[frooyo]

@Ramoonus

>> “have you asked the maker of the plugin? “

I have and Donncha (SuperCache creator) informed me that he doesn’t use bbPress, so he won’t be porting the plug-in.

@_ck_

Since you’re so adament about how 1.0 is so much slower than 0.9 … and also that you probably understand creating plugins better than anyone else here, except for Sam of course, would you then take on the task of converting Donncha WP Super Cache plug-in for bbPress?

[frooyo]

@Sam

Has any consideration been given to changing how the frontpage displays the “freshness” age.

Right now it appears to be outputted by PHP in a processed format (e.g. “18 minutes ago”).

This is a problem if you attempt to statically cache the front page because the “18 minutes ago” freshness field will remain at that static time until you re-cache the page.

This could easily be adverted if the freshness field was simply the UTC last posted time and simply letting JavaScript to format the freshness into the appropriate format. That way, you can cache statically the front page (since the UTC last post date won’t change) but the page will “appear” dynamically because JavaScript is simply formatting the time according chaning that “18 minutes ago” freshness into the appropriate age.

[frooyo]

@Sam

Any new updates on bbPres 1.0 Release Candidates?

It’s been 4 weeks and I’ve noticed a ton of code check-ins during that time (https://trac.bbpress.org/timeline)

Curious to know when RC2 can be expected.

Thanks man, keep up the awesome work!

[frooyo]

So I just noticed that the Admin panel uses a different stylesheet than the general form style sheet.

As such, I want to report how the Admin CSS is out of alignment for management links.

Screenshot of Admin links out of alignement

[frooyo]

After I created the missing .htaccess file and now using the RC-1 now for about an hour, it works greats.

No problems at all.

Only comments I have, other than say WAHOOOOOOOO is:

1. It’s feels a bit slower than ALPHA 6 but that could just be my imagination. (Hope someone ports WP SuperCache soon for caching non-logged in content … that will make a huge difference simply by having a cached front-page and user topics/posts).

2. The admin panel interface links seems a little out of alignment for Managing User & Topics but then again – I’ve modified the style.css so much – that could just be a result of that.

3. Wish the user Admin Panel had the same clean interface that the Upgrade database schema interface has. But I assume that will all come later, after 1.0.

[frooyo]

I got URLs to work by creating a .htaccess file in my root bbPress directory with the following:

.htaccess

---

Options +MultiViews

Works now, though it appears the rc-1.zip file is missing this file.

[frooyo]

It’s doesn’t appear the .htaccess file was included because none of my URLs are working for forum posts, etc..

Previosuly, I was running ALPHA 6.

To upgrade, what I did was:

1. Copied my theme directory from /old/bb-templates/mytheme ==> /rc-1/bb-templates/mytheme

2. Copied my bb-config.php from /old/bb-config.php ==> /rc-1/bb-config.php

3. Logged into Admin panel, ran the database update. It was successful.

[frooyo]

WAHOO !!!

[frooyo]

@_ck_

Thanks _ck_ for the info.

Just to make sure I understand correctly … ALPHA #7 will be bbPress 1.0 rc1, right.

I’m eagerly awaiting the announcement. Hope to hear it in the next few weeks

[frooyo]

@_ck_

No, I don’t use any plugins.

Also, you said:

>> “Now that there are options to use bbPress 0.9 with WP 2.7 there’s no excuse to use the alphas. “

That seems to imply that you do NOT want people to start using the ALPHA. Why?

Shouldn’t bbPress be pushing developers to start using the ALPHA in non-production settings to hunt down bugs.

[frooyo]

To help get more people actively involved, why doesn’t bbPress host a “bug fixing marathon weekend” and offer a prize to the most bugs fixed within a 48 hour period.

Or a contest to redesign the web site.

Or a contest to improve the documentation.

Just trying to come up with ideas to help.

[frooyo]

@ _ck_

Thanks for the reply.

Nope, I don’t use plugins.

As for that topic, your response makes it sound like a large reason why bbPress is slow to release is due to the fact that plugins will break.

Maybe I’m a little confused here but what’s the problem with that?

Plug-ins are just that, “plugins”. They are not part of the core product.

Just an observation, but it seems to me that something that is not apart of the core product, like plug-ins, shouldn’t slow down the release of the core product.

(Especially plug-ins developed for a non-stable, non-1.0 release)

Just my 2 cents

[frooyo]

@ _ck_

How is this a pointless question?

Simply saying that bbPress 1.0 will be finished “when it’s ready”, is an absolute lack of leadership.

And using Trac’s Roadmap functionality but not updating it to be current, since it states bbPress is 6 months behind, indicates also a lack of commitment by the development team to push this project forward.

Also, don’t you find it interesting that you have had to make the comment before numerous times and say “people, please stop asking for a release date”.

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/eta-of-bbpress-10#post-21764

I’m not even asking for a specific date, just a better understanding of the roadmap. If people are constantly asking you the same question over and over again, isn’t that a signal to you that people are: concerned with the current development state and/or unclear as to what the roadmap current entails.

Unfortunately, not everyone here is a developer. So simply stating “why don’t you help code” is not an option always. The best many of us can do is simply use the ALPHA version and report bugs if we see any … which we do.

P.S.

Also, one thing good about roadmaps is that it holds people accountable. Having a roadmap in Trac that, as you have stated before is “meaningless”

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/yet-another-10-timeline-roadmap-question#post-22122

is a complete embarrassment to this development project. I hate saying that, truly, because I greatly enjoy bbPress.

But if you cannot even update a simply Roadmap, now 6 months out dated, indicates to me that bbPress 1.0 is vaporware … regardless of how many Trac ticket check-ins you have in any given week.

I’m not alone on this, Joel Spolsky include keeping Roadmaps up-to-date on his 12 steps for better coding

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000043.html

[frooyo]

>> “However 0.9 is so fast, it doesn’t even need it in most cases. That will change with bbPress 1.0 which is twice the size of 0.9 and has many more files. It will need a cache for more active sites. “

Hopefully someone will port wp-super-cache sooner than in a “few months”

[frooyo]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe the real underlining question is…

Does bbPress have a future?

The slowness in creating a stable 1.0 product has many of us who love bbPress, and are not technical/programmers, concerned that bbPress will go to the wayside.

[frooyo]

Does anyone mind pointing me to a document highlighting how to convert a WP plugin (wp-super-cache in this case) to bbPress?

For some reason, I was under the impression that any WP plug-ins would work in bbPress; however, when I tried wp-super-cache with bbPress Alpha 6 … and once I enable it, it appears to not be working. No error. Forum still works. Just looks like nothing is happening and no caching occurring.

Thanks in advance.

[frooyo]

@sambauers & @andersson

I believe I have a simple but highly effective fix.

Since the vast majority of forum traffic is for non-logged in user AND, since the only time a forum page changes is if a POST is made … why not implement a very basic disk caching system that does the following pseudo code:

// Front page

---

if (not logged in)

…….. serve disk cache

…………….if (disk cache not present)

……………………generate page and save to disk

else

……..generate page (PHP)

// Topic page

---

if (not logged in)

……..serve disk cache

……..if (disk cache not present)

…………….generate page and save to disk

else

……..generate page (PHP)

// post a comment function

---

delete Topic cache for non-logged in users

delete Front page cache for non-logged in users

The benefit being, now for any non-logged in user – the Front page and individual Topic pages will be cached once some submits a new comment.

And if you are logged in, non of this effects you.

[frooyo]

Not working for me. [1.0-alpha6]

I added this plugin to my ALPHA site in /my-plugins/

I then Activated the plugin via the Admin site.

To the front-page.php template, I added <div class=”nav”><?php front_page_pages(); ?></div> AFTER <?php endforeach; endif; // $topics ?> </table>

In my .htaccess file I added RewriteEngine On RewriteRule ^page/([0-9]+)/?$ /forums/?page=$1 [L,QSA]

But when I go to the front page of my forum, I still don’t see the Pagination.

No errors. Nothing

When I go to my