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Hi Stephen,

thank you for this detailed explanation of the background to this new behavior of bbpress.
I’m with my forum not online yet and still experimenting on my test area. That is why I made a lot of things in the backend, because I would like to get to know everything about bbpress before I go online definitely. And so I have noticed it that the reply-titles are missing. Now I will try out your advice in the future everything if possible only to manage in the front-end.

Thank you for your explanations to this new behavior.

Morgensonne

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@ Robin: I am very grateful for your kind help and that you have taken so much time! Obviously bbpress now works differently with the reply-titles as until 2.5x. For me this is not really good, not very practical. But I also can not forever stuck at version 2.41. Tonight I will take a look at the simple-press forum.

@ Stephen Edgar: Thanks for your notice. It would be great if you knew a solution that bbpress the reply-titles handles again like up to version 2.41. Enjoy your morning coffee!

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Sorry, everything is ok.
I forgot one of the commas…….
Oh these amateurs…….. 🙁

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Ok, suspect that since bbPress authors have change how this works, then that is how the authors want it to work.

That would be very, very sad. Before, it was much better.

But I’ll take a look when I get a moment !

Yes, of course, I thank you very much!!

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I have tested with twentyten-theme and twentyfourteen and without any plugins. The behavior is unchanged, if I use bbpress 2.5x.

What would I like to happen?
I would like that bbpress is running like under version 2.41.
That is:
1. In the dashboard -> replies, the title is automatically written to the title box with the prefix “reply to: .. (topic title) ..”
2. This in turn causes that the permalinks include not only the ID, but – like it is defined in the WP settings – again the full title of the posts.

Why? As I had written:
1. Permalinks only with ID are not good for search engines.
2. The handling of the replies in the admin area (dashboard) is not good. If you have opened a reply, then you can no longer see at what post it belongs, because the title box is empty. How do you personally deal with that?

Do you have the ability to install bbpress version 2.41 in your test area? Then you can watch live, how version 2.41 works and what you see in the dashboard –> replies. (= title is there and permalink with title)

This is, what I want to have back!
Do you know a way to implement this again with version 2.54?

Morgensonne

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Thank you, Robin, for your interim message!

I think we have always spoken of two different things: you about the forum view and I have spoken about the admin area (dashboard). Maybe you have also the possibility to compare the behavior of Version 2.41 and 2.54 according to my screenshots.

I wish you much success and pleasure in your weekend courses and am looking forward to Monday 🙂

Morgensonne

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replies come as

http://www.mysite.com/forums/topic/equipment_for_sale_devon/#post-14239

Okay, I just found out: this is the link from the forum view. This is for me the same way. That’s not the problem. Problem is that the reply-title is no longer inserted automatically. In the admin area!! The field for the title is empty since version 2.5.x.

Please open in your bbpress admin area a reply and look if there is a title inserted (with the prefix “reply to:”) or whether the field for the title is empty like it is in my bbpress admin area.

You can see what I mean in my screenshots.

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replies come as
http://www.mysite.com/forums/topic/equipment_for_sale_devon/#post-14239

Is this the view of the permalinks in the admin area of the bbpress-replies section?

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And my replies come as

http://www.mytestblog.de/blog/foren/reply/140/

Since version 2.5x…….. What’s going on?
Why is in your reply URL “topic” and not “reply”?

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Did you get my screenshots, Robin?

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Thank you!
OK, this ist the TOPIC-permalink. This works for me, too.

How is it with the REPLY-permalink?

Example:
http://www.mysite.com/forums/REPLY/reply-to-equipment-for-sale-devon/

In the Admin Area, there are on the left side “Forums”, “Topics”, “Replies” (I am not sure as it is called in the english version, I use the german version). If you go into the replies and open a reply, then you see at the top the reply-permalink. Either with the reply-title or the ID.

The TOPIC-title is no problem for me, too. But the REPLY-title.
I’m doing a couple of screenshots.

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Hi Robin,

it seems that Stephen had no idea about this.
In the meantime I have heard by John James, that this is not a bug. It would be correct. Replies only ever had titles because WordPress forced all posts to have them until 3.7. I’m confused about that, because at bbpress 2:41 I have reply-titles with WordPress 3.9.

And you had written that your reply-titles are still there and also in the permalink (bbpress 2:54 and twentyten-theme). So I want to ask you to have a second look on it: is it really the REPLY-title in the permalink? Topic-titles I also have in the permalinks, only the replies have no title and the permalink shows only the ID.

My permalinks should contain the post NAME (not the ID) like this:

mytestblog.de/blog/foren/reply/reply-to-this-is-a-test/

bbpress 2.41 does exactly in this way!
Now – with bbpress 2.5x – the permalink is like this:

mytestblog.de/blog/foren/reply/140/

140 is the ID of the topic reply.
I would like to have it again that way as it runs under bbpress version 2.41. 🙁

Why do I want this?
1. permalink without reply-title, but only with reply-ID is not good for search engines.
2. if I open a reply-post in the admin area, there is no title “reply to: …. (topic title) …” (the title bar is empty) and I do not know to which post this reply refers. This is not good for handling the forum in practice.

Robin, would you be so kind to look again to see if it really is th REPLY-title, which you have in your permalink? I can also take a screenshot to illustrate where my problem is.

Thank you very much for your help!
Morgensonne

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Robin, thank you very much for your feedback, so it does not feel so alone. 🙁

I have two test areas at two different hosters. Both WP and bbpress is installed and runs identically with the same theme and – at the moment – without other plugins. BOTH give only up to version 2.41 the reply-title automatically in the title bar. I have deinstalled and installed several times versions after 2.50. My hope was that the problem only occurs with one of the two webservers and so I could find a trace, but the problem is in both installations.

All versions after 2.41 (without plugins and with WP standard theme) have this issue.

It would be great if Stephen would stop by. He would certainly have an idea on what I could still keep trying.

Thanks again for your feedback!!

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Is there any nice guy who likes to help me?
I can use bbpress only up to version 2.41 ………..
Please, give me a response. I do not know what to do now, I’m helpless ………

Robin…. are you still there ??? 🙁

Thank you says
Morgensonne

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Okay, I have a bit more knowledge about the problem.

I’ve been using a lot of time now and went back to my first working bbpress version and have then sequentially tested the following versions.

Result: everything works correctly up to version 2.41!

The title for the replies are there and consequently the permalink is correct, too. From version 2.51 the problem is back! Version 2.50 I could not test because the download link to version 2.5, unfortunately, contains the version 2.54. But I guess that the problem starts with 2.50.

All versions tested in the same configuration (plugins and theme).

Something suspicious: In versions that work correctly in the reply list (admin area) is in the field for the title: (no title). In the versions that have the error: in the reply list (admin area) in the field for the title is always the right title, but not in the post itself, there the line is empty. (Only posts that were written with a faulty version!! The others (up to version 2.41) are fine.)
Very strange.

So now I have version 2.41 back in action and everything running smoothly again.
Am I the only one who has this error?

Then I would stick to version 2.41 for all time ….(???)

Morgensonne

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Hi Robin,

I’ve done everything. Neither a plugin yet the theme makes the problem. I have ALL plugins turned off and tested the Twenty Ten and Twenty Fourteen themes. It is up to bbpress! The real problem why the permalinks contained the ID is, that the title bar of replies is empty. Because there is no title, the ID is taken to the permalink.

BUT so far everything worked fine! The title was always automatically set for each reply.
So there must be something happened during the update.

I can try to reinstall bbpress. BUT: What happens if I uninstall bbpress???
Is everything in the forum lost?

Morgensonne

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Thank you, Robin, for your feedback!!

I did that first. Surely 3 times. It remains as it is: The title is missing (reply to …………) and the permalink does not take the title, but the ID. Probably because there is no title! The field is empty.

I have just tested the following:

1) new WordPress posts: permalink is as it should be.
2) new post in the bbpress forum written in the admin area: permalink is as it should be.
3) new post in bbpress forum written in the forum area: permalink is as it should be.
4) reply to topic written in the forum area: permalink is incorrect (ID) and title is missing (field is empty)

The problem therefore only occurs when replies are written in the forum area!!

I’m getting quite desperate. I have no idea what I should do. 🙁
In the older forum replies all is correct and now suddenly it no longer works.

One more thing, please:
How does the option works in the bbpress-admin:”Create new answer”?
I can not set anywhere, on which post I want to write a reply…. (?)

Thanks for the help!
Morgensonne

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I think that I can move in about 2 or 3 weeks. Until then, it is enough for me to know that I no longer have to worry about – because then I only need to install the plugin 🙂
I very much appreciate your offer. Thank you!!

Morgensonne

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Good news! 🙂

I have just found out that the web server to which I move, if I have my bbPress finished, PHP5.3 has running. So it is unnecessary for me to make changes. I install your plugin when I’m away from the test server. That’s ok.

Thanks for this plugin, Robin – und your great and kind support!!

Morgensonne

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Thank you, Robin.

OK, I would like to customize the line for PHP 5.2.
Where should I add this line?
Sorry, I have no knowledge of PHP code 🙁

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Hi Robin,

sorry that I answer so late! But I found your feedback, unfortunately only at the moment, because I got no mail notification. (though enabled and the last time it worked…..? ……)

Anyway, here’s my answer to your question.
First I had to ask the owner of the web server, because I did not know exactly:
It runs on Unix and PHP 5.

I hope this helps.
Morgensonne

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Robin, hi again 🙂

I’m still working on my new bbPress and now I was looking for a solution to change the ‘freshness’ that bbPress displays to the date of topic. I’m excited because I found your posting here and read that there is a plugin now which does that. How great!!

I’ve installed it right now, but still I have a problem to activate it.
It is the message:

Plugin can not be activated because fatal error.
Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_FUNCTION in …..myTestWP/wp-content/plugins/bbp-last-post/includes/lp-widgets.php on line 224

Do you have an idea, Robin, why it can not be activated at me?
Link unfortunately I have not currently, I’m still on my test server.
Would be glad to hear from you.
Thank you!

Morgensonne

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Thank you, Robin, it works fine.

And by the way I was able to use another helpful tip, namely to hide the search bar. I also prefer to put it in the sidebar.

How beautiful life is for us newbies with the friendley bbPress forum helpers 🙂
Thank you very much!!

Morgensonne

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Thank you very, very much for your friendly help!!
It is also working for me.
I’m happy 🙂

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Hi Lerroy,

what solution did you use that it works for you? I try the same. Do you like to write about how it works for YOU?
Thank you!

Morgensonne