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  • @patrick_here

    Participant

    Hello,
    I just installed bbpress on a new website. I have given descriptions (or subtitles) to some of the forums. On the forum index, these descriptions show up in all uppercase (And when I check the code in Firefox Inspector I can see that there isn’t even any styling tag around the descriptions).

    I can’t figure out what the problem is. What is causing this and how should I fix it? Thanks for the help.

    Patrick

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  • @robin-w

    Moderator

    probably theme related – have you a link to an example?

    @patrick_here

    Participant

    @robin-w

    Moderator

    it is caused by this line

    .elementor-kit-26 h1 {
     font-family:"Playfair Display SC", Sans-serif;
    }

    in

    post-26.css

    related to elementor, so may be a setting in that or your theme.

    In essence the Playfair Display SC font is all capitals

    https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Playfair+Display+SC

    so all your headings will be capitals

    @patrick_here

    Participant

    Hmmm… Thanks very much Robin…

    Someone else implemented this website with elementor (free version) …I’ve never worked with Elementor before.

    As best as I can tell, that post-26.css is a generated css file generated under uploads/elementor/css/post-26.css. Perhaps this is really an elementor question…

    In view of the fact that I’m using a shortcode on a page to get my forum index to appear, I’m trying to figure out how to get the forum to appear on the page in a way that will leave me free to style the forum:

    • As it is now the entire forum inherits the elementor styles. (I would need the header and footer from the elementor theme but wouldn’t want the elementor styling in the body where the forum bbPress shortcode is located)
    • A separate problem is that, in at least some cases, it seems that the forum description text itself is not surrounded by any html tag at all so it seems that I would not be able to target it with a specific css selector …it could only inherit styling from an outer selector higher up the chain.

    @robin-w

    Moderator

    agree

    on the title this might work

    .post-285 h1.entry-title {
    	font-family: "Playfair Display", Sans-serif;
    }

    @robin-w

    Moderator

    this might also improve things

    #bbpress-forums {
    	font-family: "c", Sans-serif !important;
    }

    otherwise I see you have style pack installed, so work through the font sections and make them “Playfair Display”, Sans-serif

    @patrick_here

    Participant

    Thanks very much Robin!
    …that suggestion to target #bbpress-forums worked!

    I’m getting a crash course in why some people like Elementor and others don’t. I think I’m in the latter camp.

    🙂

    One final comment: I’m surprised that bbpress code is outputting text as important as the forum description without surrounding it in tags so that it could be specifically targeted by some css.

    @robin-w

    Moderator

    If you mean the title, this is your theme outputting the page title, not bbpress.

    @robin-w

    Moderator

    if you mean elsewhere, come back with an example

    @patrick_here

    Participant

    Here’s what I mean:
    Take a look at https://westseattleblog.com/forum

    Under the “Freebies, Sales, Trades” forum there is a forum description that says:
    “This is also where to list garage/yard sales”

    I wasn’t sure how bbpress intends for users to get a forum description like that. The way I did it was that I noticed that when I “Add New Forum”, I’m in a WordPress interface that’s practically identical to the interface to create a post or page …and the post/page Title becomes the title of the forum. So in the normal text area of the “create post” interface I added the text that I intended for my forum description.

    Perhaps that’s just a “hack” that works but it’s not the intended way to do it, yes? What is the intended way to add a forum description?

    @robin-w

    Moderator

    “This is also where to list garage/yard sales”

    this is in a div

    <div class="bbp-forum-content">This is also where to list garage/yard sales</div>

    or am I misunderstanding ?

    @patrick_here

    Participant

    True…
    …but I don’t know how they did that. If I put my intended forum description into the post text area when creating the forum, it ends up getting outputted without any div and without a tag of any kind.

    @patrick_here

    Participant

    This is the interface I’m talking about. That’s what I see when I click “Add New” [Forum] (with minor differences). The Forum Title gets entered into the “Enter title here” box. I’m saying that any text entered in the large post text area below …ends up showing up as forum description in the Forum index …but it shows up without tags of any kind.

    @robin-w

    Moderator

    sorry, you’ll need to provide an example of

    ends up showing up as forum description in the Forum index …but it shows up without tags of any kind.

    @patrick_here

    Participant

    Okay, go to http://dialogtotransformation.net/forum-beyond-bw/

    …and look only at the forum entitled TEST ENTRY

    …the text below that forum was entered in the “new post” interface. note that there are no tags surrounding it.

    Don’t look at the other forum descriptions. They were entered in the same way but I explicitly added tags myself …the tags were not added by bbpress.

    @patrick_here

    Participant

    UPDATE:
    Robin, I just tested this on a fresh wordpress install (ie: without Elementor) and I see that the tag is there !!!

    So this leads me to believe that Elementor must be stripping the tag.

    I cannot give you a link to this install because it’s on my local workstation (with a LAMP install). The tag I’m seeing at the forum description is: bbp-forum-content

    @robin-w

    Moderator

    ok, if you have ftp capability look in your theme for a folder called bbpress, any changed files might be in there

    @patrick_here

    Participant

    Did you really mean “theme folder”? The theme is “Hello Elementor” and there’s no bbpress folder in there.

    The version of the bbpress plugin is a fresh version that I installed myself this week.

    Other plugins installed (by someone else) on the site are:
    bbp style pack
    WP Forms
    Elementor – Header, Footer & Bocks
    Essential Content types
    Google Analytics for WordPress by MonsterInsights
    Jetpack
    OptinMonster API
    WPForms Lite
    Yoast SEO

    @robin-w

    Moderator

    ok, so take a look at the elementor plugin

    @patrick_here

    Participant

    Yes, I looked at it already. It’s alot of code and I cannot determine where the problem might be coming from. All of the files have the same timestamp however so the files are unchanged.

    @robin-w

    Moderator

    ok, so I can only suggest you do some issue finding

    Themes

    As a test switch to a default theme such as twentyfifteen, and see if this fixes.

    Plugins

    If that doesn’t work, also deactivate all plugins apart from bbpress and see if this fixes. if it does, re-enable one at a time to see which is causing the error.

    If you cannot do this to your site (say because it is live) then use the ‘troubleshooting’ features of this plugin to let you test without affecting other users

    Health Check & Troubleshooting

    Then come back

    @patrick_here

    Participant

    On the fresh wordpress site without Elementor, I added Elementor and changed the page to an elementor page. In that case, Elementor didn’t strip out the tag.

    On the built-up site I disabled all the plugins except Elementor and the tags still do not appear. So perhaps it is a certain setting in Elementor that is causing the problem …not sure. Obviously I can’t state with 100% certainty that Elementor is causing the problem but I’ve spent so much time with this that I cannot continue testing. I’ve decided to just go ahead with the workaround of manually inserting the tags when I create the Forum Description.

    I would definitely avoid Elementor in the future on any site that I’m developing entirely on my own. I feel that for me it adds too much unnecessary complexity – opening the door to bugs that take too long to find.

    @robin-w

    Moderator

    ok, thanks for the update – if you find anything further, do come back

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