http://bbpress.org/forums/ bbPress Support Forums Tag: bb_mail en Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:54:50 +0000 http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/windows-apache2php526mysql5130#post-21907 Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:10:36 +0000 iservers 21907@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Yes. What was I thinking?!? Unlike php.ini, the value can be specified in an optional bbPress configuration field (visible if SMTP is in use?) and set from a script, handling shared hosting environments as well.</p> <p>Elegant solution. No plugin required. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/windows-apache2php526mysql5130#post-21831 Wed, 17 Dec 2008 04:25:59 +0000 sambauers 21831@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>OK, so should we manually set "sendmail_from"...</p> <pre><code>ini_set( &#39;sendmail_from&#39;, &#39;me@example.com&#39; );</code></pre> <p>Which only affects Windows servers anyway I believe. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/windows-apache2php526mysql5130#post-21785 Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:16:54 +0000 iservers 21785@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>1.0-alpha has the same issue, despite the heroic attempts made to scrub the mail headers. I would have done this sooner but I tend to avoid alphas, especially when I am new to a system.</p> <p>Let me try to summarize again, hopefully more clearly, for future readers. The PHP mail() function (in Windows, and without 'sendmail_from' being set in php.ini) overloads the meaning of the 'From:' header argument to include the SMTP 'MAIL FROM:' command value (the one sent over the socket to the SMTP server) in addition to the normal meaning of the header: the email message body 'From:' header (the one that most people think of -- the one displayed in the headers of messages in your email client that frequently includes a textual name as well as an email address).</p> <p>Not only is the nature of this issue obscure (two meanings for seemingly the same header), but it is further muddied by the behaviour of PHP mail() on different platforms (Windows and non-Windows) and within Windows itself (with and without 'sendmail_from' being set in php.ini). The obscure and incomplete Note in the PHP mail() documentation does not help matters either.</p> <p>So, without either PHP mail() changing (seems unlikely as this issue has existed for years) or without specific knowledge of Windows being added to clients (cough), the solutions are: 1) if PHP is under your control, set the 'sendmail_from' variable (server-wide) in php.ini (and it will be used as the value for the SMTP 'MAIL FROM:' command), or 2) if the client supports SMTP directly (bbPress does so with a plugin), use it, specifying two values for the 'From' header (the SMTP value must be a simple email address such as "me@example.com" while the other value may include a textual name and an email address, such as "Myself &lt;me@example.com&gt;". </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/windows-apache2php526mysql5130#post-21761 Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:35:25 +0000 sambauers 21761@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>@iservers</p> <p>Well, that's different... :)</p> <p>But I just realised you are using bbPress 0.9 - the bb_mail() function has been replaced in 1.0-alpha with one more like wp_mail() in WordPress.</p> <p>It was replaced in part because people had problems sending from Windows environments. You have probably just pinpointed the cause of that. Just a few months too late unfortunately!</p> <p>For now I would just hack the core of 0.9 if I were you - it is unlikely to see any more updates. The replacement function in 1.0 should take care of this, although I would appreciate it if you could test 1.0-alpha for the same problem if you have some time. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/windows-apache2php526mysql5130#post-21726 Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:40:03 +0000 iservers 21726@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>I see. So the preferred solution is to route anyone who wishes to use SMTP with bbPress, and is not happy with the default PHP behaviour, to use the SMTP plugin. Fair enough.</p> <p>There is another solution for Windows SMTP systems for those who control PHP; live with setting 'sendmail_from' server-wide in php.ini. This overrides the value passed to the mail() function 'From:' header argument for use with the SMTP 'MAIL FROM:' command (where the problem lies), but retains that value for use with the mail message body 'From:' header (where a complete textual name may be used).</p> <p>BTW, the reason that the (SMTP) MTA on Windows rejects the email address is not due to the MTA, but due to PHP on Windows:<br /> <a href="http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.mail.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.mail.php</a><br /> A long-standing discussion is here:<br /> <a href="http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=28038" rel="nofollow">http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=28038</a></p> <p>The current value for the PHP mail() function 'From:' header ("User name" &lt;uname@domain.com&gt;") is an RFC2822 compliant format suitable for parsing by a library (like PHP mail()) which *should* generate separate strings for SMTP (the 'MAIL FROM:' command, which must be RFC2821 compliant) and the message body (the 'From:' header field which can be RFC2822 compliant). RFC2821 format (user@domain.com or &lt;user@domain.com&gt;) differs from RFC2822 format. PHP mail() on Windows does not do this translation. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/windows-apache2php526mysql5130#post-21690 Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:23:31 +0000 sambauers 21690@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>PHP mail() only uses SMTP when PHP has been directed to use an MTA by default like in your case. There are plenty of situations where this isn't the case, like on a lot of shared hosting services. In these cases the only way to send mail is to programmatically connect to an SMTP server. This is possible in 1.0-alpha versions using the plugin that chrishajer pointed out.</p> <p>I wish it was as easy as changing that one line, believe me. Also, if your MTA is not accepting that very standard form of email address then it is really a config issue at the MTA. There is no reason it should be rejecting an RFC compliant email address like that one. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/windows-apache2php526mysql5130#post-21677 Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:47:34 +0000 iservers 21677@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>I was not referring to me modifying the core, but rather suggesting that the developers modify it for a future release of bbPress.</p> <p>SMTP is a major mail API. It can be handled transparently by bbPress with the existing underlying PHP support of the 'mail()' function. Seems like a one line (and transparent to existing systems) change in bbPress would be preferable to requiring bbPress admins to discover the issue, debug it, and then find and install a plugin. It would have also prevented me (and judging from the forum topics, others) from spending our (and your) time on the issue as well. Perhaps I am missing something about the development and distribution of bbPress, but using a plugin for a 1 line change is putting a sledgehammer to a tack. Especially since a system presumably built for *nix systems goes into a Windows environment (and rather an unusual one at that; IIS being generally preferred to Apache in that world) rather well. Just my 2c worth. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/windows-apache2php526mysql5130#post-21569 Sat, 13 Dec 2008 03:16:43 +0000 chrishajer 21569@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Re-reading your initial post, I recall this was mentioned in the forums here (at least) once before.</p> <p><a href="http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/email-wont-send-from-anyhting" rel="nofollow">http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/email-wont-send-from-anyhting</a><br /> <a href="http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/user-registration" rel="nofollow">http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/user-registration</a> </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/windows-apache2php526mysql5130#post-21568 Sat, 13 Dec 2008 03:12:59 +0000 chrishajer 21568@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>The only concern I have with modifying a core file is that the modification might be forgotten about, then when you upgrade (3 months, 6 months, a year or more later), something stops working and you're left wondering why. I know you would never have that trouble, but I would caution anyone else from modifying core files and stick to using plugins to override functions that appear in pluggable.php. Upgrades are so much easier when you don't need to keep track of what you modified in the core.</p> <p>Thanks for the Windows feedback in any case. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/windows-apache2php526mysql5130#post-21567 Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:40:28 +0000 iservers 21567@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Well, I suppose that would solve the problem, but 'bb_mail()' already calls PHP 'mail()' which transparently handles SMTP. No plugin required.</p> <p>Yes, I know this requires a change to the core, but it is trivial and transparent. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/windows-apache2php526mysql5130#post-21564 Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:28:16 +0000 chrishajer 21564@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Good feedback on that system.</p> <p>Better than modifying a core file (which won't survive an upgrade) is to use a plugin that allows you to use an SMTP server:<br /> <a href="http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/smtp-mailer-for-bbpress/" rel="nofollow">http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/smtp-mailer-for-bbpress/</a></p> <p>There are also threads in the forum about using Swift Mailer, IIRC. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/windows-apache2php526mysql5130#post-21563 Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:25:46 +0000 iservers 21563@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>I just installed bbPress on a Windows XP system without incident.<br /> Went in very easily.</p> <p>However, the PHP 'mail()' function on Windows uses an MTA.<br /> That is, it communicates directly with an SMTP server rather than using any intervening software.<br /> This means that the 'From:' header format must be very simple:<br /> 'From: <a href="mailto:user@domain'">user@domain'</a><br /> instead of:<br /> 'From: "Name of bbPress system" &lt;user@domain&gt;'</p> <p>Otherwise, the SMTP server returns an error and does not send a message.</p> <p>An easy change can be made to bb-includes/pluggable.php::bb_Mail().<br /> Change:<br /> $headers[] = 'From: "' . bb_get_option('name') . '" &lt;' . $from . '&gt;';<br /> to:<br /> $headers[] = 'From: '. $from;</p> <p>The change will work with all systems or it can be placed under a<br /> Windows-specific switch. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/user-registration#post-14164 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:52:12 +0000 chrishajer 14164@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>TJworld, did you try sambauers plugin:<br /> <a href="http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/user-registration#post-13337" rel="nofollow">http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/user-registration#post-13337</a></p> <p>And is it just registration emails with the password people are not receiving? </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/user-registration#post-14160 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:21:32 +0000 TJworld 14160@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>An update to my post above. I tried using a gmail.com address and that isn't refused, but the SMTP envelope is reported as</p> <p>Return-Path: &lt;yyyyyyyyy@localhost&gt;</p> <p>So the symptoms I'm seeing could be to do with tight rules at AOL and something in the standard configuration of Postfix. I've not seen this problem with any web applications that do user registration like this. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/user-registration#post-14159 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:03:17 +0000 TJworld 14159@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>I've just encountered this with 0.8.3.1. As the mail server administrator I was getting delivery failure notifications which reported that the receiving SMTP host had rejected the email with:</p> <p>&lt;xxxxx@aol.com&gt;: host mailin-04.mx.aol.com[64.12.138.57] said: 501 SYNTAX<br /> ERROR IN PARAMETERS OR ARGUMENTS (in reply to MAIL FROM command)</p> <p>I increased logging on Postfix and tested it and found:</p> <p>mailin-04.mx.aol.com[64.12.138.57]: MAIL FROM:&lt;yyyyyyyy@localhost&gt;<br /> mailin-04.mx.aol.com[64.12.138.57]: 501 SYNTAX ERROR IN PARAMETERS OR ARGUMENTS</p> <p>Where 'yyyyyyyy' is the mail server's local user account for the domain doing the sending.</p> <p>It looks as if the AOL server is rejecting the @localhost part of the MAIL FROM field. I've looked in the bbPress config.php and in the administration options of the dashboard but can't see why bbPress is using localhost. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/user-registration#post-13442 Mon, 28 Jan 2008 03:21:32 +0000 rslater 13442@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>when that be applied in the pluggable.php file? </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/user-registration#post-13396 Sat, 26 Jan 2008 00:59:39 +0000 rslater 13396@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>not sure how to apply that code.. can you assist </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/user-registration#post-13362 Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:43:46 +0000 thomasklaiber 13362@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>The bbpress mail funcion is just something I can't really understand. When I tried to use it with my <em>favorite notification</em> plugin I got some problems, so I decided to hardcode the mail-function into my plugin.<br /> <code><br /> mail( $userdata-&gt;user_email, bb_get_option('name') . ':' . __('Notification'),<br /> sprintf( $message, $topic-&gt;topic_title, get_user_name($bb_current_user-&gt;ID), get_topic_link($topic_id) ),<br /> 'From: ' . bb_get_option('admin_email') );<br /> </code></p> <p>I just kept it simple there. Did someone of you try to hardcode the mailing into the registration function? Would be interesting to see if it works then?! </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/email-wont-send-from-anyhting#post-13359 Fri, 25 Jan 2008 03:14:09 +0000 rslater 13359@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>I am trying to think if there is a work around // using what works .. I.E wordpress. Since the passwords would be the same for both.. Maybe there is an angle I can take there.. Sign them up in wordpress and dump the new users into bbpress to edit profile/ or add the additional bbpress profile fieldsto wordpress profile edit.. Just thinking out loud.. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/i-dont-get-second-pw-reset-email-in-hotmail#post-13358 Fri, 25 Jan 2008 02:30:10 +0000 chrishajer 13358@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Good question. I'm inclined to say it's hotmail right off the bat, since they make it through to gmail, but maybe it's something that bbPress does with the email that hotmail finds objectionable.</p> <p>Who does the email arrive from, at gmail (and the first time at hotmail for that matter), and if the mail were rejected, where would the bounced message go? In my installation, emails appear to come from <a href="mailto:bbpress@domain.com">bbpress@domain.com</a> - but that email doesn't exist, so any mail that fails to get delivered is just gone forever. If your email comes from a real email address, is that address getting rejection emails from hotmail? </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/email-wont-send-from-anyhting#post-13357 Fri, 25 Jan 2008 02:27:36 +0000 chrishajer 13357@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Hmm - back to the drawing board... </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/email-wont-send-from-anyhting#post-13356 Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:26:16 +0000 sambauers 13356@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>I'm out of ideas I'm afraid. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/email-wont-send-from-anyhting#post-13355 Thu, 24 Jan 2008 23:54:02 +0000 rslater 13355@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Sam can you refollow that thread above. The plugin did not work.. any more ideas... Would to have you additional help.. I cannot figure this out whatsoever. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/i-dont-get-second-pw-reset-email-in-hotmail#post-13354 Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:38:44 +0000 intellivision 13354@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>I get the first:</p> <p>"If you wanted to reset your password, you may do so by visiting the following address:<br /> <a href="http://appleswitcher.com/wp/forum/bb-reset-password.php?key=4d8981628df36c3" rel="nofollow">http://appleswitcher.com/wp/forum/bb-reset-password.php?key=4d8981628df36c3</a><br /> If you don't want to reset your password, just ignore this email. Thanks!"</p> <p>Click that link which takes me to my page:</p> <p>"Password Reset<br /> Your password has been reset and a new one has been mailed to you."</p> <p>But the email never gets to my account, not even in Junk. Gmail *does not have this problem.* I just checked. It's just Hotmail. Don't know if it's "them" or bbPress. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/user-registration#post-13353 Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:52:47 +0000 rslater 13353@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>I wish I could just have 1 login for both sides -- and be able to merge profile into one place to edit. Sounds really complicated though. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/user-registration#post-13352 Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:50:14 +0000 rslater 13352@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>I have tried all different ways of entering email addresses. I am baffled. The only thing I can think is the following:</p> <p>bbpress resides in folder one up from Word press. I am wondering if there is a file permission issue for that folder. But again the odd thing is.. the favorites notification works just fine and it is in the same plugin folder as the plugin Sam had me upload. I do not know. I hope Sam may have more ideas.</p> <p>None of this makes sense. It has to be a BBpress email php coding issue.. But why is it so different from wordpress and the bpress plugin "favorites notification" that work fine. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/user-registration#post-13350 Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:34:03 +0000 chrishajer 13350@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>One thing I always thought was interesting was that mail appears to be sent from <a href="mailto:bbpress@yourdomain.com">bbpress@yourdomain.com</a>, whether or not that is a valid email. So, if you responded to your password email or something, it would be sent to that bbpress@ address, which might be invalid, so it would bounce. </p> <p>I wonder if <a href="mailto:bbpress@yourdomain.com">bbpress@yourdomain.com</a> has to be set up as a valid email account on the server, so if the SMTP server says "let me make sure this is one of my users before I sent out email for him" it will work. Since you wouldn't normally have a <a href="mailto:bbpress@yourdomain.com">bbpress@yourdomain.com</a> address already set up, maybe some MTAs don't like it and give up on the mail altogether.</p> <p>Why wouldn't the email just be sent from the admin email address since we're asked to enter it in config.php anyway?</p> <p>Any thoughts? </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/user-registration#post-13343 Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:15:30 +0000 rslater 13343@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Still does not work.. Can you elaborate on the "valid email" and what exactly you mean.. May sound like a dumb question but I just want to make sure i am not crazy. Which may be the case... :) </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/user-registration#post-13337 Thu, 24 Jan 2008 01:50:45 +0000 sambauers 13337@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Looks like it may be rejecting the mail due to the "From" email address being invalid. Try this code in a plugin and make sure your admin_email option is a valid email address:</p> <pre><code>&lt;?php if ( !function_exists( &#39;bb_mail&#39; ) ) : function bb_mail( $to, $subject, $message, $headers = &#39;&#39; ) { if (!is_array($headers)) { $headers = trim($headers); $headers = preg_split(&#39;@\r(?:\n{0,1})|\n@&#39;, $headers); } if (!count($headers) || !count(preg_grep(&#39;/^from:\s/im&#39;, $headers))) { if (!$from = bb_get_option(&#39;admin_email&#39;)) if ($uri_parsed = parse_url(bb_get_option(&#39;uri&#39;))) if ($uri_parsed[&#39;host&#39;]) $from = &#39;bbpress@&#39; . trim(preg_replace(&#39;/^www./i&#39;, &#39;&#39;, $uri_parsed[&#39;host&#39;])); if ($from) $headers[] = &#39;From: &quot;&#39; . bb_get_option(&#39;name&#39;) . &#39;&quot; &lt;&#39; . $from . &#39;&gt;&#39;; } $headers = trim(join(&quot;\r\n&quot;, $headers)); return @mail($to, $subject, $message, $headers); } endif; ?&gt;</code></pre> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/email-wont-send-from-anyhting#post-13335 Thu, 24 Jan 2008 00:37:56 +0000 rslater 13335@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Sam.. Can you take a look at this thread and see if there is anything you know of to fix this issue. Chrishajer has been helping me thus far and been a tremendous help. We just cannot figure out this email issue.</p> <p><a href="http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/user-registration?replies=17" rel="nofollow">http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/user-registration?replies=17</a> </p>