http://bbpress.org/forums/ bbPress Support Forums Tag: codex en Fri, 09 Jan 2009 03:17:17 +0000 http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/constructive-criticism-bbpresss-kryptonite#post-22814 Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:29:51 +0000 ganzua 22814@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <blockquote><p>This will never happen because it's physically impossible as the code is designed.</p></blockquote> <p>Ok :) then the plugin will have to put wp inside bbpress but I still think that it will be a bbpress plugin. </p> <p>I even could think in another solution; turning wp comment system into a forum. You only had to allow all members to post in the wp blog, make a custom category for them and a custom template for that category. There would be no front-page though. </p> <p>BTW, _ck_, could you please tell us how did you add pagination to front-page latest posts in your bbpress showcase? :) </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/constructive-criticism-bbpresss-kryptonite#post-22811 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:59:29 +0000 _ck_ 22811@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <blockquote><p> Another thing that I believe it is that sooner or later bbpress will have a wp plugin version or that it will be a plugin bridge to put it inside of wordpress.</p> </blockquote> <p>This will never happen because it's physically impossible as the code is designed. Also the deep integration would use so many resources that a busy forum will get you kicked off of most shared hosts. bbPress 1.0 + WordPress 2.7 running at the same time with deep integration and several plugins is over 1 megabyte of code PER INSTANCE (per user visiting, per page load). </p> <p>This is why I always say don't deeply integrate.</p> <p>However when WordPress eventually switches to the backpress core (think version 3.5 perhaps?) it will be easier to have them deeply integrated without so much excessive resource use. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/constructive-criticism-bbpresss-kryptonite#post-22794 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:00:40 +0000 ganzua 22794@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>I understand famous point of view because I was there too. I'm pretty sure that sooner or later it will be a plugin to give bbpress all mainstream forums features. </p> <p>Another thing that I believe it is that sooner or later bbpress will have a wp plugin version or that it will be a plugin bridge to put it inside of wordpress. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/constructive-criticism-bbpresss-kryptonite#post-22793 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:59:45 +0000 chrishajer 22793@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>It's interesting to me when people say "absolutely essential" in regards to software.<br /> <a href="http://www.37signals.com/svn/archives2/the_top_5_red_flags_of_software_development.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.37signals.com/svn/archives2/the_top_5_red_flags_of_software_development.php</a></p> <p>The functionality is available in a plugin, it's just not built into bbPress. bbPress' philosophy is to leave stuff like that out of the core, and I'm glad for that. I don't need it. If you do need it, install a plugin. Or, if you disagree with the philosophy, you're free to install other forum software that more closely aligns with your needs. </p> <p>Now, if we want to talk about the lack of documentation, telling you how to do all these things with bbPress, well, that's a whole different story. I've heard before that there probably won't be much documentation before version 1 is released. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/constructive-criticism-bbpresss-kryptonite#post-22789 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:55:01 +0000 trex33 22789@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>famous, I agree with you. The vast majority of users have no idea how to use RSS. Email notification is absolutely essential. Do we really expect users to check a forum on daily basis for responses? It would be wonderful if they did, but reality says otherwise. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/constructive-criticism-bbpresss-kryptonite#post-22785 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:41:35 +0000 chrishajer 22785@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>That is a really poor analogy. This isn't Slashdot, so we don't really <strong>need</strong> another car analogy, but, here's one I think is more applicable:</p> <p>It's like creating a car that is beautiful, sleek and fast, but deciding up front that things like tinted windows, remote start and stainless tips on the mufflers should be possible, but will be supplied by the aftermarket, not delivered with the new car. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/constructive-criticism-bbpresss-kryptonite#post-22782 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:25:31 +0000 famous 22782@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>I totally agree with the whole lightweight approach, but it seems as though creating a forum without:</p> <p><a href="http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/subscribe-to-topic/" rel="nofollow">http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/subscribe-to-topic/</a></p> <p>is like creating a car that is beautiful, sleek and fast, but forgetting to put the steering wheel in... Screwed up analogy, but you get the point.<br /> Don't get me wrong though I am still amazed at open source programs, and especially BB, Buddy and Word. Love um and thank everyone who has contributed! </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/constructive-criticism-bbpresss-kryptonite#post-22773 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:48:00 +0000 ganzua 22773@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <blockquote><p>How about <a href="http://bbpulp.org/" rel="nofollow">http://bbpulp.org/</a></p></blockquote> <p>Yes :) It would be very nice. I wonder why Matt didn't send some resources to bbpress. Wp + bbpress + the buddypress thing... it would be the most powerful cms so far. </p> <p>Instead, the core of wp is being loaded all the time with stuff that you need to block installing new plugins :s </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/constructive-criticism-bbpresss-kryptonite#post-22772 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:36:57 +0000 chrishajer 22772@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>How about <a href="http://bbpulp.org/" rel="nofollow">http://bbpulp.org/</a></p> <p>That was Sam's project before going to work at Automattic.<br /> <a href="http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/list-of-hooksactions#post-22509" rel="nofollow">http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/list-of-hooksactions#post-22509</a> </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/constructive-criticism-bbpresss-kryptonite#post-22765 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:34:27 +0000 Ipstenu 22765@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <blockquote><p>Perhaps the problem is the lack of a codex where you can find out how to add things-&gt; do you want email notification? add this plugin.</p></blockquote> <p>You know, that would be nice. If we could all (or maybe some more of us testers) could have codex access. The WP codex actually is editable by anyone. If BB's was as well, we could all start helping improve documentation. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/constructive-criticism-bbpresss-kryptonite#post-22762 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:18:52 +0000 ganzua 22762@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Sometime ago I used to think the same, bbpress is too light but when it comes to integrate with wordpress and after having tried another option like simple-forum, I prefer a light core. </p> <p>Perhaps the problem is the lack of a codex where you can find out how to add things-&gt; do you want email notification? add this plugin.</p> <p>This should be my only concern so far along with some parts of the core that should be in the template folder. There is stuff in functions.bb-template.php and I recently found more in functions.bb-core.php . </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/constructive-criticism-bbpresss-kryptonite#post-22759 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:56:50 +0000 chrishajer 22759@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p><a href="http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/bbpress-versus-punbb#post-13113" rel="nofollow">http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/bbpress-versus-punbb#post-13113</a></p> <p>There are plugins for this already, though:<br /> <a href="http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/subscribe-to-topic/" rel="nofollow">http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/subscribe-to-topic/</a></p> <p>This one is much older:<br /> <a href="http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/post-notification/" rel="nofollow">http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/post-notification/</a> </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/constructive-criticism-bbpresss-kryptonite#post-22752 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 08:24:41 +0000 johnjamesjacoby 22752@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Hahah... Well, the idea behind bbPress is not to install things like this within the core. This way forum administrators aren't bogged down with the extra weight of a series of functions that they never intend to use; a less is more approach.</p> <p>There is also a plug-in that provides this exact functionality in the extend area. ;) </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/constructive-criticism-bbpresss-kryptonite#post-22748 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:23:50 +0000 famous 22748@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Why doesn't bbPress incorporate email notifications? Isn't that a no brainer, how else is a person notified of changes to their topic? RSS VS eMail, outcome, eMail wins--right? Not everyone is a techie type of person. They post their questions and if email is not setup they won't ever know what the answer was?<br /> vbulletin will always be tops if these issues are not dealt with, right?</p> <p>I am an outsider please put down the stones :) I am just curious... </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/10-development-plan#post-17227 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:00:08 +0000 _ck_ 17227@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>I suspect most of the efforts are probably going into BackPress so they can get TalkPress going (the wordpress.com version of bbpress). bbPress is benefiting from the work but I doubt we'll see the resources you are requesting anytime this year (at least not until 1.0 is out)</p> <p>The trac roadmap is a (very limited) resource you can use as a reference, sorry that's all I can think of:<br /> <a href="http://trac.bbpress.org/roadmap" rel="nofollow">http://trac.bbpress.org/roadmap</a> </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/10-development-plan#post-16105 Fri, 09 May 2008 21:37:05 +0000 bryan868 16105@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Is there a version 1.0 development plan anywhere? I'm curious what new features we'll be seeing in bbPress. </p> <p>Additionally, are there plans to update the web site design (like wordpress.org) and add a Codex? </p> <p>That "future of bbpress" announcement in January was very exciting, but it doesn't seem like much as happen since then. Other than the WP 2.5 integration of course, which is great don't get me wrong. </p>