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		<title>bbPress Support Forums &#187; Tag: 0.9 - Recent Posts</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>_ck_ on "Question: is _ck_&#039;s security patch for 0.9 still needed for 0.9.0.7?"</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/question-is-_ck_s-security-patch-for-09-still-needed-for-0907#post-97856</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>_ck_</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>0.9 users should upgrade to (or start with) the 0.9 branch<br />
which was the final version of 0.9</p>
<p>but 0.9.0.7 appears to simply be a copy of the final 0.9 branch</p>
<p>browse <a href="http://bbpress.trac.wordpress.org/browser/branches/0.9" rel="nofollow">http://bbpress.trac.wordpress.org/browser/branches/0.9</a></p>
<p>zip <a href="http://bbpress.trac.wordpress.org/changeset/3730/branches/0.9?old_path=%2F&#038;format=zip" rel="nofollow">http://bbpress.trac.wordpress.org/changeset/3730/branches/0.9?old_path=%2F&#038;format=zip</a></p>
<p>svn co <a href="http://svn.automattic.com/bbpress/branches/0.9/" rel="nofollow">http://svn.automattic.com/bbpress/branches/0.9/</a></p>
<p>From what I can tell, JJJ just copied the branch over to make "0.9.0.7" </p>
<p><a href="http://bbpress.trac.wordpress.org/changeset/3517" rel="nofollow">http://bbpress.trac.wordpress.org/changeset/3517</a><br />
<a href="http://bbpress.trac.wordpress.org/changeset/3535" rel="nofollow">http://bbpress.trac.wordpress.org/changeset/3535</a><br />
<a href="http://bbpress.trac.wordpress.org/log/tags/0.9.0.7/bb-includes?rev=3535" rel="nofollow">http://bbpress.trac.wordpress.org/log/tags/0.9.0.7/bb-includes?rev=3535</a></p>
<p>That's all he did, there were no other changes, improvements or fixes.</p>
<p>But there really are some fixes in the final 0.9 branch over 0.9.0.6</p>
<p>There were 12 files changed from 0.9.0.6 to 0.9.0.7 (aka 0.9 branch)</p>
<p><a href="http://bbpress.trac.wordpress.org/changeset?old_path=%2Ftags%2F0.9.0.6&#038;old=2338+&#038;new_path=%2Ftags%2F0.9.0.7&#038;new=3715" rel="nofollow">http://bbpress.trac.wordpress.org/changeset?old_path=%2Ftags%2F0.9.0.6&#038;old=2338+&#038;new_path=%2Ftags%2F0.9.0.7&#038;new=3715</a></p>
<p>bb-includes/default-filters.php (1 diff)<br />
bb-includes/wp-functions.php (2 diffs)<br />
bb-includes/pluggable.php (1 diff)<br />
bb-includes/functions.php (3 diffs)<br />
bb-includes/registration-functions.php (1 diff)<br />
bb-includes/template-functions.php (3 diffs)<br />
bb-includes/compat.php (1 diff)<br />
search.php (1 diff)<br />
bb-plugins/akismet.php (4 diffs)<br />
bb-admin/bb-do-counts.php (3 diffs)<br />
bb-admin/admin.php (1 diff)<br />
bb-admin/admin-functions.php (2 diffs)</p>
<p>It's hard to be 100% positive but I am pretty sure they addressed the base64 decoding bug.</p>
<p>Those with 0.9.0.6 can replace just these files to upgrade to 0.9.0.7<br />
<a href="http://bbpress.trac.wordpress.org/changeset?format=zip&#038;new=3715&#038;old=2338&#038;new_path=%2Ftags%2F0.9.0.7&#038;old_path=%2Ftags%2F0.9.0.6" rel="nofollow">http://bbpress.trac.wordpress.org/changeset?format=zip&#038;new=3715&#038;old=2338&#038;new_path=%2Ftags%2F0.9.0.7&#038;old_path=%2Ftags%2F0.9.0.6</a><br />
(those running versions before 0.9.0.6 will need more files from a fuller upgrade, do not use just the above files as it will break your install)</p>
<p>Everyone should still use my mini-plugin to protect bbpress and wordpress for yet-unidentified security issues. It's better than nothing. You can even remove the header and just copy the one <code>IF</code> block to your <code>bb-config.php</code> and <code>wp-config.php</code></p>
<p>If <code>256</code> characters turns out to be too short of a URL restriction, some may need to raise it as high as <code>1024</code>, for example in WordPress where it stupidly uses GET now to mass delete posts, which was a dumbfounding move on their part.</p>
<pre><code>&#60;?php
/*
Plugin Name: Block Long/Bad Queries (for bbPress and WordPress)
*/

if (strlen($_SERVER[&#039;REQUEST_URI&#039;])&#62;1024 &#124;&#124;
preg_match(&#039;@(eval&#124;base64&#124;unescape)[^a-zA-Z0-9]@si&#039;,$_SERVER[&#039;REQUEST_URI&#039;]))
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			<title>blogher8 on "Question: is _ck_&#039;s security patch for 0.9 still needed for 0.9.0.7?"</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/question-is-_ck_s-security-patch-for-09-still-needed-for-0907#post-97852</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 07:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>blogher8</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I hope _ck_ or someone else can answer.</p>
<p>I have 0.9.0.7 installed.</p>
<p>I just saw _ck_'s post here about a security patch plugin: <a href="http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/bbpress-103-released#post-84690" rel="nofollow">http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/bbpress-103-released#post-84690</a></p>
<p>Ten months ago, _ck_ wrote,</p>
<p>"bbPress 0.9 users should install my unofficial "block-long-queries" mini-plugin to avoid the security bug that 1.0.3 fixes and similar unknown attacks in the future.<br />
(it also works in 1.0 and WordPress)"</p>
<p>Since it seems like 0.9.0.7 came out five months later, I am wondering if this new release covers the patch or if it is still needed.</p>
<p>Note that I searched extensively for a post about the 0.9.0.7 release and the changes it represented, but I can't see anything like that.</p>
<p>Also, I can't ask in the original thread because it was closed.</p>
<p>Thanks!
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			<title>geneghis on "How to integrate bbPress 0.9 with WordPress 2.3 or lower"</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/how-to-integrate-bbpress-09-with-wordpress-23-or-lower#post-89171</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 05:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>geneghis</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi</p>
<p>I hope to find an answer here. I write to WordPress, to bluehost, everywhere and anybody answer to me. I explain my problem:</p>
<p> I must re-install all my website, and it's impossible to have on-site<br />
 registration box, on the right column in the begin. I try all since for<br />
 days. Only invitations run. But I want register members who want to take<br />
 part on this platform.<br />
 The page of BP Compability, this sentence is:<br />
 "Navigation Links<br />
 "You may want to add new navigation tabs or links to your theme to link to<br />
 BuddyPress directory pages. The default set of links are:<br />
 Register: <a href="http://www.faicmfsf.org/register/" rel="nofollow">http://www.faicmfsf.org/register/</a> (registration must be<br />
 enabled)"<br />
 But I look at for this file, I don't find it. I made a special page for<br />
 regster too, but it didn't run. For all other files for register, they are<br />
 all active, it's ok. Just one on "BuddyPress / pb-core / pb-core-<br />
 signup.php (inactive)" What I must to do.<br />
 I want to put widgets for register, but anyone run. Sorry for my bad<br />
 english.<br />
 Gene
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			<title>_ck_ on "BUG: bbPress 0.9 download not working"</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/bug-bbpress-09-download-not-working#post-69459</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 11:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>_ck_</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>This has to be a communications hickup to the SVN because I occasionally have the same problem downloading the plugins.</p>
<p>Next time it happens, try copying the link and putting a random query after it,  ie.    <a href="http://bbpress.org/legacy.tar.gz?12345" rel="nofollow">http://bbpress.org/legacy.tar.gz?12345</a>  and see if that makes a difference (or not).
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			<title>johnhiler on "BUG: bbPress 0.9 download not working"</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/bug-bbpress-09-download-not-working#post-69444</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 01:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>johnhiler</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I've had this problem when downloading plugins while signed out... if I sign it, I've noticed it tends to work?</p>
<p>The issue happens more often than it usually would for me, b/c the plugins install uses 0.8.3 and isn't signin integrated with the main forum (which uses the latest version).</p>
<p>At least, I think that signing in will fix the downloads!  It could just be random chance that ever time I've signed in before, the downloads have started working again! :-)
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			<title>hpguru on "BUG: bbPress 0.9 download not working"</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/bug-bbpress-09-download-not-working#post-69432</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 18:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>hpguru</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bbpress.org/legacy.tar.gz" rel="nofollow">http://bbpress.org/legacy.tar.gz</a>
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			<title>gerikg on "BUG: bbPress 0.9 download not working"</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/bug-bbpress-09-download-not-working#post-69421</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 16:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>gerikg</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>For me it happens a lot when downloading a plugin.  Just hit refresh and it will eventually work.
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			<title>ryanhellyer on "BUG: bbPress 0.9 download not working"</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/bug-bbpress-09-download-not-working#post-69419</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 16:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>ryanhellyer</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I had the same problem when I created my last new thread. Very weird.
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			<title>kevinjohngallagher on "BUG: bbPress 0.9 download not working"</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/bug-bbpress-09-download-not-working#post-69418</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 15:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>kevinjohngallagher</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello folks,</p>
<p>I've found a rather sporadic bug when trying to download bbPress 0.9 from teh downloads page. Specifically rather than going to the .zip file, it led me to a blank page instead.</p>
<p>2 computer, 4 browsers, same issue.</p>
<p>Been like this since at least this morning (GMT).</p>
<p>I'm presuming it's a hic-up, but just thought i'd point it out :)
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			<title>Sam Bauers on "Support for 0.9 - how long?"</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/support-for-09-how-long/page/2#post-55531</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Sam Bauers</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>So it'll be the end of 2010.</p>
<p>Closing this topic.
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			<title>anti-sec on "0.9.x version request."</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/09x-version-request#post-38976</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>anti-sec</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>@johnhiler Thank you , sorry but  I hadn't time to look properly at bbpress .</p>
<p>@_ck_   Be serene , I'm a white hat and infosecwriter .  I'm here with my personal data , ua , ip , server and corporation. Really do u see bad intentions? Yes , I need to study 0.9.x sources to confirm a vulnerability and write an exploit ( if possible , code is really good ) ,  however I'm for full disclosure only after vendors report and fix.<br />
So , don't be nervous , and thank you for attention and support .<br />
Regards.
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			<title>_ck_ on "0.9.x version request."</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/09x-version-request#post-38949</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>_ck_</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>When someone shows up with the username anti-security, runs a vulnerability  site, and asks for 0.9, I get kinda nervous. But please let me know if you find anything.
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			<title>johnhiler on "0.9.x version request."</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/09x-version-request#post-38946</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>johnhiler</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>You can download the archive here:<br />
<a href="http://bbpress.org/dl-archive/bbpress-0.9.0.5.zip" rel="nofollow">http://bbpress.org/dl-archive/bbpress-0.9.0.5.zip</a></p>
<p>It's currently very difficult to find and download old releases.  We're hoping the powers that be create a release archive for old versions linked from the bbPress download page...
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			<title>anti-sec on "0.9.x version request."</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/09x-version-request#post-38942</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>anti-sec</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi bbpress staff and coders ,<br />
I want to ask u the bbpress 0.9.x latest pack ( 0.9.5 ) . Currently I need to study the code of this previous version for security pourpose , and I would be very glad to u if  can provide my request .<br />
Sorry for nuisance .<br />
Regards.
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			<title>_ck_ on "Support for 0.9 - how long?"</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/support-for-09-how-long/page/2#post-38867</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>_ck_</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Can someone test this new version of Freshly Baked Cookies with bbPress 0.9 + WP 2.8.1 and let me know if it works and cookie sync is maintained?</p>
<p><a href="http://bbshowcase.org/plugins/freshly-baked-cookies.zip" rel="nofollow">http://bbshowcase.org/plugins/freshly-baked-cookies.zip</a></p>
<p>Don't forget to copy over your settings at the top of the plugin and remember to set the AUTH_COOKIE_VERSION to <code>2</code>  for  WP 2.8</p>
<p>I have a hard time believing it's that simple to fix for WP 2.8 vs 2.7 but here's hoping.
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			<title>_ck_ on "Support for 0.9 - how long?"</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/support-for-09-how-long/page/2#post-38801</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>_ck_</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I've now made the identical Topic Voices functionality available for bbPress 0.9<br />
<a href="http://bbshowcase.org/plugins/topic-voices.zip" rel="nofollow">http://bbshowcase.org/plugins/topic-voices.zip</a></p>
<p>Any changes you make to your templates to use it will remain compatible when upgrading to 1.0, users will only have to deactivate the plugin after upgrading.</p>
<p>(this is also a demonstration of how Voices should have been a plugin rather than in the core)
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			<title>_ck_ on "functions.php"</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/functionsphp#post-38789</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>_ck_</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>You can emulate the <code>functions.php</code> in theme directories quite easily in 0.9</p>
<p>Put this into a regular plugin and I suggest naming it  <code>_functions.php</code> with a leading underscore so you don't even have to activate it. Install it and then when a <code>functions.php</code> is found inside the currently active theme, it will be loaded with the regular plugins. Since it's so tiny, if you have a collection of mini-plugins you can just put it in there instead.</p>
<pre><code>&#60;?php
/*
Plugin Name: functions.php
*/
$template_functions_include = bb_get_active_theme_directory() . &#39;functions.php&#39;;
if ( file_exists( $template_functions_include ) ) { require_once( $template_functions_include ); }
?&#62;</code></pre>
<p><strong> </strong><br />
In theory you might even be able to put that code into the <code>header.php</code> inside of the templates if you are making a theme you want to distribute for 0.9
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			<title>johnhiler on "Where to download latest version 0.9"</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/wehre-to-download-latets-version-09#post-38504</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>johnhiler</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Wow... that's incredibly aggressive given that 1.0 hasn't had time to be field tested, and also the state of 1.0 plugins.</p>
<p>Sam, can 0.9 be restored as an easily available option?  It can be played down if you'd like - even something low key like the WordPress release archives would be great:<br />
<a href="http://wordpress.org/download/" rel="nofollow">http://wordpress.org/download/</a>
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			<title>_ck_ on "Where to download latest version 0.9"</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/wehre-to-download-latets-version-09#post-38500</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>_ck_</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Ah I see it was even pulled from the download page, which bothers me of course.</p>
<p>It's always available via trac too:<br />
<a href="http://trac.bbpress.org/changeset//tags/0.9.0.5?old_path=%2F&#038;format=zip" rel="nofollow">http://trac.bbpress.org/changeset//tags/0.9.0.5?old_path=%2F&#038;format=zip</a></p>
<p>or the branch might have a few fixes someday in the future<br />
<a href="http://trac.bbpress.org/changeset//branches/0.9?old_path=%2F&#038;format=zip" rel="nofollow">http://trac.bbpress.org/changeset//branches/0.9?old_path=%2F&#038;format=zip</a>
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			<title>Sam Bauers on "Where to download latest version 0.9"</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/wehre-to-download-latets-version-09#post-38436</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Sam Bauers</dc:creator>
			<guid isPermaLink="false">38436@http://bbpress.org/forums/</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bbpress.org/dl-archive/bbpress-0.9.0.5.zip" rel="nofollow">http://bbpress.org/dl-archive/bbpress-0.9.0.5.zip</a>
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			<title>ademmler on "Where to download latest version 0.9"</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/wehre-to-download-latets-version-09#post-38422</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>ademmler</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>hi,</p>
<p>because 1.0 and some of my needed PlugIns are not working together I want to download the latest Version 0.9.<br />
Where can I find this one? Do i have to browse svn for that?</p>
<p>Greetings Alex
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			<title>Michael3185 on "Support for 0.9 - how long?"</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/support-for-09-how-long/page/2#post-38411</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Michael3185</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Just my tuppence worth, but as I said elsewhere, I've taken _ck_'s advice and stuck with 0.9. My forum needs aren't very demanding, I have all the plugins I need and they work fine, and I don't use WordPress so integration isn't an issue. I have enquiries from others who want sites and forums building, but static sites rather than blogs. I can use my DTP package and bbPress 0.9 to do everything very quickly, and have excellent stability from both.</p>
<p>I also agree with _ck_'s points about core vs. plugins. From what I can gather, the original idea was to have a fast, secure, and plugin extensible system. Even as a user rather than a developer that makes a lot of sense to me. It means the core quickly becomes more and more stable, and anyone is free to develop whatever they want to hook into it. Brilliant. But putting various functions into the core means that any changes have to be redone by Sam et. al. and re-uploaded, hacked in the core by users, or redeveloped by hooking in a plugin to change the functionality. As everyone has differing needs and opinions, plugins for anything but basic core functions leave open far more options. Anything which is not essential to all users is not a core function. Gravatars, for example, are not required or even wanted by many users.</p>
<p>As to people remembering old versions with fondness, but having moved on with each bleeding edge version, I'd suggest that it's only those who keep moving on who voice their opinions most in these forums. There are huge numbers of users who've built forums with very old packages of all kinds, and when they build new ones they use the old software too. I think it's important that those who love bleeding edge, along with the challenges and time consuming re-uploading and fiddling around, don't forget that many people are perfectly happy with what works and see no need to keep reinventing the wheel. After all, how much better really, do all these new ideas and functions appearing all over the web make life? This is probably a point for a philosophical forum, but worth mentioning I think. We seem to spend so much time redoing and redoing, that often purpose is lost in the background noise of being so busy changing everything. We live in a, "Yippee, it's new!" culture, where anything which doesn't titillate the mind is ditched for whatever's next.</p>
<p>New functionality is great if it's genuinely useful, but I'm glad 0.9.0.5 exists and works so well, and the occasional security update  will do fine. Incidentally, I'd quite like to see a separate 0.9 forum. It would save 0.9 users having to wade through all the 1.0 questions and allow us to quickly see what's relevant.
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			<title>John James Jacoby on "Support for 0.9 - how long?"</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/support-for-09-how-long#post-38400</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>John James Jacoby</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Out with the old, in with the new.</p>
<p>If it wasn't against the grain to open up a .9 legacy forum here specifically for supporting it, I'd say just do that and see who falls into it.</p>
<p>A majority of the audience of bbPress are people that want to be on the bleeding edge of WordPress development, and be part of a growing and maturing community. As such, people will remember .9 of bbPress as much as they remember .9 of WordPress (b2evo anyone?)</p>
<p>I personally think anything officially past the end of 2009 is a stretch, and is a very generous offer from Sam to not leave the early adopters on their own without patches and support.
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			<title>grassrootspa on "Support for 0.9 - how long?"</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/support-for-09-how-long#post-38395</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 08:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>grassrootspa</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>_ck_, I love you, (and you are without a doubt the absolute best when it comes to plugins) but I for one am very excited to have the ability to use gravatars and voice built into the core bbPress program.</p>
<p>Respectfully to all, just because the ABILITY to use a new feature is built into bbPress DOES NOT force one to use it. It's still totally up YOU. No one HAS to incorporate Gravatars or Voices into their site, but it is very cool for newbies to simply turn a core feature on or off rather than needing to download a plugin that is probably months or even a year old...praying it will work with the latest version.</p>
<p>Am I saying Sam should build an NES Emulator and a Weatherbug Widget into bbPress 1.2? HECK NO.</p>
<p>(Sam, start with the Atari emulator instead)</p>
<p>But things like Gravatars, (which Automattic owns) have tremendous potential use (goodbye individual avatar uploading for every single forum, hello universality). And the ABILITY to display voices makes sense to add in (being able to show the number of different people contributing to a topic certainly enhances bbPress).</p>
<p>Perhaps I am in the minority here, but I am hoping future versions of bbPress will continue to add these sorts of new features that make the bbPress experience more enjoyable for all users.
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			<title>_ck_ on "Support for 0.9 - how long?"</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/support-for-09-how-long#post-38346</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>_ck_</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>If I missed such a large site in the top 100 be sure to let me know.<br />
Sometimes it's hard for me to find certain sites given how much bbPress is being customized.</p>
<p>(I had written a whole thing here but I accidentally closed the tab and restoring it never brought the text back unfortunately.)</p>
<p>You should never adopt a program based on one person, especially if that person doesn't do it for a living and even more important since that person doesn't work for the company that made the program in the first place  ;-)</p>
<p>To be clear I am not abandoning bbPress, at least not until I find something better and I am not actually looking for something else right now and what I have seen over the past year has not impressed me much. Besides, there are other talents around here and they are slowing releasing more and more impressive plugins or porting them from WP.  A couple years from now people won't even remember me.</p>
<p>My biggest problem with 1.0 is how bbPress was on a course with 0.9 to correct many of the legacy mistakes that WordPress had made, and suddenly with a whim by Matt, bbPress has turned around 180 degrees and steered itself neck deep back into the muck and mire via BackPress.  It's now burdened with many more layers and required compatibility and it will never be any more lightweight than it is now, which is not so fantastic anymore.</p>
<p>Another big problem growing with 1.0 is how instead of taking any feature that is outside of the API functionality and making it external as a plugin, it is being poured directly into the core, setting itself up for more legacy failure, like WordPress.  Sam wrote some really great plugins as an independent but now as a core developer he can just slide it right into the core. It's far easier to modified the core to get new features done fast but it should be resisted at all costs.  You'll notice that WordPress doesn't have any official plugins outside of akismet and "hello dolly", it's a very clear but invisible company policy - "we don't make plugins, put it into the core". bbPress is now headed down the same path and it's not necessary.</p>
<p>Things like:<br />
gravatars<br />
voices<br />
topic page icons<br />
should not be in the core. Instead any necessary action and filter hooks needed to accomplish such features should be carefully created and then the features should be made as plugins that can be enabled or disabled as desired. bbPress already comes with a "factory" plugin directory, it should be put to good use.</p>
<p>bbPress 0.9's greatest strength was as a lightweight framework.<br />
1.0 is not just a framework anymore, it's starting to tell you how it should look and feel, and that is bad, because there are dozens of other forum programs out there that will do just that.
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			<title>permex on "Support for 0.9 - how long?"</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/support-for-09-how-long#post-38333</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>permex</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I run a bbPress site that would be some way up that top 100, and the WP site gets 15 million hits a month.</p>
<p>Reading this does make me more than a little concerned - WP integration is a key feature of bbPress, as can be seen from all the talk about it on these forums. 0.9 integration is almost impossible to get working (I was never able), and the bridge between the two will likely be developed solely with 1.0 in mind from here on (not that it ever worked properly in 0.9).</p>
<p>1.0 seems to the killer app for a WP/BB CMS integration, so for that reason alone it is an appealing upgrade - in my case essential, as I would not have otherwise been able to select bbPress at all. Providing a cohesive user experience is rather more important than worrying about a few CPU cycles in a case like this, as hardware is cheaper than lost page views and users.</p>
<p>However, reading _ck_'s comments here and elsewhere, it is obvious he loathes 1.0 or at least has almost no interest in it.</p>
<p>Since most of the rich functionality which is essential to a rounded forum is provided by _ck_'s superb plugins, it seems that for anyone dependent on them is going to be left waiting for a potentially long time, especially when _ck_ appears to have no interest in taking work, making it a matter of waiting for plugins to catch up - I am sure many users just couldn't upgrade without being able to carry forward their existing features, which rather renders the whole issue of supporting 0.9 moot.</p>
<p>I'd have to say, it would be a situation like this, and not any "heaviness", which would press me into looking at an alternative solution...
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			<title>johnhiler on "Support for 0.9 - how long?"</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/support-for-09-how-long#post-38279</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 11:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>johnhiler</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Ah ok, I was just wondering if there was an implication that 0.9 doesn't have a working integration with WordPress!  Thanks for clarifying. :-)</p>
<p>I definitely agree that it's not as seamless as it could be...
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			<title>ryanhellyer on "Support for 0.9 - how long?"</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/support-for-09-how-long#post-38278</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 10:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>ryanhellyer</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> It should be possible to integrate version 0.9 with just about any version of WordPress</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, but it's a lot easier with 1.0. I always found minor gremlins in the way it worked with 0.9, but with 1.0 it seems to function fairly seamlessly.</p>
<p>I generally help others with their forums, not build them for myself, so I need it to be fairly basic to do the integration. The way 1.0 does it natively is pretty slick IMO.
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			<title>johnhiler on "Support for 0.9 - how long?"</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/support-for-09-how-long#post-38273</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>johnhiler</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ryan - It should be possible to integrate version 0.9 with just about any version of WordPress (including 2.7)... except for 2.8?  That's only broken because WordPress decided to change how they handled cookies and broke bbPress integration in the process...
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			<title>ryanhellyer on "Support for 0.9 - how long?"</title>
			<link>http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/support-for-09-how-long#post-38269</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>ryanhellyer</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like there are enough people wanting to keep using the 0.9 release (and apparently with good reasons) to justify continuing it longer than I suggested.</p>
<p>I never liked the 0.9 line, but it seems I'm not in the majority with that opinion. I guess I'm biased by requiring a working integration with WordPress.
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