so that you know them – not to put you off. There are loads of great things you can do with bbPress, but there are also things you can’t. Help us, help you – and when we do, please be polite and thanful.I have said this before, downgrading is not an option.
No-one is suggesting you do
Why even have two versions for download, if you all want us to donwload 0.9?
I don’t care which if them you do download.
Like every bit of software, you get certain features and drawbacks with both options.
Pick one, and accept it’s limitations.
bbPress0.9: Older, way more plugins, lots of support questions already answered, bad admin area.
bbPress1.0: Newer, few plugins, few support questions, nice admin area.
You say backwards compitability never has been a goal. What I fear is that, lets say some time in the future I decide to upgrade to a new version of BBPress. With a completely new theme, and possibly reinstall it. Will I be able to keep the users and posts?
Yes, you will keep your users and posts.
Thats forward compatability, not backward.
Themes, plugins, custom code could stop working. If you don’t like it, don’t upgrade. Loads of people are still on WindowsXP cos it works.
And I have to say, polls, image support and text formatting is standard. Its what everyone has used on forums for ten years. So theres no reason they shouldnt be included as standard, from my point of view.
But bbPress does not have them, and never has had them, and never will have them as standard.
If you want all of those fancy features then you have to choose a different software solution. Thats not me scarying you away, its just being honest.
I know i’ve said this to you over and over again, but there is a difference between “basic” functionailty and “standard” functionality. Basic is what the software needs to actually work, Standard is a perception held by individuals based on what their needs are and the market is.
bbPress doesn’t even meet all of the “basic” requirements yet, so there is no way – no matter how much you cry about it – that any of the “standard” features YOU want are going to be included. Its not going to happen unless you develop it or pay for a developer. I’m in that boat too. We all are. There are things i want bbPress to have because they are standard, but it doesn’t have them and won’t have for a very long time if ever.
So theres no reason they shouldnt be included as standard, from my point of view.
Thats because, you are not listening bro.
1) We have no developer to build them.
2) Even if we had a developer, there are bugs and basic features to code first.
3) Those sorts of features are what plugins are for.
4) If thats not cool with you mate, you’re at the wrong project. Sorry.
Also, please stop banging the drum that BBpress is not ready for use if you have no skills etc. I think you are destroying your userbase by doing this. You are scaring people away, and its not true either.
If it’s not true, then why have you spent the last 2 months on here asking really really really basic web development (non-bbPress) related questions?
https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/how-do-you-make-footer-background-transparent
https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/need-help-placing-a-div-somewhere-for-custom-background
And then complain big time every time you have to edit a file to get things working, even though someone else is telling you what to do.
If someone can’t edit a file and FTP it then they can’t install bbPress. That requires some small amount of technical knowledge – i’m just being honest. I’m not trying to scare people away, but when people think bbPress is as easy as WordPress we get a huge amount of support questions along the lines of “zomg i r installed forum kk and it no work – i give you 2 hour window to look at my forumz and fix it kk now!”. Some people don’t even have the decency to say thanks (*cough*).
Look at: https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/modifying-header-to-display-image-issues#post-64963
Here is someone who has taken on board that he (currently) doesn’t have the required skills to do what he wants in bbPress, and is taking the positive steps to get it sorted. When he/she comes back for help, we’ll be here.
I have pretty much zero skills, and have managed to get a pretty decent looking forum up and running.
Can’t argue with the first part, can’t agree with the second.
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Look, Marius-,
Not one person left on here is part of the bbPress project really. Matt, Sam, Michael, _ck_, etc. All don’t hang around here anymore. If you ask questions, those of us trying to help answer. But all you do is complain that you don’t like the answers, and then ask for more help, then complain etc. etc.
John Hiller has gone WAY out of his way to give you free support for an issue on you are having, again, and you’ve not even had the decency to thank him. I’ve given you countless bits of code, including one 3 days ago, and you never said thanks – just complained that you’d have to do some of the work.
Honestly, i wish for you and your forum all the best. But if you ask a questions, and you don’t like the answers, don’t ask the questions. Because, i’ve given you code, i’ve given you advice, i’ve given you answers – and you’ve never said thanks and are still unhappy. It’s not worth my time mate. You’re simply not listening.
oooh i forgot somethings:
I also have this in my WP-config:
// This is meant to help BBpress
define(‘COOKIE_DOMAIN’, ”);
define(‘COOKIEPATH’, ‘/’);
Again, not totally sure these are neccessary, but once you have something that works you stick with it
