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bbPress support forums User Favorites: timskii http://bbpress.org/forums/ bbPress support forums User Favorites: timskii en Sun, 07 Sep 2008 05:04:11 +0000 _ck_ on "PRIORITY #1: Image\File Attachments" http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/priority-1-imagefile-attachments#post-17539 Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:50:54 +0000 _ck_ 17539@http://bbpress.org/forums/ I have now added the ability to do inline image viewing starting with version 0.1.5 It's not completely finished but I know that ability was in demand so I'm making it available for testing right away. timskii on "Integration = ? How to do it?" http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/integration-how-to-do-it#post-16601 Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:43:35 +0000 timskii 16601@http://bbpress.org/forums/ All the integration code assumes you start with a blog and want to add a forum. However, if you start with a forum, chances are the forum's user database will be far larger than the blog. The technique below outlines how I did it. This is entirely at your own risk. I've not gone over the standard things, like shared secret keys: I'm assuming you've read the basic integration guides. 0. You'll need to be familiar with .htaccess, SQL at raw database level, and template hacks. If your level of expertise is "pressing buttons", stop reading here. This is very easy to mess up, so make plenty of backups. Ideally test the whole conversion first, and probably prepare scripts to run if a lot of database changes are needed. 1. Block public access to the blog and forum for all except your IP using .htaccess. 2. In the database, rename wp_users and wp_usermeta. These won't be used, but you will need them later to cross-reference old posts to new authors. I'm assuming a standard install that uses wp_ and bb_ as prefixes. 3. Copy bb_users and bb_usermeta to wp_users and wp_usermeta respectively. Keep the original tables for now. 4. Add the missing column via SQL: <code>ALTER TABLE wp_users ADD user_activation_key varchar(60) NOT NULL default '';</code> 5. Delete the Wordpress install, but keep the old database tables (and plugins and themes). Install Wordpress in its former position. Use an entirely new user name as your new Wordpress admin. (The purpose of deleting and then installing Wordpress is to create a genuinely new admin user in the table. For me, this was faster than manually adding an admin user and making sure all the correct permissions were set. You mileage may vary.) 6. How much extra work you need to do to your old Wordpress tables depends on the number of authors that were active on Wordpress: Using SQL, you'll need to change all the old author IDs in wp_posts and wp_comments to match that author's ID from the forum. It is possible there are other user references deep in the system, so be careful. I had little complexity to deal with. If your were the first to register for both your forum and blog, the important IDs may match perfectly already. 7. Most Wordpress templates use the user's display_name. This is unfortunately, because BBPress tends to use user_login. The result is that most Wordpress references to user names will appear blank. You'll either need to populate the display_name column, or hack around with your Wordpress templates so that they use user_login. Template call get_the_author_login() is perfect for authors, but for comment references I had to use get_usermeta($user_id,'user_login') or comment_author_link() where $user_id was 0. Messy. Since the admin side of Wordpress uses display_name anyway, it is probably a lot easier to populate that column. 8. Your Wordpress install should be now more-or-less working. Let's return to the forum! 9. It is very easy to accidentally destroy the forum Keymaster, locking yourself out of the forum before integration is complete. If this happens, edit the table bb_topicmeta by deleting the final few lines with meta_key starting "wp_". 10. On the forum admin, under WordPress Integration: Set the User role map such that Admin links to Keymaster and everyone else is a subscriber, and save. Add "wp_" under User database table prefix and save. Hit the User role map button again. Finally complete the cookie setting and save. The order is important - simply filling in all the boxes and saving can wipe out the old Keymaster access before the new one has been set up. 11. In Wordpress, check the user list. I found that some user types did not convert automatically - notably moderators. Hopefully 99% of users will have been automatically assigned as subscribers. If you use a lot of plugins, take care that nothing conflicts. For example two separate plugins trying to write user meta data using the same key name. You may also wish to test a dummy registration and profile change. 12. Remove the old bb_users and bb_usermeta, and the copies of your original wp_users and wp_usermeta. 13. Remove the .htaccess blocks, and celebrate your newly integrated setup. I'm now having fun trying to marry a second forum to the first Wordpress-Forum pair. Everything is easy, until one tries to alter the admin permissions... _ck_ on "PRIORITY #1: Image\File Attachments" http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/priority-1-imagefile-attachments#post-15561 Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:17:00 +0000 _ck_ 15561@http://bbpress.org/forums/ An early beta is now available for review: <a href="http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/bb-attachments/" rel="nofollow">http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/bb-attachments/</a> gregory.dziedzic on "PRIORITY #1: Image\File Attachments" http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/priority-1-imagefile-attachments#post-15516 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:37:11 +0000 gregory.dziedzic 15516@http://bbpress.org/forums/ Sorry to bump this thread again... Sambauer, my post was not directed to you and I respect a lot what you are doing and your attitude on the forum. It's the "then go for a wiki" remark that made me react. I'm very happy and thankful that _ck_ got down to the writing of this plugin. Keep on the good works, it's a great soft you're all working on :) sambauers on "PRIORITY #1: Image\File Attachments" http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/priority-1-imagefile-attachments#post-15503 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:32:03 +0000 sambauers 15503@http://bbpress.org/forums/ I'm sure that many people have fine justifications for wanting file attachments. It just seems to be coincidence that those people aren't the ones capable of writing it. No one is telling anyone that their need for it is "wrong". Can I suggest that those who want it somehow co-ordinate their efforts and - rather than pointlessly bumping threads like this all the time - you all work out how you can get it happening in a constructive fashion. There are many competent plugin developers around, perhaps you can pool financial resources and hire one to write the plugin. Perhaps if you are in a University you can co-opt a student with the necessary skills to write the plugin for you in exchange for credit. I'm sure that together you work out a creative solution to your problem. I would love to see this happen, but I don't think it will be me who writes it. Dealing with file uploads in web apps is hard and boring for me. I spent about 5 years of my life doing it, so whilst I am probably well qualified to take it on, I don't *want* to right now. It's not about some geek elitism. Clearly my want is greater than your collective powers of persuasion at this time. <a href="http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/proposed-method-for-file-attachments-and-uploads">charlesstout's topic on this issue</a> has a much more positive spin to it, and you'll notice that _ck_ has jumped in to get something rolling (which is lucky for you guys, she knows what she's doing). I suggest that if _ck_ gets this happening you all go and <a href="http://bbshowcase.org/forums/">drop some money in her donation account</a> or at least send her a card. charliestout on "PRIORITY #1: Image\File Attachments" http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/priority-1-imagefile-attachments#post-15486 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:40:54 +0000 charliestout 15486@http://bbpress.org/forums/ I started a conversation about this very topic here: <a href="http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/proposed-method-for-file-attachments-and-uploads" rel="nofollow">http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/proposed-method-for-file-attachments-and-uploads</a> I believe in both sides of this argument: 1. Keep bbPress clean. Don't bloat. 2. Make bbPress extendible. Do create plugins for everything. That said, I'm all in favor of an image/attachment plugin. Definitely. To argue that there is not great desire for this simply because it has not been written is like trying to say "living on the moon sucks" just because we haven't figured out a way to do it yet. I'm sure living on the moon would totally rule ass. gregory.dziedzic on "PRIORITY #1: Image\File Attachments" http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/priority-1-imagefile-attachments#post-15485 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:20:01 +0000 gregory.dziedzic 15485@http://bbpress.org/forums/ Maybe it's because I'm not so knowledgeable about wikis, but I really wonder what you are talking about. I totally agree concerning the "simple, fast and elegant". phpBB is far too complicated for example. But gimme a break please. I don't need to be told what I need. Wordpress is great for news publication, it's understandable by my not so computer literate community and it even allows to attach documents to posts (albeit not to comments). Now I'm thinking about phase 2, which is the integration of a forum to the blog and the duplication of Wordpress posts in a dedicated sub-forum through the bbPost plugin. These guys are scientists who need to communicate AND exchange documents. bbPress appeals to me because of the Wordpress integration, BUT I need it to have attachment as a feature. And I don't have the skills to add this feature. I don't intend to be demanding. I have an idea what open source development can be. I just don't want some geek zealot to tell me that my need is wrong just because it breaks his ideal of how his software idol should be... chrishajer on "PRIORITY #1: Image\File Attachments" http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/priority-1-imagefile-attachments#post-15429 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:45:03 +0000 chrishajer 15429@http://bbpress.org/forums/ Exchange of documents: use a wiki. gregory.dziedzic on "PRIORITY #1: Image\File Attachments" http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/priority-1-imagefile-attachments#post-15422 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:51:17 +0000 gregory.dziedzic 15422@http://bbpress.org/forums/ I need plugin too. Trying to switch from a mailing list based scientific community to a proper forum. Exchange of documents is a must. Lookfab on "Integration = ? How to do it?" http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/integration-how-to-do-it#post-15355 Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:05:15 +0000 Lookfab 15355@http://bbpress.org/forums/ I have spent the last couple of hours on the forums trying to figure out how to actually do this when the existing blog and forum are currently seperate databases. My situation is as follows: - wordpress 2.3 blog with no users (except admin) - bbpress 0.8 forum with many users I want to get to a wordpress 2.5 blog and a bbpress 0.9 forum with an integrated database. I think the steps are: 1. upgrade wordpress to 2.5 2. upgrade bbpress to 0.9 3. then?.... how do I combine the database? Or can I keep the seperate databases and still get the benefits of combined cookies and users carried from wp to bb and vice versa? If so, how do I bootstrap the wp database with the existing bb users? Any help out there? Beer on "PRIORITY #1: Image\File Attachments" http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/priority-1-imagefile-attachments#post-15327 Sun, 13 Apr 2008 07:08:55 +0000 Beer 15327@http://bbpress.org/forums/ Attachments would be nice as a plugin, or a plugin to hook into something like imageshack, putfile, flickr, etc.. for users to attach+post the link. Sailorman on "PRIORITY #1: Image\File Attachments" http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/priority-1-imagefile-attachments#post-15326 Sun, 13 Apr 2008 06:24:22 +0000 Sailorman 15326@http://bbpress.org/forums/ Yes yes yes. We need this! woodsnwind on "PRIORITY #1: Image\File Attachments" http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/priority-1-imagefile-attachments#post-15318 Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:34:38 +0000 woodsnwind 15318@http://bbpress.org/forums/ yes, please, file attachment is valuable for my implementation. I'll take it as a plugin or hardwired. :) joeyv on "PRIORITY #1: Image\File Attachments" http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/priority-1-imagefile-attachments#post-15286 Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:25:45 +0000 joeyv 15286@http://bbpress.org/forums/ I love the simplicity of bbpress, but my needs require file attachment. If I had the knowledge, I would write a plug-in, but I don't, so I can't. sambauers on "PRIORITY #1: Image\File Attachments" http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/priority-1-imagefile-attachments#post-15182 Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:16:16 +0000 sambauers 15182@http://bbpress.org/forums/ If someone writes a plugin, and that plugin is popular enough, we might add it to core. But it would have to have a bazillion downloads or something. The fact that nobody has written the plugin yet is telling though. _ck_ on "PRIORITY #1: Image\File Attachments" http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/priority-1-imagefile-attachments#post-15176 Wed, 09 Apr 2008 02:39:59 +0000 _ck_ 15176@http://bbpress.org/forums/ This "argument" is silly. It would take a person reasonably knowledgeable about wordpress/bbpress internals only a few days to write an attachment plugin. It's just that no-one has the need/desire (including myself) so it's never been a priority. bbPress has everything needed to make this fairly easy. If I get bored and have some time this month I might look at the issue. But attachments are very straightforward. They would be similar to the "avatar upload" plugin but the files would be tied to posts instead the user. Since there is no post metadata, the topic or user meta would have to be used instead (I recommend usermeta since posts one day could be moved around to other topics via a moderation plugin like move-it). Attachments open big security issues which is another reason why I have not been in any hurry to make such a plugin - I simply don't want the responsibility. I was also hoping that by now there would be other plugin developers around to make some of these things. With 0.9 being so solid, perhaps it won't be long before there are more to tackle these requests. erdenozkan on "PRIORITY #1: Image\File Attachments" http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/priority-1-imagefile-attachments#post-15175 Wed, 09 Apr 2008 01:05:15 +0000 erdenozkan 15175@http://bbpress.org/forums/ Let's say "A good image upload plugin is needed". I agree with that. A good image upload system is a must for some communities and not for some. There's no need to discuss why some users need image uploading and some not. I'll be migrating a very large community to bbpress in a few months. The only reason for us to migrate to bbpress is its code base; it's extendable and very easy to use. So we will write custom plugins to our specific needs. Yes, bbpress needs a very good image uploading plugin just like worpdress's akismet plugin; developed seperately as a plugin. There are some good bbpress plugin developers over here, so what we need to do is just to donate some money. This kind of plugin will take bbpress one more step ahead. hudey123 on "PRIORITY #1: Image\File Attachments" http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/priority-1-imagefile-attachments#post-15171 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:26:57 +0000 hudey123 15171@http://bbpress.org/forums/ I disagree. The reason I'm going with BBPress is because I like the clean and simple look. I don't want users to post images and turn the forum into a graffiti wall, and I don't want BBPress to be loaded up with the ability to post pictures when I'm not going to use it. Keep it in a plugin and let me install it if I decide that I want to install it. timskii on "PRIORITY #1: Image\File Attachments" http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/priority-1-imagefile-attachments#post-15170 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:17:58 +0000 timskii 15170@http://bbpress.org/forums/ What you are probably looking for is Flickr-in-a-box as a separate application with a common user database. Just as I'm looking for a Facebook-in-a-box application to run alongside the forum to foster the more personal social side. I don't believe these should be core parts of the forum software, but there is a need for them somehow. This notion of modular is important, because it is easy to get side-tracked and try and build the entire internet into one application. That might ultimately happen (mirroring the history of the Microsoft platform model), but at this stage of the game, nobody has the resources to do everything, so doing one part of the jigsaw well is the best plan. BBPress should focus development on its core, which still has weaknesses. IMHO the most urgent is augmentation of futuristic geek-only features with the traditional ones that most users understand. The need for these functions has been acknowledged in BBPress's design, however the current implementation is lacking because they are too complex for "normal people". So RSS needs to be mirrored with bespoke email notifications, because the only people that "get" RSS are 'bloggers. Gravatars need to be mirrored with uploadable avatars, because the only people that get Gravatars are 'bloggers. Ok, I generalise on the "bloggers" part. But I know moderately technical people that can't manage to set up a Gravatar, and have no idea what to do with an RSS feed. So the clueless masses stand no chance of using these features for the purpose they were designed. BBPress's killer feature at the moment is spam control without forcing users to jump through hoops just to register and post. Easy to work with code, and general lack of bloat are good to. But take a look at <a href="http://www.worldofroguecraft.com/forums/">this</a>, and tell me the #1 feature requirement of forum software (and if anyone can point to why that's affecting phpBB 2 sites more than other software, I'm curious). That's literally hundreds of spam posts an hour. Most admins faced with that kind of nightmare won't be too worried about forcing users to host files elsewhere. chrishajer on "PRIORITY #1: Image\File Attachments" http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/priority-1-imagefile-attachments#post-15164 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:15:34 +0000 chrishajer 15164@http://bbpress.org/forums/ I disagree. Post your image elsewhere and then use the "Allow images" plugin. Don't dump them on my server. I don't have a need for images in my forum. Maybe we use bbPress for different things, which is what makes it great. Customize if for the functionality you need, nothing more. bensig on "PRIORITY #1: Image\File Attachments" http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/priority-1-imagefile-attachments#post-15161 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 18:54:05 +0000 bensig 15161@http://bbpress.org/forums/ To be considered a major player in the forum world, it is necessary to have at least some option for attaching files to posts. Personally, I was actually shocked to learn that this was not a feature until I installed it to test it out. bbpress is listed up there with the most popular free forum software: phpbb, yaf, smf, vanilla. But it is the ONLY one which LACKS the ability to attach a file. I hope that this issue is addressed before the 1.0 release, I think it should be the FIRST priority for a new feature. IF YOU AGREE - Please respond to this post to let the developers know that this is a feature you are looking for in a forum and whether you think it should be intrinsic (like almost every other forum) and not a plug-in. chrishajer on "Integration = ? How to do it?" http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/integration-how-to-do-it#post-14348 Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:26:44 +0000 chrishajer 14348@http://bbpress.org/forums/ 1. Good. The easiest way is if the installations are like this: <a href="http://chickspeak.com/" rel="nofollow">http://chickspeak.com/</a> (which is actually WordPress) <a href="http://chickspeak.com/bbpress/" rel="nofollow">http://chickspeak.com/bbpress/</a> (the bbPress installation is in a subfolder of your WordPress folder.) 2. <a href="http://bbpress.org/forums/search.php?q=integration">Search this forum for integration</a> or <a href="http://bbpress.org/forums/tags/integration">view topics tagged integration</a>. Here's a good one: <a href="http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/seemless-wordpress-integration" rel="nofollow">http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/seemless-wordpress-integration</a> 3. Maybe bbSync <a href="http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/bbsync/" rel="nofollow">http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/bbsync/</a> ironbound on "Integration = ? How to do it?" http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/integration-how-to-do-it#post-14347 Sat, 08 Mar 2008 06:13:34 +0000 ironbound 14347@http://bbpress.org/forums/ 1. I have a wordpress blog and a bbpress forum. Independent of eachother (different directories). 2. How do I integrate the two? By integrate I mean: Have bbpress be a page within the blog. (chickspeak.com style) 3. It would be cool to integrate the blog comments into forum posts too but lets just work and word this out one at a time. Thank you in advance for clearing this up.