http://bbpress.org/forums/ bbPress support forums Tag: jQuery en Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:42:51 +0000 http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/jquery-113-is-out-will-it-be-shipped-with-the-next-bbpress-release#post-15275 Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:46:33 +0000 Covi 15275@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Woot for JQuery, I love this framework ^^!<br /> U have prototype+SAU with JQuery in half the size.</p> <p>Bump for this trac ticket. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/now-that-interface-is-dead#post-13664 Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:14:56 +0000 _ck_ 13664@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>It's fairly easy to test loading/decoding times using firefox+fasterfox or firebug but there are plenty of studies around the web if you want nitty-gritty details:</p> <p>a quick search:<br /> <a href="http://batiste.dosimple.ch/blog/2007-07-02-1/" rel="nofollow">http://batiste.dosimple.ch/blog/2007-07-02-1/</a><br /> <a href="http://ejohn.org/blog/library-loading-speed/" rel="nofollow">http://ejohn.org/blog/library-loading-speed/</a><br /> <a href="http://jst.pbwiki.com/summary.php" rel="nofollow">http://jst.pbwiki.com/summary.php</a><br /> <a href="http://www.julienlecomte.net/blog/2007/08/13/" rel="nofollow">http://www.julienlecomte.net/blog/2007/08/13/</a></p> <p>jquery with simple whitespace removal and variable name shrinking, *not* actual compression, sent via a server with proper gzip support (mod_gzip, apache2, litespeed, etc) is always fastest. Packed is always the worst. Not only that, packed has to be unpacked for EVERY page load. It's never ready to run. So it uses more browser memory, and has a delay *every* time.</p> <p>By the way, what does jquery actually do within bbpress's topics for regular users? I don't get it, there's no javascript actions. bbpress used to have ajax posting but that was removed a long time ago (it should come back sometime...)</p> <p>If you absolutely must distribute bbpress (and wordpress) with jquery in a more compressed form, please use the jsmin version but definitely not the packed version. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/now-that-interface-is-dead#post-13662 Fri, 08 Feb 2008 13:27:43 +0000 sambauers 13662@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>We're in the process of writing out Prototype. Can you give us some links to the discussions you mentioned about packed JS. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/now-that-interface-is-dead#post-13658 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:24:58 +0000 _ck_ 13658@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>I noticed that the trunk (well at least 1075) is loading both jquery.js and prototype.js </p> <p>Can't prototype.js be completely depricated in the trunk?<br /> Is anything still using it or can I safely disable the 50k download it causes for each new visitor?</p> <p>Oh, also, don't use the packed version of jquery. It may look nice at 30k but you can literally see the browser pause for a second or two while it unpacks it - for EVERY single page load. My topic load times go from 1 second to 4 seconds when using jquery packed, but back to 1.5 seconds for the unpacked version.</p> <p> If you use the unpacked version (however scary at 90k in size these days) it never has to unpack and most servers that are properly configured will use gzip on the transfer anyway, so it's back to 30k for the transfer and instantly ready for use. There is a huge discussion about this on ajaxian and elsewhere and I still don't see why people fall for the packed "trick". In fact the authors keep trying to come up with ways to make it seem smaller but that only uses slower decompression routines. It's silliness. They should just break it up into subset libraries. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/now-that-interface-is-dead#post-11885 Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:02:11 +0000 fel64 11885@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>It seems to have a direct counterpart: <a href="http://docs.jquery.com/UI/Sortables" rel="nofollow">http://docs.jquery.com/UI/Sortables</a></p> <p>It sounds good to me, Sam. Getting rid of Prototype would really reduce the size to download and push people into developing with jQuery.</p> <p>&gt; I *still* find it hilarious that forum software uses a mailing list.<br /> Yes, yes. You've said that several times now. It's *really* not relevant. Please don't spam topics. If you want to discuss this, start a new topic or a new thread on the mailing list. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/now-that-interface-is-dead#post-11884 Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:11:10 +0000 sambauers 11884@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>All we use from the Interface library is "Sortables":</p> <p><a href="http://interface.eyecon.ro/docs/sort" rel="nofollow">http://interface.eyecon.ro/docs/sort</a></p> <p>This is probably easily replaceable by the jQuery UI counterpart.</p> <p>We have some other priorities first though, I propose the following path:</p> <p>1. Upgrade to jQuery 1.2.1<br /> 2. Remove Prototype JS and replace with jQuery<br /> 3. Move accross to jQuery UI</p> <p>Thoughts? </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/now-that-interface-is-dead#post-11883 Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:58:25 +0000 sambauers 11883@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>BTW, we still only run jQuery 1.1.4 and jQuery UI requires 1.2.1 </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/now-that-interface-is-dead#post-11880 Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:41:29 +0000 sambauers 11880@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>&gt; why is this forum here anyway?</p> <p>Support... :)</p> <p>The mailing list has less non-dev chatter. In fact it has none, so if people post dev related stuff there, they are more likely to get noticed. Most of the traffic here is community support - high quality community support I might add - but not generally stuff that directly relates to development of the codebase.</p> <p>As for the question about jQuery UI, I guess we'll move if there is a compelling reason. I'm sure there could be, and if you put a case either here or on the dev mailing list we can discuss it further. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/now-that-interface-is-dead#post-11878 Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:58:22 +0000 Null 11878@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Indeed, if the devs aren't reading this and only using the mailinglist, why is this forum here anyway? </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/now-that-interface-is-dead#post-11876 Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:04:58 +0000 _ck_ 11876@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>I *still* find it hilarious that forum software uses a mailing list.</p> <p>Developers should use the product they develop!</p> <p>Email lists are so 1990's</p> <p>We should have a sub-forum here or if they aren't willing I'd be happy to host on bbshowcase </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/now-that-interface-is-dead#post-11875 Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:24:55 +0000 fel64 11875@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Why don't you try the bbDev mailing list? </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/now-that-interface-is-dead#post-11871 Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:56:13 +0000 Null 11871@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Well, interface is dead. It will not be developed further. Instead they have created jQuery UI and replaces interface.</p> <p>My question, bbPress uses the interface libary (which part of bbPress uses it anyway?), will it be dropped and be replaced with jQuery UI?</p> <p>Though UI is still a bit buggy, it is going to replace interface.</p> <p>More info:<br /> <a href="http://www.jquery.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.jquery.com</a><br /> <a href="http://ui.jquery.com" rel="nofollow">http://ui.jquery.com</a> </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/jquery-113-is-out-will-it-be-shipped-with-the-next-bbpress-release#post-10477 Sat, 25 Aug 2007 06:58:32 +0000 _ck_ 10477@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>They are starting to bloat, now nearly 66k<br /> I wonder if 1.2 will break 70k. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/jquery-113-is-out-will-it-be-shipped-with-the-next-bbpress-release#post-10470 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:17:02 +0000 Null 10470@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>"We’re pleased to announce the latest release of jQuery: jQuery 1.1.4. Barring any horrible mistakes, this release will be the last of the 1.1.x branch - leading us up to the release of jQuery 1.2 in September."</p> <p>New trac made for updating jQuery </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/jquery-113-is-out-will-it-be-shipped-with-the-next-bbpress-release#post-10460 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:37:06 +0000 Null 10460@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>I think they are, the also switching enirely to jQuery with wordPress (I believe). I also think it's better to switch and ditch prototype. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/jquery-113-is-out-will-it-be-shipped-with-the-next-bbpress-release#post-10454 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 05:16:36 +0000 _ck_ 10454@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>jQuery is really nearly 60k - if you use the 20k version it has to unpack itself on the visitors broswer everytime a page is loaded. Better to use unpacked version and gzip web compression instead.</p> <p>It's the same size as prototype but smaller in use when you consider prototype needs other libraries to do other functions that jquery has built in.</p> <p>When again is bbPress switching to jQuery?<br /> Or is this just a rumour?</p> <p>Apparently WordPress has ditched the last scraps of prototype from the admin panel this very week:<br /> <a href="http://trac.wordpress.org/ticket/3824#comment:25" rel="nofollow">http://trac.wordpress.org/ticket/3824#comment:25</a> </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/bbmenu-20-alpha-help-needed-kinda-advanced#post-10249 Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:07:11 +0000 sambauers 10249@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Sorry, I don't grok jQuery. I prefer prototype. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/bbmenu-20-alpha-help-needed-kinda-advanced#post-10246 Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:37:56 +0000 Null 10246@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Well I have read and searched many articles to fix my issue, but still no luck. I have problems uploading the order of the lists when you press submit using bbmenu.</p> <p>I know I have to use the serialize option from interface (jQuery), the question only is HOW? How do I get the order updated using it?</p> <p>Some stuff I've read:<br /> SortSerialize</p> <p>This function returns the hash and an object (can be used as arguments for $.post) for every sortables in the page or specific sortables. The hash is based on the 'id' attributes of container and items. </p> <p>Code sample:<br /> <pre><code>serial = $.SortSerialize(&#39;sortable1&#39;); alert(serial.hash);</code></pre> <p>And some interesting stuff here:<br /> <pre><code>The save button function uses the SortSerialize function and some regExp to get a comma-delimited list of the movie IDs and sends it to a generic webservice: $(&quot;[EMAIL PROTECTED]&quot;).click(function(){ var serial = $.SortSerialize(); //alert( serial ); var idList = serial.hash.replace(/sortableList\[\]=/gi,&#39;&#39;).replace(/ \&#38;/g,&#39;,&#39;); //alert( idList ); var collectionId = new String( $(&quot;[EMAIL PROTECTED] $=hiddenCollectionId]&quot;).val() ); if (collectionId != &quot;undefined&quot;) { $.ajax({ type: &quot;GET&quot;, url: &quot;Handlers/Movies.ashx&quot;, dataType: &quot;html&quot;, data: &quot;action=savecollection&#38;overwrite=true&#38;collectionId=&quot; + collectionId + &quot;&#38;iList=&quot; + idList, success: function(msg){ $(&quot;span#updatemsg&quot;).html( msg ); } }); } return false; });</code></pre> <p>(cool: <code>$.ajax</code> is included in jQuery?)</p> <p>Any 1 can help me figure this out? The jQuery forum (google groups) is just too sucky (no post appears when I want to add my question) to get any help from.</p> <p>To see what I have now download:<br /> <a href="http://www.sourceskins.com/bbmenu2.0alpha.zip" rel="nofollow">http://www.sourceskins.com/bbmenu2.0alpha.zip</a></p> <p>How to use this Alpha build?<br /> You MUST have bbmenu 1.2 installed. When installed and running succesfull, deactiate the plugin. Now upload this alpha build and activate it. You can now drag and drop the menu tabs (using jQuery yeah), but saving wont work (the save button is "empty").</p> <p>Thx for the help </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/jquery-113-is-out-will-it-be-shipped-with-the-next-bbpress-release#post-8754 Sun, 08 Jul 2007 00:50:05 +0000 sambauers 8754@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>There are 150+ changes from jQuery 1.1.2 t0 1.1.3.1 </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/jquery-113-is-out-will-it-be-shipped-with-the-next-bbpress-release#post-8704 Wed, 04 Jul 2007 20:20:30 +0000 Null 8704@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Added also as trac </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/jquery-113-is-out-will-it-be-shipped-with-the-next-bbpress-release#post-8695 Wed, 04 Jul 2007 16:43:38 +0000 Trent 8695@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Good question Null. Post it to the devlist!</p> <p>Trent </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/jquery-113-is-out-will-it-be-shipped-with-the-next-bbpress-release#post-8677 Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:33:34 +0000 Null 8677@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Well jQuery 1.1.3 is out. Will it be shipped with the next bbPress release? jQuery 1.1.3 is 800%+ Faster, still 20KB and a lot of bug fixes.</p> <p>_Null </p>