WP: 6.8.1 (latest).
bbPress: 2.6.13 (latest).
bbPress Move Topics 1.1.6 (latest).
bbp style pack: 6.3.9 (latest).
themes: Twenty Fifteen and Twenty Twenty-five.
site: https://hollandnumerics.org.uk

Forum topic contains <TABLE>, <TBODY>, <TR> and <TD> HTML tags.

1. Able to edit title, body, tags in Forum Topic.
2. Clicking [Update] starts update.
3. Edit viewer disappears and Post list appears.
4. Forum Topic is unchanged.
5. No error messages.

Have also tried moving Topic to Page, but this fails to change type.
Creating new Forum Topic with copy of body text also does not complete.

[@hollandnumerics Participant 3 weeks, 3 days ago]

However, in Troubleshooting Mode, updated topic “test 3” is being shown correctly.

Active plugins: bbPress and bbp style pack

[@robin-w Moderator 3 weeks, 3 days ago]

I can’t fix the error until you get your admin emails working !!

so the admin email address in

dashboard>settings>general need to be a valid and working email, you can’t run a site without this working, so I think as a first action you need to fix this.

when you have, come back

[@hollandnumerics Participant 3 weeks, 3 days ago]

But that email address (which is an alias) does work, and has not been changed since it was assigned as the Admin email address in 2015. OK some of the emails from the blog site get stuck in the Sent folder, but I still can read them there.

Does that email address have to match the out-going email address? It doesn’t because my ISP forces me to use a @hollandnumerics.com address for out-going emails

[@robin-w Moderator 3 weeks, 3 days ago]

email does not have to match, but lots of things in between the send and recieve can jink emails they consider spam or suspicious.

So if you are not getting the error emails, can I suggest you install

Check & Log Email – Easy Email Testing & Mail logging

and use this to test emails, and if the site attempts to send an email, the email logs can tell you what it tried to send.

[@hollandnumerics Participant 3 weeks, 3 days ago]

Check Email installed. It defaults to local sendmail, instead of installed Postman SMTP that uses smtp.officce365.com. However:

This test email proves that your WordPress installation at https://hollandnumerics.org.uk can send emails. Sent: Sun, 06 Jul 2025 10:10:50 +0000

[@robin-w Moderator 3 weeks, 3 days ago]

ok, so now you need to generate the ‘critical error’ screen, and the logs should show the email sent

[@hollandnumerics Participant 3 weeks, 3 days ago]

I have caused an updated topic to fail when saving. The “test” topics all state that a critical error has occurred, but no emails are detected.

Now you are a blog member, please feel free to post a new topic

[@robin-w Moderator 3 weeks, 3 days ago]

so no email in the email logs

dashboard>check and log email>email logs

[@hollandnumerics Participant 3 weeks, 3 days ago]

Postman SMTP has its own Email logs, and there were no emails there either.

[@robin-w Moderator 3 weeks, 3 days ago]

ok, so without being able to see errors, I’m not sure I can help further, clearly there is something not working correctly on your site, and without fixing that, I do not know if it is contributing to the other issues you are having.

If you have FTP access, you can change wp-config to log and display errors, there are plenty of articles on the web that can do so, and several plugins that might work.

[@hollandnumerics Participant 3 weeks, 3 days ago]

OK.

Thank you for your help. I’ll report any successes

[@robin-w Moderator 3 weeks, 2 days ago]

do come back if you are able top tell me the error codes, quite happy to try and help further

[@hollandnumerics Participant 3 weeks, 2 days ago]

I have 1 success to report thanks to your WP_DEBUG suggestion:

• There were error messages being generated by bbpress Simple View Counts in debug.log, so I deactivated the plugin, and now the critical error messages are no longer seen when viewing topics.

The saving of updates to large topics containing table tags is still not working.

Not sure if these are relevant, but I’ve seen these messages about null parameters in functions.php:

[06-Jul-2025 14:51:35 UTC] PHP Deprecated:  strpos(): Passing null to parameter #1 ($haystack) of type string is deprecated in /var/www/html/wp-includes/functions.php on line 7360
[06-Jul-2025 14:51:35 UTC] PHP Deprecated:  str_replace(): Passing null to parameter #3 ($subject) of type array|string is deprecated in /var/www/html/wp-includes/functions.php on line 2195

Any assistance will be gratefully received, as my PHP knowledge is limited.

[@robin-w Moderator 3 weeks, 2 days ago]

The saving of updates to large topics containing table tags is still not working.

ok, so now we need to address this.

I’m going to suggest we don’t do troubleshooting mode for the moment, but let’s see what works and doesn’t work in live.

You say ‘large topics containing table tags’ so we need to define this.

so in live can you answer each one of these plaese

1. pure text say ‘hello’ works – yes/no?
2. Pure text but a lot of it works – yes/no?
3. `<table>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td>
hello
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>`
works – yes/no?

4. IF they all work, and please confirm this for each of the above, then can you post an example of what doesn’t work?

[@hollandnumerics Participant 3 weeks, 2 days ago]

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. The HTML in the topic is too large for this forum, and fails to save in a topic AND in a page using Classic Editor

I now suspect this problem is caused by Classic Editor, and not specifically bbPress

[@robin-w Moderator 3 weeks, 2 days ago]

you probably need to increase page size and/or memory size

for memory

Increasing the WordPress memory limit

for page size

https://www.cloudways.com/blog/increase-media-file-maximum-upload-size-in-wordpress/#:~:text=To%20increase%20the%20maximum%20page,upload%20larger%20pages%20or%20files.

[@hollandnumerics Participant 3 weeks, 1 day ago]

I increased the WordPress memory to 256M in wp-config.php, but there was no change.

I tried to increase the page size in wp-config.php too, but I’m not sure it worked.

I’m not going to have access to my WordPress admin screens for a few weeks now, but I’ll get back to you if I have any further news.

Thanks………..Phil

[@robin-w Moderator 3 weeks, 1 day ago]

ok 🙂

[@robin-w Moderator 3 weeks, 1 day ago]

by the way, I tried your long post on my test site, and it worked ok.