[@randomguysays Member 14 years, 2 months ago]

Dear zaerl I appreciate you taking the time to read me the GPL but you seem to be consistently missing the point. I’ve already chosen my software so the only purpose of this thread is to help bbPress and as such I think it’s best to just drop this argument and let the rest of us discuss the situation. Thank you for your time.

Briian I haven’t tried Simple:Press and up until now I hadn’t even heard of it, but it’s good to know that it’s out there.

[@randomguysays Member 14 years, 2 months ago]

Dear zaerl I appreciate you taking the time to read me the GPL but you seem to be consistently missing the point. I’ve already chosen my software so the only purpose of this thread is to help bbPress and as such I think it’s best to just drop this argument and let the rest of us discuss the situation. Thank you for your time.

Briian I haven’t tried Simple:Press and up until now I hadn’t even heard of it, but it’s good to know that it’s out there.

[@randomguysays Member 14 years, 2 months ago]

I understand what you’re saying. But like I said, these are basic forum elements that are missing – for instance, if you have more than 10 topics, by default your forum is now 2 pages long as opposed to giving the option to choose what’s visible so you can prevent this problem from happening the way other bulletin boards do – without having to edit code. Polls and the like are also standard forum material that are absent with bbPress. As I’ve said before, I understand the premise of the bbPress software – less code is more. And to a degree, I agree with that, where the ability to customize the software’s appearance to suit almost anything is a huge reason why I considered it. But as Kawauso said, even if the bbPress team made their own optional plugins supporting these basic features (again e.g. polls), at least we wouldn’t have to worry about them losing support.

And rjeevan, you’re right, there’s always a risk. Say I install bbPress and one day they stop development. I already have the risk of whether or not a plugin providing a basic accustomed feature will just get discontinued one day, now I have to worry about losing the entire forums too. You’re argueing that there’s always risk, but missing the fact that with software like bbPress (and to a lesser extent, phpbb) there’s more risk. Things like this are in my opinion what’s holding open source software back, when Kawauso provided a simple solution that could in turn please everyone (provided the plugins are developed and maintained by their respectable counterparts).

Ben – For the record, you not reading the EULA on any forum you joined is exactly why an EULA is needed.

[@randomguysays Member 14 years, 2 months ago]

I understand what you’re saying. But like I said, these are basic forum elements that are missing – for instance, if you have more than 10 topics, by default your forum is now 2 pages long as opposed to giving the option to choose what’s visible so you can prevent this problem from happening the way other bulletin boards do – without having to edit code. Polls and the like are also standard forum material that are absent with bbPress. As I’ve said before, I understand the premise of the bbPress software – less code is more. And to a degree, I agree with that, where the ability to customize the software’s appearance to suit almost anything is a huge reason why I considered it. But as Kawauso said, even if the bbPress team made their own optional plugins supporting these basic features (again e.g. polls), at least we wouldn’t have to worry about them losing support.

And rjeevan, you’re right, there’s always a risk. Say I install bbPress and one day they stop development. I already have the risk of whether or not a plugin providing a basic accustomed feature will just get discontinued one day, now I have to worry about losing the entire forums too. You’re argueing that there’s always risk, but missing the fact that with software like bbPress (and to a lesser extent, phpbb) there’s more risk. Things like this are in my opinion what’s holding open source software back, when Kawauso provided a simple solution that could in turn please everyone (provided the plugins are developed and maintained by their respectable counterparts).

Ben – For the record, you not reading the EULA on any forum you joined is exactly why an EULA is needed.

[@randomguysays Member 14 years, 2 months ago]

Dear zaerl,

The purpose of this thread was to explain why I wasn’t choosing bbPress. Your defense of bbPress being what it is was completely moot as you act as if I was unaware of other forum software after specifically mentioning numerous times the differences between them. Your reply to the original post wasn’t exactly, “productive” so much as it was pointing out the obvious after clearly missing the point. That is, if you have infact read the entire post as you now claim to have done.

Allow me to make an analogy of my own: You’re like a child that feels the need to defend something purely based on emotional attachment rather than utilizing the information put before you. Instead of providing something beneficial to the community – i.e. a thread such as this one, you’d rather spend your time repeating the idiom, “you get what you pay for” as if it held weight in your arguement.

[@randomguysays Member 14 years, 2 months ago]

Dear zaerl,

The purpose of this thread was to explain why I wasn’t choosing bbPress. Your defense of bbPress being what it is was completely moot as you act as if I was unaware of other forum software after specifically mentioning numerous times the differences between them. Your reply to the original post wasn’t exactly, “productive” so much as it was pointing out the obvious after clearly missing the point. That is, if you have infact read the entire post as you now claim to have done.

Allow me to make an analogy of my own: You’re like a child that feels the need to defend something purely based on emotional attachment rather than utilizing the information put before you. Instead of providing something beneficial to the community – i.e. a thread such as this one, you’d rather spend your time repeating the idiom, “you get what you pay for” as if it held weight in your arguement.

[@randomguysays Member 14 years, 2 months ago]

Exactly. And zaerl is the perfect example of what happens when you skim through something instead of actually reading it. There’s a reason it’s lengthy, so next time read the whole thing before complaining about it.

[@randomguysays Member 14 years, 2 months ago]

Exactly. And zaerl is the perfect example of what happens when you skim through something instead of actually reading it. There’s a reason it’s lengthy, so next time read the whole thing before complaining about it.